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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by BigZuck » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:16 pm

FKASunny wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 33% at T15:

Ties to the Chicago, Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta (family moved around a lot).

Lots of Cbs all over the US, some through OCI and some through mass mailing. Both NYC/Chicagi big law, big law satellite offices, and regional BigLaw.

No offers.
probably because you're in texas. nobody likes texans
lol @ TTTexas being a T15
Never forget 2012 bro. And if you do, ask a UTer and they'll remind you.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Top 33% at T15:

Ties to the Chicago, Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta (family moved around a lot).

Lots of Cbs all over the US, some through OCI and some through mass mailing. Both NYC/Chicagi big law, big law satellite offices, and regional BigLaw.

No offers.
shitty interviewer. TTTexas at 33% is rough, but you pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.

My guess is you didn't sell ties hard enough.
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 33% at T15:

Ties to the Chicago, Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta (family moved around a lot).

Lots of Cbs all over the US, some through OCI and some through mass mailing. Both NYC/Chicagi big law, big law satellite offices, and regional BigLaw.

No offers.
shitty interviewer. TTTexas at 33% is rough, but you pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.

My guess is you didn't sell ties hard enough.
I think I may be a shitty interviewer. I'm pretty high energy, to bad it is too late to tone it down.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:27 pm

4/6 in SF~PA
3/4 in DC
0 in Chicago
t14 33% IP WHY DOES CHICAGO HATE ME

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:4/6 in SF~PA
3/4 in DC
0 in Chicago
t14 33% IP WHY DOES CHICAGO HATE ME
Because Chicago IP = dead

at least I think. I did similarly awful in Chicago IP market. I only got like 1 offer there after heavily bidding it.
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:54 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:4/6 in SF~PA
3/4 in DC
0 in Chicago
t14 33% IP WHY DOES CHICAGO HATE ME
Because Chicago IP = dead

at least I think. I did similarly awful in Chicago IP market. I only got like 1 offer there after heavily bidding it.
Cool. you've given me a sense of closure. God Speed DF

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Top 33% at T15:

Ties to the Chicago, Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta (family moved around a lot).

Lots of Cbs all over the US, some through OCI and some through mass mailing. Both NYC/Chicagi big law, big law satellite offices, and regional BigLaw.

No offers.
Shoulda done the NY Job Fair.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by mvp99 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:50 pm

notgreat wrote:
mvp99 wrote:HYS, Top 1%, Veteran, Gay, AA, Language skills (5 languages), finance industry experience, bid all NYC struck out, mass mailed NJL 250 and no answers
Bro, you've never been funny on here despite how hard you try.
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:04 pm

T10% at CCN.
All NYC.
4 CBs, no offers.

So, pretty much this.
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:ITT: DF tells a bunch of people with solid grades from top schools who bid exclusively large-class NYC firms that they are severe aspies.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Danger Zone » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:12 pm

mvp99 wrote:
notgreat wrote:
mvp99 wrote:HYS, Top 1%, Veteran, Gay, AA, Language skills (5 languages), finance industry experience, bid all NYC struck out, mass mailed NJL 250 and no answers
Bro, you've never been funny on here despite how hard you try.
OMG. Ty. I truly value your thoughts.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by baal hadad » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:11 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 20% T20, Bid heavily 2/3 NY, 1/3 DC. Mass-mailed all secondary markets I had real ties too. Had 4 callbacks.
How was your interviewing skills? 4 CB's is a lot, but going 0/4 sucks. You shouldn't have bid DC at all.

You should mass mail even more places.

But you struck out because you went to a TTT20. Sorry bro, those are semi-target schools.
4 is a lot?

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by El Pollito » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:16 pm

baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 20% T20, Bid heavily 2/3 NY, 1/3 DC. Mass-mailed all secondary markets I had real ties too. Had 4 callbacks.
How was your interviewing skills? 4 CB's is a lot, but going 0/4 sucks. You shouldn't have bid DC at all.

You should mass mail even more places.

But you struck out because you went to a TTT20. Sorry bro, those are semi-target schools.
4 is a lot?
in that position, yeah

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by baal hadad » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:23 pm

El Pollito wrote:
baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 20% T20, Bid heavily 2/3 NY, 1/3 DC. Mass-mailed all secondary markets I had real ties too. Had 4 callbacks.
How was your interviewing skills? 4 CB's is a lot, but going 0/4 sucks. You shouldn't have bid DC at all.

You should mass mail even more places.

But you struck out because you went to a TTT20. Sorry bro, those are semi-target schools.
4 is a lot?
in that position, yeah
Oh ok I see what you're sayin ya 4s a lot from those schools and that bidding

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by B.B. Homemaker » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:45 pm

Desert Fox wrote:You pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.
Is this quite as true as it maybe used to be? Seems like the successful CB-to-offer conversion ratio has been on the decline for a while now.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Mal Reynolds » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:46 pm

B.B. Homemaker wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.
Is this quite as true as it maybe used to be? Seems like the successful CB-to-offer conversion ratio has been on the decline for a while now.
What basis do you have for this claim.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:50 pm

6 callbacks, 3 NY, 3 smaller regional market with weak to passable ties. 0 offers. I'm at a T7 (I think, don't care about that anymore), have decent grades, and am pretty personable. Work experience is interesting and relevant. I write like a boss and have some diversity things going for me.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by B.B. Homemaker » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:51 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.
Is this quite as true as it maybe used to be? Seems like the successful CB-to-offer conversion ratio has been on the decline for a while now.
What basis do you have for this claim.
Some spreadsheets from our career folks that track this data.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Mal Reynolds » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:54 pm

B.B. Homemaker wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.
Is this quite as true as it maybe used to be? Seems like the successful CB-to-offer conversion ratio has been on the decline for a while now.
What basis do you have for this claim.
Some spreadsheets from our career folks that track this data.
Are you talking aggregate callback to offer? That's actually a nice thing to have but I'm not sure it's necessarily true and would be curuois to know how many years of data you have.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by hoos89 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:59 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You pulled some CBs. Not nailing any means you fucked up.
Is this quite as true as it maybe used to be? Seems like the successful CB-to-offer conversion ratio has been on the decline for a while now.
What basis do you have for this claim.
Just looking at Columbia's spreadsheet, plenty of major firms' CB:Offer rates have plummeted in recent years. STB used to be close to 90% but now they're down to about 67%. Still high, but that's 3 times as many people without offers.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by B.B. Homemaker » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:00 pm

It's by firm, and I actually only have three years worth. Probably not a verifiable trend, though it correlates nicely with what I've seen and heard this season, i.e. that a decent number of people have had a respectable number of callbacks and relatively few offers as a result. I might just be friends with aspies, idk.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:6 callbacks, 3 NY, 3 smaller regional market with weak to passable ties. 0 offers. I'm at a T7 (I think, don't care about that anymore), have decent grades, and am pretty personable. Work experience is interesting and relevant. I write like a boss and have some diversity things going for me.
what type of work experience .
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:6 callbacks, 3 NY, 3 smaller regional market with weak to passable ties. 0 offers. I'm at a T7 (I think, don't care about that anymore), have decent grades, and am pretty personable. Work experience is interesting and relevant. I write like a boss and have some diversity things going for me.
what type of work experience .
Work abroad, biglaw marketing, preftigious government gig this past summer.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Mal Reynolds » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 pm

I'm just not sure why that would be the case after the economic meltdown. I'm not saying it doesn't happen on a firm to firm level, maybe they call back more people as a recruiting strategy but an across the board decrease in callback to offer rates sounds strange over the past few years. But maybe I'm wrong. Just don't see the motivation behind it.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by notgreat » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 pm

They give us the cb to offer ratio along with lots of other shit from the year before us. BB, did you get spreadsheets from upperclassmen for past years?

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:6 callbacks, 3 NY, 3 smaller regional market with weak to passable ties. 0 offers. I'm at a T7 (I think, don't care about that anymore), have decent grades, and am pretty personable. Work experience is interesting and relevant. I write like a boss and have some diversity things going for me.
what type of work experience .
Work abroad, biglaw marketing, preftigious government gig this past summer.
Does decent mean top 25% or better?
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