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baal hadad · Post by **baal hadad** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:33 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
baal hadad wrote:Wat do you do when you're not at work
Drinking and/or video games

Oh troo what vidya you got goin on these days

How stoked are u for fallout 4

xael · Post by **xael** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:34 pm

why didn't you become an engineer

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:36 pm

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xael · Post by **xael** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:37 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
xael wrote:why didn't you become an engineer
A mix of:

me fucking up my engineering career by getting a 2.8 and specializing in construction stuff right when the construction market tanked. Though I could have made it work. I get offers for interview TODAY based on my old resume like 6 years ago

wanting make more money.

suuuuch a bad choice.

is this because you dislike law or because of debt?

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:38 pm

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:40 pm

baal hadad · Post by **baal hadad** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:43 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
baal hadad wrote:Wat do you do when you're not at work
Drinking and/or video games
Oh troo what vidya you got goin on these days

How stoked are u for fallout 4
my wife found out about batman arkham games so we are playing those. I've never played fallout, but I've recently gotten into RPGs (I used to be all FPS and RTS). So I got a copy of fall out 3 on my pc.

F3 is pretty solid if you've never played a fallout game before so that's solid

It's a pain in the ass to set aside time to really get into it though

Turn based strategy fits in way better w the sched

First Offense · Post by **First Offense** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:45 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
xael wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
xael wrote:why didn't you become an engineer
A mix of:

me fucking up my engineering career by getting a 2.8 and specializing in construction stuff right when the construction market tanked. Though I could have made it work. I get offers for interview TODAY based on my old resume like 6 years ago

wanting make more money.

suuuuch a bad choice.
is this because you dislike law or because of debt?
both. Law is too many hours, but I like the firm I'm at. But I don't see a great future. Ironically one of the reasons I convinced myself law was better was because engineer careers stall out at 40 years old. But LOL at me lasting in law til then.

But the debt totally fucks the making money part of law. Sure. I'll make 195k this year. But I live in a suburban 1 bed apartment and have a massively negative networth.

What suburb.

SplitMyPants · Post by **SplitMyPants** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:46 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Ironically one of the reasons I convinced myself law was better was because engineer careers stall out at 40 years old. But LOL at me lasting in law til then.

But even after exiting, don't you think you'll have better options than with just engineering and stalling at 40? The alternative would be MBA --> middle management, I guess...

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:48 pm

kcdc1 · Post by **kcdc1** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:15 pm

Want to grab lunch sometime?

Aureusmons · Post by **Aureusmons** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:16 pm

Do you see yourself switching firms in the near future

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:20 pm

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:21 pm

Johann · Post by **Johann** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:42 pm

you talk about your firm being pretty cool. do you think the V30-V50 is the sweet spot? Seems like a decent spot wit reputable firms that aren't striving to be the best.

First Offense · Post by **First Offense** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:52 pm

Desert Fox wrote:One of the ones that's closer, safer, richer, and more cultured than 80% of DC but still gets shit on from hipsters who totes feels safe in NOMA even after someone got skullfucked in their own high rise apartment building by marauding public housing folks.

We might be neighbors.

star fox · Post by **star fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:35 pm

How's your debt doing?

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:04 pm

orangered · Post by **orangered** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:47 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Ironically one of the reasons I convinced myself law was better was because engineer careers stall out at 40 years old.

Heh, this is almost exactly the reason I'm going to law school in the fall. Hope I don't regret it in a few years!

orangered · Post by **orangered** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:53 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Aureusmons wrote:Do you see yourself switching firms in the near future
No, I'm pretty sure I'm working at a group that is about as good as biglaw gets. And it was pretty much total random luck. I only want to leave to transition to a smaller firm since LOL nobody makes partner anymore.

How about inhouse? Not sure how common that is in DC but here in SV that is the path of choice for patent associates who get sick of the biglaw life. I gotta say those tech company perks are pretty sweet.

hurldes · Post by **hurldes** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:56 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
xael wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
xael wrote:why didn't you become an engineer
A mix of:

me fucking up my engineering career by getting a 2.8 and specializing in construction stuff right when the construction market tanked. Though I could have made it work. I get offers for interview TODAY based on my old resume like 6 years ago

wanting make more money.

suuuuch a bad choice.
is this because you dislike law or because of debt?
both. Law is too many hours, but I like the firm I'm at. But I don't see a great future. Ironically one of the reasons I convinced myself law was better was because engineer careers stall out at 40 years old. But LOL at me lasting in law til then.

But the debt totally fucks the making money part of law. Sure. I'll make 195k this year. But I live in a suburban 1 bed apartment and have a massively negative networth.

Wow this describes me exactly.

collegebum1989 · Post by **collegebum1989** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:04 pm

orangered wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Aureusmons wrote:Do you see yourself switching firms in the near future
No, I'm pretty sure I'm working at a group that is about as good as biglaw gets. And it was pretty much total random luck. I only want to leave to transition to a smaller firm since LOL nobody makes partner anymore.
How about inhouse? Not sure how common that is in DC but here in SV that is the path of choice for patent associates who get sick of the biglaw life. I gotta say those tech company perks are pretty sweet.

Getting in-house from lit-only practice is difficult unless you have some prosecution experience (e.g., 2-3 years).

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:24 pm

Im considering taking the patent bar and doing my pro bono doing prosecution instead of immigration.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:51 pm

It's not that simple.

A lot of Biglaw firms don't do prosecution because it's not high margin work, and even if they do, they'd rather have the Patent Agents that have significantly lower billing rates do the drafting to meet budgets.

Finally, prosecution arguably has a high learning curve to become efficient and profitable. As a first year in Biglaw, you're already too expensive to figure out how to do it properly without prior experience.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:57 pm

Challenge - find a senior associate you work with whose address you know or who is going on a business trip where you know their hotel/room.

Get an escort to come out to said location. Have her (or him!) say that "[partner you work under] says to have a good time."

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