Don't forget the 400 burritos you gotta feed Obama though broflawschoolkid wrote:1100 Chipotle burritos w/guac. Those are my models.2014 wrote:Stub year bonus to 11k prorated, you heard it here first. Models and bottles yo
change in the cravath scale Forum
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting
Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.
Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
Anonymous Posting
Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.
Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
- 2014

- Posts: 6028
- Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:53 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
-
BrooklynLaw16

- Posts: 112
- Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:31 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Even if they don't increase salary across the board, it's possible to negotiate for a higher salary:
http://abovethelaw.com/2014/07/5-ways-t ... aw-salary/
http://abovethelaw.com/2014/07/5-ways-t ... aw-salary/
-
FSK

- Posts: 8058
- Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:47 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Alright. I'll just go make partner at cravath, then worry I'm not compensated enough.BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Even if they don't increase salary across the board, it's possible to negotiate for a higher salary:
http://abovethelaw.com/2014/07/5-ways-t ... aw-salary/
Last edited by FSK on Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Desert Fox

- Posts: 18283
- Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:34 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
You can sometimes get bumped up a class year.
Last edited by Desert Fox on Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
BrooklynLaw16

- Posts: 112
- Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:31 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
[/quote] Alright. I'll just go make partner at cravath, then worry I'm not compensated enough.[/quote]
This is statistically unlikely. Good luck though
This is statistically unlikely. Good luck though
Want to continue reading?
Register now to search topics and post comments!
Absolutely FREE!
Already a member? Login
-
Law Student 2848

- Posts: 53
- Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:25 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
So you could have answered your own question by Googling it if the source was a news article? smhBrooklynLaw16 wrote:Source is an acquaintance who claims to have read a news article about it. Like I said, unverified and if unsubstantiated, we should assume it's false. I was just wondering if anyone heard the same.
-
BrooklynLaw16

- Posts: 112
- Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:31 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Obviously I looked and I couldn't find the article so I asked, in case someone on here knew or heard something. Furthermore, the post only invites responses from those who have an insight as to the truth or falsity of this proposition. And you clearly don't know anything. So why are you responding.Law Student 2848 wrote:So you could have answered your own question by Googling it if the source was a news article? smhBrooklynLaw16 wrote:Source is an acquaintance who claims to have read a news article about it. Like I said, unverified and if unsubstantiated, we should assume it's false. I was just wondering if anyone heard the same.
-
Anonymous User
- Posts: 432820
- Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
I mean, he's right. If firms raise salaries, they'll raise salaries for all associates. In 2007, Simpson raised salaries a flat $15k for everyone. But an increase in base salaries right now still feels unlikely (and obviously this thread is bs). Maybe in a couple of years. Things are tightening a bit.flawschoolkid wrote:This is adorable.BrooklynLaw16 wrote:They'd have to do it across the board. Firms will have retention problems if they get cheap with more senior associates. If raises are not commensurate, some new associates will make more than some second year associates. Then they're guaranteed to get up and go to slytherin. ..I mean cravath...
-
20141023

- Posts: 3070
- Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:17 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
.
Last edited by 20141023 on Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
enibs

- Posts: 159
- Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:28 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
I hate to break it to you, but it ain't happening. Not this year. Some day it will, as inflation continues to nibble away at the constant dollar value of associate salaries, which have been flat for eight years now. But legal hiring is still more a buyer's market than a seller's market, and business is still choppy/uncertain. So there's just no incentive for the firms to do it right now.
I also think that if/when firms feel like they need to increase associate compensation, you're more likely to see it in the bonuses first, rather than the base salary. Once a firm raises base, they've locked in the fixed cost. Firms went to $160 in 2007, right before the economic collapse, and weren't able/willing to roll it back when the collapse hit (instead they cut cost by dumping associates overboard). The memory is too fresh for firms to want to do it again. If a firm raises comp by increasing the bonus scale, it's a lot easier to roll that back if there's another economic downturn.
I also think that if/when firms feel like they need to increase associate compensation, you're more likely to see it in the bonuses first, rather than the base salary. Once a firm raises base, they've locked in the fixed cost. Firms went to $160 in 2007, right before the economic collapse, and weren't able/willing to roll it back when the collapse hit (instead they cut cost by dumping associates overboard). The memory is too fresh for firms to want to do it again. If a firm raises comp by increasing the bonus scale, it's a lot easier to roll that back if there's another economic downturn.
-
20141023

- Posts: 3070
- Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:17 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
.
Last edited by 20141023 on Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Robb

- Posts: 330
- Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:21 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
you know you want a roombaRegulus wrote:I was being facetious, but that is a good point about the bonuses.


- Old Gregg

- Posts: 5409
- Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:26 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
op is a dumbass. what's with the stupid people on TLS lately????
Register now!
Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.
It's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
- 84651846190

- Posts: 2198
- Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:06 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Some people just don't get enough attention IRL and have to make asses of themselves online to compensate.
-
SFB222

- Posts: 50
- Joined: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:23 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
KM2016 wrote:I will love you forever if this isn't a flame...BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Have you guys heard of an impending change in the cravath scale for new associates? Someone told me today that they're going to increase starting salary by anywhere between $15K and $30K, yielding starting salaries of between $175,000 to $190,000. Is this true? If so, do you think that other big nyc firms will follow suit?
Last edited by SFB222 on Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- patogordo

- Posts: 4826
- Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:33 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
2/10SFB222 wrote:Could you guys be anymore greedy? Already overpaid and now want more.KM2016 wrote:I will love you forever if this isn't a flame...BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Have you guys heard of an impending change in the cravath scale for new associates? Someone told me today that they're going to increase starting salary by anywhere between $15K and $30K, yielding starting salaries of between $175,000 to $190,000. Is this true? If so, do you think that other big nyc firms will follow suit?
- heythatslife

- Posts: 1201
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:18 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Can law schools be any more greedy? Already overpaid and now want more tuition.SFB222 wrote:Could you guys be anymore greedy? Already overpaid and now want more.KM2016 wrote:I will love you forever if this isn't a flame...BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Have you guys heard of an impending change in the cravath scale for new associates? Someone told me today that they're going to increase starting salary by anywhere between $15K and $30K, yielding starting salaries of between $175,000 to $190,000. Is this true? If so, do you think that other big nyc firms will follow suit?
Get unlimited access to all forums and topics
Register now!
I'm pretty sure I told you it's FREE...
Already a member? Login
- 84651846190

- Posts: 2198
- Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:06 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
heythatslife wrote:Can law schools be any more greedy? Already overpaid and now want more tuition.SFB222 wrote:Could you guys be anymore greedy? Already overpaid and now want more.KM2016 wrote:I will love you forever if this isn't a flame...BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Have you guys heard of an impending change in the cravath scale for new associates? Someone told me today that they're going to increase starting salary by anywhere between $15K and $30K, yielding starting salaries of between $175,000 to $190,000. Is this true? If so, do you think that other big nyc firms will follow suit?
- 84651846190

- Posts: 2198
- Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:06 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Only two more weeks!
-
GOATlawman

- Posts: 175
- Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:40 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
rumor is that cravath is doing big things to the scale
- Old Gregg

- Posts: 5409
- Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:26 pm
Re: change in the cravath scale
Thanks, we all saw the same anonymous post on auto admit.GOATlawman wrote:rumor is that cravath is doing big things to the scale
Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.
Register now, it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
-
KM2016

- Posts: 282
- Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:20 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
Don't play with my heart like thatGOATlawman wrote:rumor is that cravath is doing big things to the scale
-
BigZuck

- Posts: 11730
- Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:53 am
Re: change in the cravath scale
NY to 190?
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login