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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by nealric » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:39 am

That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by Ajren Robben » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:00 am

nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by dixiecupdrinking » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:04 pm

Tanicius wrote:
Pleasye wrote:Good luck getting Watson to write all your loser motions, partners.

"ERROR. Error 767: the law does not support your argument. Please choose another argument."
What's gonna be really funny is if the trial-level litigation starts going through algorithmic trial court robots, and the appellate lawyers and judges are the only human beings left, and they have to police the trial system to make sure it's making actual sense. It would be a lot of fun watching judges scratching their heads over Watson's take-no-prisoners approach to legal logic.

It could honestly be an interesting exercise if the software was perfected enough. The dirty secret everyone knows is that the higher courts aren't really "clarifying" legal splits or logical discrepancies; rather, they are inputting their human understanding for how a policy should work, to the extent they can justify it with plausible deniability from existing case law. If the courts ever end up accepting software, the higher courts would be overturning its findings left and right to prevent a shit-storm of totally unintended but probably accurate legal conclusions drawn from terribly written human law.
The only solution is Congress Watson.

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by PMan99 » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:25 pm

nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Partners aren't going to be billing out Law Watson at 400 an hour to do doc review.

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by fats provolone » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:40 pm

Law Watsons conflicts checks are gonna be brutal

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by nealric » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:55 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
PMan99 wrote:
nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Partners aren't going to be billing out Law Watson at 400 an hour to do doc review.
They bill out turds making 20 bucks an hour at 200. I wouldn't be so sure of that.
They might try, but we already tell firms we won't pay for associate time in a lot of cases. We won't be paying for Law Watson queries when we have our own subscription to the service.

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by fats provolone » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:14 pm

does law watson have malpractice insurance?

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by anyriotgirl » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:48 pm

nealric wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
PMan99 wrote:
nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Partners aren't going to be billing out Law Watson at 400 an hour to do doc review.
They bill out turds making 20 bucks an hour at 200. I wouldn't be so sure of that.
They might try, but we already tell firms we won't pay for associate time in a lot of cases. We won't be paying for Law Watson queries when we have our own subscription to the service.
I don't understand what client wants to look at a bill and see only expensive partner time. Sure, push to write off first years, but midlevels?

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by rnoodles » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:59 pm

man, this is some haley joel osment shit. not liking it.

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by lacrossebrother » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:11 pm

nealric wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
PMan99 wrote:
nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Partners aren't going to be billing out Law Watson at 400 an hour to do doc review.
They bill out turds making 20 bucks an hour at 200. I wouldn't be so sure of that.
They might try, but we already tell firms we won't pay for associate time in a lot of cases. We won't be paying for Law Watson queries when we have our own subscription to the service.
Do you find that you inexplicably get dropped more often than you would anticipate?

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by nealric » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:40 am

anyriotgirl wrote:
nealric wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
PMan99 wrote:
nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Partners aren't going to be billing out Law Watson at 400 an hour to do doc review.
They bill out turds making 20 bucks an hour at 200. I wouldn't be so sure of that.
They might try, but we already tell firms we won't pay for associate time in a lot of cases. We won't be paying for Law Watson queries when we have our own subscription to the service.
I don't understand what client wants to look at a bill and see only expensive partner time. Sure, push to write off first years, but midlevels?
It depends on what we are doing. More and more, in-house departments are doing grunt work in-house and only going outside the company for things we don't have the expertise to handle ourselves. We don't need associate workhorses, we need experts.

If there's a massive doc review to contend with, there is often no choice but to use lots of associate time. But more often, we just need a specific question answered, or someone to look over something we have already done. What we really don't want to see is a partner assigning some midlevel associate billing $600 an hour to spend 20 hours to write up a memo explaining what the partner could have told us over the phone off the top of her head in a 30 minute call.
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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by nealric » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:42 am

lacrossebrother wrote:
nealric wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
PMan99 wrote:
nealric wrote:That's OK, I'm planning on replacing the partners I hire with law watson :mrgreen:
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Partners aren't going to be billing out Law Watson at 400 an hour to do doc review.
They bill out turds making 20 bucks an hour at 200. I wouldn't be so sure of that.
They might try, but we already tell firms we won't pay for associate time in a lot of cases. We won't be paying for Law Watson queries when we have our own subscription to the service.
Do you find that you inexplicably get dropped more often than you would anticipate?
We tend to use outside counsel that gets with the program pretty quick. Billing expectations are set on the front end, so there's no reason to drop us as a client based on them. Firms are not obligated to take any engagement and they let us know if a billing arrangement won't work for them. I should also clarify that we rarely say "no associate time ever", but take strategies to limit its use.

I'm sure Cravath or Wachtell won't pay ball with a client dictating associate use, but 99% of corporate business doesn't necessitate using that type of firm. If we were merging with another company or facing an incident that could result in the destruction of the company, the calculus would be completely different and cost would be no object. But for day-to-day matters, the V20-100 type firms and boutiques we usually use are generally willing to work with us. There's a lot of competition out there.

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:35 am

Would Law Watson be useful to current JD students?

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Re: Your Partner is Planning to Replace You, With Law Watson

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Anonymous User wrote:Would Law Watson be useful to current JD students?
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