Quitting journal after accepting SA offer Forum

[Danger Zone]

Despite me complaining a lot about journal work taking up a lot of time etc., I think if I was hiring at a firm and I found out someone quit after I gave them an offer it'd piss me off...

Same. Everyone knows journal is the stupidest thing ever, but it just makes you look shady.

Shady? Nah. It just looks like you're acknowledging that journal is bullshit, which no one would disagree with.

[moonman157]

Despite me complaining a lot about journal work taking up a lot of time etc., I think if I was hiring at a firm and I found out someone quit after I gave them an offer it'd piss me off...

Same. Everyone knows journal is the stupidest thing ever, but it just makes you look shady.

Shady? Nah. It just looks like you're acknowledging that journal is bullshit, which no one would disagree with.

Or that you're the kind of person that wants to get the benefit of putting something on your resume, but as soon as you have to actually do work for the thing that you have just reaped the benefit of, you decide to call it quits, leaving your colleagues to do the work that you decided was too bullshit for you. I, for one, would not want to work for this person. Don't want to go through the bullshit of a journal? Don't join one to begin with.

[Danger Zone]

Nothing wrong with beating the system.

[Frayed Knot]

Nothing wrong with beating the system.

"Beating the system" frequently means getting away with doing less work—just as it does here. Someone who beat the system by ducking out of LR work seems likely to "beat the system" by, for example, only doing enough work to avoid getting fired while they pay off their loans.

You might say that there's nothing wrong with beating the system there, either—they got biglaw money for less work. But that doesn't mean I need to be excited about working with them/picking up the extra work they're not getting done.

[Mal Reynolds]

You people are fucking assholes if you quit your journal. And I hate everything journals stand for.

I guess I'm not surprised DZ is in that camp.

[Danger Zone]

You're just jealous.

[Mal Reynolds]

You're annoying if your trolling and am asshole if you're not. So either way.

[bk1]

You people are fucking assholes if you quit your journal. And I hate everything journals stand for.

Agreed.

You're not impressing anybody with your ability to "cheat the system" by quitting journal after OCI.

[Danger Zone]

It would be awesome if everyone quit and the school was left without a publication. The administration would go nuts, and fuck those people. Most law reviews don't need to exist anyway.

I didn't actually quit fwiw, but I should have.

[Mal Reynolds]

It would be awesome if everyone quit and the school was left without a publication. The administration would go nuts, and fuck those people. Most law reviews don't need to exist anyway.

I didn't actually quit fwiw, but I should have.

Oh haha you're so funny. Thanks for adding your perspective.

[mr.hands]

You people are fucking assholes if you quit your journal. And I hate everything journals stand for.

I guess I'm not surprised DZ is in that camp.

[rinkrat19]

You people are fucking assholes if you quit your journal.

Goddamnit, I hate agreeing with Mal.

On my secondary journal, the 3Ls are literally the most coddled and underworked little princesses in academia, and whenever they can't manage to do their pathetically tiny assignments, it's the e-board that has to make up the difference. Because we didn't have enough to fucking do in the first place.

("Then you shouldn't have run for board!" I ran for board so I wouldn't have to do source and cite. I did not sign on to do all my own board shit AND your source and cite work, assholes. You wanted the line on your resume; fucking own it like a grownup.)

Do other schools put a note on transcripts for journal non-completion?

[juzam_djinn]

If you didn't have the balls not to do journal before OCI you deserve to stay on it you spineless idiots.

[Desert Fox]

I think you've gotta do it at least one year. Quitting 3l is fine as long as you take it off your resume after 2l ends.

Quiting after OCI is basically lying about being on journal. You didn't have to do the write on.

But lol at eboard people complaining. You are a bunch of house millenials.

[Danger Zone]

You people are fucking assholes if you quit your journal.

Goddamnit, I hate agreeing with Mal.

On my secondary journal, the 3Ls are literally the most coddled and underworked little princesses in academia, and whenever they can't manage to do their pathetically tiny assignments, it's the e-board that has to make up the difference. Because we didn't have enough to fucking do in the first place.

("Then you shouldn't have run for board!" I ran for board so I wouldn't have to do source and cite. I did not sign on to do all my own board shit AND your source and cite work, assholes. You wanted the line on your resume; fucking own it like a grownup.)

Do other schools put a note on transcripts for journal non-completion?

You knew what you were getting into when you signed on to board duties. Not surprised it's you that's complaining about something that anyone else would completely expect before diving in.

[FKASunny]

Of all the people on journal I feel worst about board members. At least on mine, they all seem like cool people who didn't realize they'd have so much slack to pick up from those of us who are shitty people.

[thirtyandseven]

But lol at eboard people complaining. You are a bunch of house millenials.

FWIW I'm on senior eboard of a secondary and we have neither the time nor motivation to track down OP's firm and whine to them or to CDO.

It could probably vary journal-to-journal, though. We drafted extra 2Ls because people transfer/drop out/quit. If no one ends up leaving, there's no downside to us; just means less work for the 2Ls. I have no doubt that there are eboards out there that just don't plan ahead, and then get sand up their rectum when someone quits.

[rinkrat19]

You people are fucking assholes if you quit your journal.

Goddamnit, I hate agreeing with Mal.

On my secondary journal, the 3Ls are literally the most coddled and underworked little princesses in academia, and whenever they can't manage to do their pathetically tiny assignments, it's the e-board that has to make up the difference. Because we didn't have enough to fucking do in the first place.

("Then you shouldn't have run for board!" I ran for board so I wouldn't have to do source and cite. I did not sign on to do all my own board shit AND your source and cite work, assholes. You wanted the line on your resume; fucking own it like a grownup.)

Do other schools put a note on transcripts for journal non-completion?

You knew what you were getting into when you signed on to board duties. Not surprised it's you that's complaining about something that anyone else would completely expect before diving in.

So I should have expected to do stuff NOT part of my expected duties, but the other 3Ls should NOT be expected to do what they DID sign up for? Sound logic.

[Danger Zone]

Yes actually. Part of being a leader in any activity is having to deal with people's unexpected bullshit.

[salix]

Part of being a leader in any activity is having to deal with people's unexpected bullshit.

QFFT

[Desert Fox]

here is why eboard people are essentially concentration camp guards. Why does it take so much fucking work to publish a 40 page article. You could run a journal with 6 people No prob.

[rinkrat19]

here is why eboard people are essentially concentration camp guards. Why does it take so much fucking work to publish a 40 page article. You could run a journal with 6 people No prob.

It would help if CO 2015 had finished their issue.

[Danger Zone]

here is why eboard people are essentially concentration camp guards. Why does it take so much fucking work to publish a 40 page article. You could run a journal with 6 people No prob.

It would help if CO 2015 had finished their issue.

Aren't you C/O 2015? I thought you were a 3L. Or are you a 2L on eboard?

[rinkrat19]

here is why eboard people are essentially concentration camp guards. Why does it take so much fucking work to publish a 40 page article. You could run a journal with 6 people No prob.

It would help if CO 2015 had finished their issue.

Aren't you C/O 2015? I thought you were a 3L. Or are you a 2L on eboard?

Yeah, oops, I meant CO 2014. Just used to typing 2015 for my own shit.

[Desert Fox]

C/o 2013 jihr didn't even publish once.