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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by smaug » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:41 pm

maybe you should substantively explain Trump's policies and how they'll work and you'll convince the dullards ITT

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by libertttarian » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Can someone explain what is so bad about supporting Trump versus, say, Bush, though? Other than resorting to calling him a "clown"?
How about Trump's complete lack of legislative experience and total unfamiliarity with national or even state politics? Or the fact that if he's shown us anything, it's that he's divisive, sees the world in black and white, and in all likelihood would be a net negative asset in our already contentious federal government?

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by kaiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?

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Post by sephrenia300 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
Well I was always taught never to argue with a fool or a drunk. Pretty sure other people ITT have taken this to heart as well.

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by kaiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:47 pm

libertttarian wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can someone explain what is so bad about supporting Trump versus, say, Bush, though? Other than resorting to calling him a "clown"?
How about Trump's complete lack of legislative experience and total unfamiliarity with national or even state politics? Or the fact that if he's shown us anything, it's that he's divisive, sees the world in black and white, and in all likelihood would be a net negative asset in our already contentious federal government?
Lets not forget complete unfamiliarity with issues of national security. He proposed recently bombing all Iraqi oil fields as a way of combatting ISIS. This proposal was swiftly condemned by military analysts as misguided, and lacking in understanding of the effects these kinds of moves have. Of course, you can't fault him on this. He is a businessman who doesn't actually know about issues of national security and foreign policy, much like any other layman.

And as someone linked to earlier, lets not forget the whole birther side-show where the Donald was wasting time and trying to gain attention by scraping the very bottom of the barrel.

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:48 pm

kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by encore1101 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:49 pm

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smaug wrote:this flame has potential

op please describe your life in trump's america

thx
- not losing my job to an america-hating immigrant who I have to train to be my replacement

Yeah, all those illegal aliens with JDs licensed to practice hopping the fence, man

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Post by pink_freud257 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
...Are you suggesting that deportation of 11+ million people is a viable option?

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by kaiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
A proposal whose price tag puts it in fantasy-land isn't a proposal worth talking about. If we are going there, might as well make a laser forcefield, or the wall from Lost where the smoke monster gets anyone who crosses.

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by kaiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
Entering illegally isn't a felony. Returning after deportation is. Nuance isn't exactly Trump's thing, so I'm guessing that's where you got the misinformation?

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:53 pm

kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
A proposal whose price tag puts it in fantasy-land isn't a proposal worth talking about. If we are going there, might as well make a laser forcefield, or the wall from Lost where the smoke monster gets anyone who crosses.
Even if a border wall cost $100 billion (and it won't be that expensive), it's a f*ck ton cheaper than providing welfare benefits long term to 11+ million new "citizens", plus the millions more who are going to follow in the expectation of another round of amnesty

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Post by Holly Golightly » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:54 pm

kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
A proposal whose price tag puts it in fantasy-land isn't a proposal worth talking about. If we are going there, might as well make a laser forcefield, or the wall from Lost where the smoke monster gets anyone who crosses.
Smoke monster gets my vote.

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by encore1101 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
A proposal whose price tag puts it in fantasy-land isn't a proposal worth talking about. If we are going there, might as well make a laser forcefield, or the wall from Lost where the smoke monster gets anyone who crosses.
Even if a border wall cost $100 billion (and it won't be that expensive), it's a f*ck ton cheaper than providing welfare benefits long term to 11+ million new "citizens", plus the millions more who are going to follow in the expectation of another round of amnesty

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Post by rinkrat19 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
A proposal whose price tag puts it in fantasy-land isn't a proposal worth talking about. If we are going there, might as well make a laser forcefield, or the wall from Lost where the smoke monster gets anyone who crosses.
Even if a border wall cost $100 billion (and it won't be that expensive), it's a f*ck ton cheaper than providing welfare benefits long term to 11+ million new "citizens", plus the millions more who are going to follow in the expectation of another round of amnesty
Wait, are they lazy and on welfare, or are they stealing your job after you trained them to do it?

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Re: Anti-conservative bias in legal employment?

Post by sephrenia300 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:57 pm

Holly Golightly wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pretty interesting how not a single person in this thread has actually engaged any substantive policy proposals of Trump's. All the posts are either ad hominem attacks or ginned-up outrage that I'm using the term 'illegal' to describe illegal aliens.
He proposed building a 1,933 mile wall (the full length of the US/Mexico border) that will be paid for by the Mexican government (without any basis, he promised that he would make Mexico pay for it). And we are supposed to take that seriously and debate it as a legitimate proposal of policy?
I think that's a fantastic policy proposal that would actually work (though good luck getting mexico to pay - that was clearly meant rhetorically). Far better than Rubio/Bush/Clinton, who want to give amnesty to literally 11+ million FELONS
A proposal whose price tag puts it in fantasy-land isn't a proposal worth talking about. If we are going there, might as well make a laser forcefield, or the wall from Lost where the smoke monster gets anyone who crosses.
Smoke monster gets my vote.
Only instead of an Onix head we'll give it Trump's hairdo. That'll scare the bejesus out of the Mexicans and get them darned kids off our lawn.

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Post by UVAIce » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:02 pm

The practice group I am going to is fairly conservative and they would wonder about my judgment and character if I joined the Trump campaign. The guy just continues to make terrible public statements - It's one thing to be for a "secure border" and another to call all illegal immigrants from Mexico (because when he says immigrants, he means Mexicans) rapists and murderers. The guy also called for us to bomb Iraq's oil fields (wtf!) to defeat ISIS.

Lots of Republican Candidates are "tough on immigration." Only Trump freely and regularly makes inappropriate and offensive statements to the national media.
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Ok, why not just let everyone who wants to come to America in then! Look, I didn't intend this thread to turn into a Trump bashing thread, and I don't have enough ammunition to defend him against all of you at once.

But you've all answered my actual original question - rabid intolerance among lawyers is clearly widespread, and expressing any actual conservative viewpoints will get me fired. Thank you.

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Post by Emma. » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:03 pm

To answer your original question, if I were interviewing you and saw that on your resume, you can be damn sure it'd be an auto-ding.

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Post by Holly Golightly » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:04 pm

Maybe volunteer for Palin-Nugent 2016 instead of Trump.

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Post by Elston Gunn » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:04 pm

No one will fire you for conservative views. They will fire you for being an asshole and/or dumb.

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Post by Holly Golightly » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:04 pm

Emma. wrote:To answer your original question, if I were interviewing you and saw that on your resume, you can be damn sure it'd be an auto-ding.
Oh, I would for sure call him in for an interview just for the lulz.

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Post by kaiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ok, why not just let everyone who wants to come to America in then! Look, I didn't intend this thread to turn into a Trump bashing thread, and I don't have enough ammunition to defend him against all of you at once.

But you've all answered my actual original question - rabid intolerance among lawyers is clearly widespread, and expressing any actual conservative viewpoints will get me fired. Thank you.
Not true at all that expressing actual conservative viewpoints would get you fired. I have many conservative colleagues. But once again, these are the people able to discuss certain issues with a sense of tact, empathy, and respect. Donald Trump is not able to do that (or is unwilling to do that, as it allows him to cultivate a following among the rabble-rousing bottom of the barrel. These are the types who care more about the buzzwords than the content, and who just jump at the red meat thrown to them).

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Post by hoos89 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ok, why not just let everyone who wants to come to America in then! Look, I didn't intend this thread to turn into a Trump bashing thread, and I don't have enough ammunition to defend him against all of you at once.

But you've all answered my actual original question - rabid intolerance among lawyers is clearly widespread, and expressing any actual conservative viewpoints will get me fired. Thank you.
Are you a birther?

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Post by kaiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:18 pm

hoos89 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ok, why not just let everyone who wants to come to America in then! Look, I didn't intend this thread to turn into a Trump bashing thread, and I don't have enough ammunition to defend him against all of you at once.

But you've all answered my actual original question - rabid intolerance among lawyers is clearly widespread, and expressing any actual conservative viewpoints will get me fired. Thank you.
Are you a birther?
Lol I remember some investigative report where they were looking for people who genuinely believed that Obama was some foreign Muslim. They came across this trailer park in Texas, and this guy missing half his teeth was interviewed saying "I can't forgive Obama because he lied to us."

Interviewer: "Lied to us about what?"

Redneck: "Being a Muslim, and being foreign."

Interviewer: "And how did we know that he lied about those things?"

At that point, the toothless guy had the most dumbfounded look on his face, since it was clear that he had never considered that follow up question. Was just so amusing, and made me realize the type of person it takes to actually be swayed by the stuff Trump was selling for the longest time. When I say bottom of the barrel, its quite literal.

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Post by zuckerkorn90 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:26 pm

I absolutely think you should put Trump 2016 on your resume. Firms deserve to know that you're a nutjob before they offer you a job.

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