2015 University of Virginia OGI Thread Forum

[swampman]

My writing sample from my summer job probably won't be ready until after the initial submission of bids. Should I put something in there (I guess my 1L brief) and just update it later?

I think I saw in last year's OGI thread that most firms won't print the writing sample until the callback phase, so that should be fine. Might want to double-check that with career services though, unless someone here can confirm.

[Anonymous User]

More of a general question, but this is as good a place as any. If through networking, a firm who will be at OGI asks you to come in during the summer and do "a round of interviews" before OGI to save them the cost of a plane ticket, does that basically mean that you've jumped straight to a "callback"? So after the interview they will offer/ding?

Also, at this sort of thing how many interviews does a firm usually put you through in the same day?

[cfr1225]

More of a general question, but this is as good a place as any. If through networking, a firm who will be at OGI asks you to come in during the summer and do "a round of interviews" before OGI to save them the cost of a plane ticket, does that basically mean that you've jumped straight to a "callback"? So after the interview they will offer/ding?

Also, at this sort of thing how many interviews does a firm usually put you through in the same day?

1. Generally, yes, at least in my experience. (Maybe some firms are weird? That should shock literally no one.)

2. My callbacks were all four or five slots. Sometimes one of the slots is lunch or coffee. Some slots have more than one attorney, or sometimes one of the slots is with someone from recruiting.

[Anonymous User]

Heard through the grapevine that VLR has started calling people. I don't know exactly when they started or if they're done.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know what the deal with Davis Polk DC is? Looks like they don't traditionally take SAs in the DC office and this is the first year they've interviewed separately for it. Is the interview for a split DC/NY summer? Any idea what the class size is?

[whats an updog]

Heard through the grapevine that VLR has started calling people. I don't know exactly when they started or if they're done.

Looking at the thread from last year it seems mostly like if you don't get a call today, you're not getting one. I don't know anything outside of that though (and am still waiting patiently for my write-on call which I assume I nailed).

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know when to expect write-on calls? I assume that happens days, if not weeks, after grade-on calls. But then again I also assumed two of my tires wouldn't blow out shortly before midnight on a narrow and windy road in the boonies.

[Anonymous User]

Write-on and grade-on calls happen at the same time

[swampman]

Write-on and grade-on calls happen at the same time

That can't be right. I haven't got a call yet, and I'm a very good writer. You don't understand. Like, very good.

[Anonymous User]

How do grade-ons get non-editorial board positions on LR (e.g. executive editors, articles editors), is there like an audition/tryout or somesuch in August? Also, how much additional work do these positions require/do we want one of them?

[whats an updog]

Write-on and grade-on calls happen at the same time

That can't be right. I haven't got a call yet, and I'm a very good writer. You don't understand. Like, very good.

Confirmed, can't be right - haven't got my call yet and I incorporated puns into my writing section.

[McGruff]

Anyone know what the deal with the multiple Boies entries is? There's "Boies Schiller & Flexner - Litigation Practice (New York, NY)" and "Boies Schiller & Flexner (New York, NY)", and each one uses a bid. Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

[Anonymous User]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

[cornerstone]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

Solid use of anon.

[Anonymous User]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

Solid use of anon.

Having inside info on Boies would out me.

[cornerstone]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

Solid use of anon.

Having inside info on Boies would out me.

http://www.bsfllp.com/practices/050
Look bro I've got super secret inside info too!

[McGruff]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

Solid use of anon.

Having inside info on Boies would out me.

http://www.bsfllp.com/practices/050
Look bro I've got super secret inside info too!

I was under the impression that firm pages were unreliable for learning what the firm actually does, it's more like what they're willing to do if you've got the money (but not necessarily something they do on a regular basis). Chambers also ranks Boies in Antitrust, which is probably not a form of litigation (I have no idea what antitrust is) so that seems to indicate they're not all lit. But either way, I take it that no one has any idea why Boies has multiple OGI entries?

[rhododactylos]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

Solid use of anon.

Having inside info on Boies would out me.

Danger, Boies' covert antitrust operations have been compromised!

But in all seriousness I think this is just something a few firms choose to do. MoFo DC has separate bids for Corporate and non-Corporate for example.

[First Offense]

Isn't Boies all litigation anyways?

Nope.

Solid use of anon.

Having inside info on Boies would out me.

http://www.bsfllp.com/practices/050
Look bro I've got super secret inside info too!

I was under the impression that firm pages were unreliable for learning what the firm actually does, it's more like what they're willing to do if you've got the money (but not necessarily something they do on a regular basis). Chambers also ranks Boies in Antitrust, which is probably not a form of litigation (I have no idea what antitrust is) so that seems to indicate they're not all lit. But either way, I take it that no one has any idea why Boies has multiple OGI entries?

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How do you not have any idea what antitrust is?

[Anonymous User]

For better or worse, I accepted a position as a Dillard. Wondering, resume-wise, if "Dillard Fellow, Legal Research and Writing Teaching Assistant" is appropriate for a bullet point.

[First Offense]

Fiddle a bit with the language, but absolutely put it on there, especially if you're interested in lit. Any strong writer signals + willing to interact with people can't hurt.

[McGruff]

How do you not have any idea what antitrust is?

I mean, I know (vaguely) what the word means, I just don't have any idea what lawyers in an "antitrust group" do, so I don't know whether it's litigation or not. Isn't Twombly about anti-trust stuff? Isn't it litigation? I'm sure the answer is "ya but antitrust practice means regulatory" but I'm not really sure what that means either since regulation and litigation intersect too. basically idklol

[First Offense]

How do you not have any idea what antitrust is?

I mean, I know (vaguely) what the word means, I just don't have any idea what lawyers in an "antitrust group" do, so I don't know whether it's litigation or not. Isn't Twombly about anti-trust stuff? Isn't it litigation? I'm sure the answer is "ya but antitrust practice means regulatory" but I'm not really sure what that means either since regulation and litigation intersect too. basically idklol

When Microsoft gets sued, it's for antitrust violations. There's regulatory in there too, but generally it's litigation.

[Yardbird]

For better or worse, I accepted a position as a Dillard. Wondering, resume-wise, if "Dillard Fellow, Legal Research and Writing Teaching Assistant" is appropriate for a bullet point.

First, "Teaching Fellow" sounds better than "Teaching Assistant"; you're a graduate student, not some undergraduate helper! Also, I was a Dillard and just put "Dillard Fellow"--nice segue for them to ask me what it was. Lastly, you should put it if you're a Dillard even if you're going corporate. I was targeting corporate only for almost every interview (save one or two), and they still liked that I was a Dillard.

All that being said, you will have done zero Dillard work by OGI (so not TOO much to talk about, but spice it up) and likely minimal Dillard work by your first callbacks (if you have a lot of callbacks, be prepared to do Dillard work while you travel...)

[swampman]

How do you not have any idea what antitrust is?

I mean, I know (vaguely) what the word means, I just don't have any idea what lawyers in an "antitrust group" do, so I don't know whether it's litigation or not. Isn't Twombly about anti-trust stuff? Isn't it litigation? I'm sure the answer is "ya but antitrust practice means regulatory" but I'm not really sure what that means either since regulation and litigation intersect too. basically idklol

When Microsoft gets sued, it's for antitrust violations. There's regulatory in there too, but generally it's litigation.

Heads up though, a lot of firms do MUCH more M&A antitrust counseling than antitrust litigation, so don't assume antitrust=lit.