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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anon that is boned here. What is unfortunate is that I was a top 10 student at my previous school. I wasn't on scholarship so I decided to move to GW to have better access to oci, stronger alumni, etc. I was convinced by career services at GW explaining how someone like me who was a top 10 student elsewhere would have all these great opportunities at GW and oci would go fantastic, etc. I guess it just isn't true. Now instead of taking the scholarship from my old school to stay, I am in the same debt with even worse career outlooks. This f*^&ing sucks.

Edit: Also previous school's GPA was above a 3.75. Just for reference.
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Cheer up! I hope you'll stay positive, and I'm sorry if my previous post added to your anxiety. It's still early in the recruiting season, so don't count yourself out until you've hustled yourself to exhaustion this fall. You need to do what most lower-tier law students targeting biglaw do: work your connections and chase down every lead like it's your only one. Also, regardless of how OCI comes out for you, please know that having GW on your resume will be a lifelong benefit over your old school, even if it doesn't feel like it now. For example, my firm is currently recruiting for a junior lateral associate, and we are completely willing to look at candidates with relevant experience from non-biglaw firms--but we still look very closely at where a candidate went to law school.

Plus, never forget: biglaw isn't everything, and your ability to get into biglaw shouldn't dictate your view of whether transferring was worthwhile or not. Some of my classmates who struck out at OCI are now ecstatic about where they work and can't imagine being an associate at a biglaw firm.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:17 pm

not trying to be a jerk, but is it possible that our GPA this year is a little inflated...? I talked to a few folks and it seems like some GPA range is not doing as good as previous years... Also a couple of us were surprised about the journal placement. It may not help that much at this point, but it's always good to know where we are standing in our class.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:not trying to be a jerk, but is it possible that our GPA this year is a little inflated...? I talked to a few folks and it seems like some GPA range is not doing as good as previous years... Also a couple of us were surprised about the journal placement. It may not help that much at this point, but it's always good to know where we are standing in our class.
Hmmm, that is surprising to hear, just because I had the opposite feeling. I didn't think my GPA (3.7_) was that great (I knew top 15%, but I thought it was on the low end) but then I was pleasantly surprised by being selected for Law Review. Then for OCI I definitely performed better than I imagined, with >20 interviews, with several of the firms I bid as long shots throwing me an interview. (K-JD).

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:04 pm

Any ideas about what the cut off for GW scholar were this year for 1Ls?

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:55 pm

I made it with a 3.64- no idea if it went lower or not- heard roughly 3.61 is cutoff.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:19 pm

..umm interesting. I definitely know people with 3.8+ but not on law review, but probably because of the write-on competition. Anyway, thanks for the info!

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:15 pm

Does anyone know if there will be hospitality suites at the Philadelphia (tomorrow) and New York (Friday) regional OCI?

Also, has anyone had any luck getting alternate spots?

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:59 pm

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know if there will be hospitality suites at the Philadelphia (tomorrow) and New York (Friday) regional OCI?

Also, has anyone had any luck getting alternate spots?
Not sure about hospitality suits, but I had a lot of luck picking up alternate spots. I was primed up and ready to go at 9pm, hoping to snag just 1 (or maybe 2) of the alternate spots I was selected for, but I was easily able to snag every one I wanted, and change the times back and forth as I tried to figure out the best schedule.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:31 pm

How do we normally find out which firms have hospitality suites? Also, what would be the best strategy in terms of visiting the ones that do have them? I was planning on stopping by after my respective interviews and expressing my interest, etc. But what if a firm I'm not interviewing with has one? Do I take my materials with me and just say I'd like to interview if there's a spot? I guess mornings are the best time to do that? It all seems very awkward to me.

Also thank you to the V50 interviewer who's answering questions!

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:09 pm

Good luck everyone participating in the New York regional program tomorrow. Since OCI officially started today, make sure to post if you get callbacks (and dings of course).

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How do we normally find out which firms have hospitality suites? Also, what would be the best strategy in terms of visiting the ones that do have them? I was planning on stopping by after my respective interviews and expressing my interest, etc. But what if a firm I'm not interviewing with has one? Do I take my materials with me and just say I'd like to interview if there's a spot? I guess mornings are the best time to do that? It all seems very awkward to me.

Also thank you to the V50 interviewer who's answering questions!
V50 interviewer here. You're welcome.

Unless GW has changed its procedures, you won't know about hospitality suites until you show up at OCI (current students are welcome to correct me). Yes, you should bring a stack of extra resumes with you and go to the suites for firms that (1) you didn't bid on or (2) got an alternate position from. You're wasting time going to suites for firms that rejected your bid or that you're already interviewing with (as the interview will dictate whether you get a callback or not--your small talk in the suite won't make a difference). Just go in, introduce yourself, say you're interested in the firm, and hand over a resume. Sure, it might feel awkward, but that's what hospitality suites are there for, and remember: you have nothing to lose!

While we're on the subject, another pro tip: to convert alternates to interviews, go to the firm's room in the morning before the interview schedule begins. Politely introduce yourself, say you're an alternate, and ask if there are any open interview spots during the day. This works more often than you'd expect. Have a resume ready because the interviewer won't have one. You might get shut down, but again, you've got nothing to lose as long as you're polite.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:22 pm

When should we expect callbacks in the NY Regional program?

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:09 pm

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:03 pm

I got a few callbacks today and yesterday, which I thought was pretty fast turn around (though I know NYC is notorious for this). Do you think all the callbacks have been given, or do you think any firms wait until Monday?

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:20 pm

I don't know, I think by Wednesday it probably is a good time to call for an end. Would you mind listing the names of the firms? Thanks! So far, I heard people got callbacks from Davis Polk, Kirkland, Allen & Oveny, Paul Hastings, Paul Weiss, Ropes and Gray, Hogan Lovells. Any more? Also, anyone who interviewed with Paul Weiss in the afternoon got a callback? This really helps A LOT if anyone can provide any info.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:29 am

If you are not getting a call back, will you get an email saying so or will there just be silence?

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Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:39 am

They usually will mail you, and you should receive the mail in about a week or less. Some firms do email, and will be quicker than mail.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:I don't know, I think by Wednesday it probably is a good time to call for an end. Would you mind listing the names of the firms? Thanks! So far, I heard people got callbacks from Davis Polk, Kirkland, Allen & Oveny, Paul Hastings, Paul Weiss, Ropes and Gray, Hogan Lovells. Any more? Also, anyone who interviewed with Paul Weiss in the afternoon got a callback? This really helps A LOT if anyone can provide any info.
Anon you are responding to, sorry for the delay. All my callbacks are from firms on that list!
Anonymous User wrote:They usually will mail you, and you should receive the mail in about a week or less. Some firms do email, and will be quicker than mail.
WOW! Is this for real? Everyone I had called me. Glad to know to check the mailbox just in case though, thanks.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:56 am

If they give you callbacks, 99% they will call you, but there is a rare possibility that they will email you. But if it's a ding, it's usually mail and very fast. At least in the NY market, this is the norm.

Also about Paul Weiss, if you or other people have callbacks, are all the callbacks from AM interviews? Just wondering since all the Paul Weiss callbacks I heard are from the AM so just try to give myself some hope...

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:26 pm

Any movement today from the NY regional? Getting antsy over here.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:33 pm

I heard Proskauer sent out callbacks today. Any other firms?

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:13 pm

White and Case call back today.

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Re: GW OCI 2015 (c/o 2017)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:20 pm

also heard about Cleary, Simpson, Fried Frank, Dechert today.

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