V10 Associates - Dispel myths about your firm Forum

[sephrenia300]

Here is a myth I'd like addressed. Both Skadden and Kirkland have been accused of literally working several associates to death (via heart attacks at very young ages or suicide). Can someone address this.

This is my first time hearing about a Kirkland associate death... When did this happen? Google isn't coming up with anything either.

2009
http://www.anitaslove.com/about/

edits sorry

Holy shit that really is her in the video too... I've laughed at that video so many times, this just got really dark.

And I think I heard about the suicide now that I think about it... tragic.

Dude, guys. Do even like a modicum of research before posting this shit.

Just clicking one tab on that SAME WEBSITE will tell you she died of an unfortunate pregnancy complication...

AFTER leaving Kirkland to go to Holland and Knight Atlanta...

AND THEN starting her own firm.

Get yo facts straight.

[PourMeTea]

[Anonymous User]

Now explain the guy who killed himself rather than face another day K&E.

[Cobretti]

Good eye sephrenia

Now explain the guy who killed himself rather than face another day K&E.

Suicide is tragic no matter what the cause, but we really can't say his job was why he did it. Its much more likely that he had severe depression for years.

[Anonymous User]

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/06/in-re-th ... associate/

how about this one?

[Desert Fox]

[sephrenia300]

Good eye sephrenia

Now explain the guy who killed himself rather than face another day K&E.

Suicide is tragic no matter what the cause, but we really can't say his job was why he did it. Its much more likely that he had severe depression for years.

I agree with Cobretti - I wouldn't want to speculate on this. But medically speaking, suicidal ideation is very...internal and only occasionally has any correlation with external circumstances.

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/06/in-re-th ... associate/

how about this one?

This one is absolutely harder to explain away. Absent any congenital defect that would almost assuredly be discovered in the autopsy, it's hard NOT to conclude that she was worked to death :/

*edited fo typo

[Cogburn87]

Suicide is tragic no matter what the cause, but we really can't say his job was why he did it. Its much more likely that he had severe depression for years.

That's the spirit. You're going to love it at K&E, bro.

[052220152]

Here is a myth I'd like addressed. Both Skadden and Kirkland have been accused of literally working several associates to death (via heart attacks at very young ages or suicide). Can someone address this.

I think Kirkland actually used the associate they worked until her heart gave out in a promotional video about how the culture really promoted work-life balance.

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fuck. i just came here to post this

[Anonymous User]

As a Skadden NY associate, I actually get the impression that we bill less hours than most peer firms. The average billable hours is ~1800 per year. There are still people who bill 2500 hours, but so long as you avoid certain busy practice groups, you can have pretty good hours here.

[DJ JD]

I think the fact that you even have to argue whether or not a firm worked someone to death is a problem in and of itself.

[Cobretti]

Suicide is tragic no matter what the cause, but we really can't say his job was why he did it. Its much more likely that he had severe depression for years.

That's the spirit. You're going to love it at K&E, bro.

whoosh

The point is pointing the finger at anything like that after someone commits suicide is marginalizing the seriousness of mental illness.

[Cogburn87]

The point is pointing the finger at anything like that after someone commits suicide is marginalizing the seriousness of mental illness.

Recognizing the possibility that work-related anxiety could have contributed to someone's decision to commit suicide isn't "marginalizing the seriousness of mental illness," you dullard.

[052220152]

Way to stomp on the comedy dudes

[anyriotgirl]

does kirkland really give a bump to former gymnasts?

[Desert Fox]

[rpupkin]

Way to stomp on the comedy dudes

I like to make fun of the big law environment as much as anyone, but maybe y'all should consider that the suicide of an actual person is not a good comedy vehicle.

[rpupkin]

As a Skadden NY associate, I actually get the impression that we bill less hours than most peer firms. The average billable hours is ~1800 per year. There are still people who bill 2500 hours, but so long as you avoid certain busy practice groups, you can have pretty good hours here.

(gets "the talk" in the middle of year 3)

[052220152]

Way to stomp on the comedy dudes

I like to make fun of the big law environment as much as anyone, but maybe y'all should consider that the suicide of an actual person is not a good comedy vehicle.

Maybe you're a dummy. they stomped the comedy by autisiming out on the suicide.

[gk101]

As a Skadden NY associate, I actually get the impression that we bill less hours than most peer firms. The average billable hours is ~1800 per year. There are still people who bill 2500 hours, but so long as you avoid certain busy practice groups, you can have pretty good hours here.

lol that average ~1800 hours is usually a made up number which includes people doing part-time, people taking significant time off for maternity etc. I wouldn't take much comfort in that average number

[Dr. Filth]

Here is a myth I'd like addressed. Both Skadden and Kirkland have been accused of literally working several associates to death (via heart attacks at very young ages or suicide). Can someone address this.

This is my first time hearing about a Kirkland associate death... When did this happen? Google isn't coming up with anything either.

2009
http://www.anitaslove.com/about/

edits sorry

Holy shit that really is her in the video too... I've laughed at that video so many times, this just got really dark.

And I think I heard about the suicide now that I think about it... tragic.

NU sent out an email during OCI last year about the suicide.