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Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:53 pm

Are MSW programs graded on a forced curve like lawl school?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Are MSW programs graded on a forced curve like lawl school?

No, there's rampant grade inflation like most master's programs. Grades don't really matter for social work hiring though.

Anonymous User wrote:What are good sources for scoping out social work jobs other than Idealist?

NASW has a job bank

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are MSW programs graded on a forced curve like lawl school?
No, there's rampant grade inflation like most master's programs. Grades don't really matter for social work hiring though.

Anonymous User wrote:What are good sources for scoping out social work jobs other than Idealist?
NASW has a job bank

Thanks. How much do social workers with just a bachelors usually earn? Not 100% sure I want the MSW on top of my JD unless it would merit a significant pay bump or bring more opportunities.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:21 pm

Depends what you're doing. In child protection, bachelor's level and master's level make pretty much the same at the starting level (like 40-50k, probably upwards to 60k in big cities like SF or NYC) but upward mobility is much different. In private mental health/chemical dependency/family services, no one makes shit unless you're a therapist/some sort of managerial staff. Probably looking more at like 20 to 30k there. In the medical field/hospital social work, they dont really hire people w/o a masters (at least ime), In my experience doing stuff like teaching parenting classes, case management, working info and referral lines, I made around 30-35k per year.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:50 pm

Between social work and teaching, which field is less glutted? Which is more likely to lead to a FTLT job? I need to figure out a plan ASAP if my C&F shit doesn't work out. Help please.

84651846190 · Post by **84651846190** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:57 pm

This thread should absolutely terrify anyone about to enroll in law school.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:00 pm

What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?

Yes actually.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:10 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?
Yes actually.

IDGAF. I'm graduating with 0 debt and want to keep my options open, whether it's social work or teaching.

bjsesq · Post by **bjsesq** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?

It pays shit and is high stress. The one benefit that it has going for it in the context of a recent grad with high debt is that the job usually falls under the government or 501c3 and gives you a chance at making ends meet with paye and pslf.

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?
Yes actually.
IDGAF. I'm graduating with 0 debt and want to keep my options open, whether it's social work or teaching.

Why limit yourself to jobs that force you to live in squalor.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:20 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?
Yes actually.
IDGAF. I'm graduating with 0 debt and want to keep my options open, whether it's social work or teaching.
Why limit yourself to jobs that force you to live in squalor.

Because maybe some people want jerbs that entail some sort of noble purpose?

Also, those jerbs are most in line with my pre-law and legal experience.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:55 pm

When it comes to obtaining social work jobs, does ranking of the MSW program matter as school ranking does in law? Do your job prospects differ depending on where you go?

84651846190 · Post by **84651846190** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?

The problem is that you wasted three years of your life in law school. I have nothing against social work.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:02 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?
The problem is that you wasted three years of your life in law school. I have nothing against social work.

A JD is not a disadvantage and could possibly be a plus when it comes to social work jerbs. Did people who work in compliance/politics/finance "waste" three years of their lives in lawl school?

sublime · Post by **sublime** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:03 pm

84651846190 · Post by **84651846190** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?
The problem is that you wasted three years of your life in law school. I have nothing against social work.
A JD is not a disadvantage and could possibly be a plus when it comes to social work jerbs. Did people who work in compliance/politics/finance "waste" three years of their lives in lawl school?

It's not essential, and yes, everyone doing something that could be obtained without a law degree immediately after law school "wasted" their time to some extent. Three years of your life is not worth a slightly better chance at some god awful, shitty 40k job. You could have spent those three years actually helping people as a volunteer or some other job that relates to social work.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:17 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's wrong with pursuing a career in social work? Too lowly for you BigLawl associates?
The problem is that you wasted three years of your life in law school. I have nothing against social work.
A JD is not a disadvantage and could possibly be a plus when it comes to social work jerbs. Did people who work in compliance/politics/finance "waste" three years of their lives in lawl school?
It's not essential, and yes, everyone doing something that could be obtained without a law degree immediately after law school "wasted" their time to some extent. Three years of your life is not worth a slightly better chance at some god awful, shitty 40k job. You could have spent those three years actually helping people as a volunteer or some other job that relates to social work.

I volunteered with Legal Aid throughout lawl school--during the school year and in the summers. That experience, working with the poor, victims of trauma, youth, and immigrants, is highly relevant to social work.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:24 pm

I see some social work positions saying that they want a bachelor's degree in "social work or a related field". I majored in undergrad in Sociology and Anthropology--are those considered related fields?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:37 am

Will it be tough to get into an MSW program if I have a low law GPA? (3.006)? UG GPA is strong (magna, Phi Beta Kappa).

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu May 28, 2015 9:13 am

I want to apply to MSW programs. Should I list on my resume my legal internships and the fact that I completed only 58 credits of my JD? Will the fact that I left my JD program mid-way raise red flags?

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