What do people mean by dream firm? Forum

First Offense · Post by **First Offense** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:24 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Falling in love with some rando firm because of their promotional materials is probably even dumber than just straight prestige whoring.

Kirkland and Ellis had some legit umbrellas this year at OGI.

Actus Reus · Post by **Actus Reus** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:25 pm

First Offense wrote:Seriously, would anyone who wants to do corporate in NYC not choose Watchell/Cravath/Schulte? Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.

Yes. For many reasons. Those firms are the dream though. A dream where you can't dream because you don't sleep.

DELG · Post by **DELG** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:29 pm

Actus Reus wrote:
DELG wrote:i'd love for associates to name their dream firm to lateral to

i am guessing less than 3% overlap with firms law students name
Largely my impetus for asking.

cohen milstein is mine

cookiejar1 · Post by **cookiejar1** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:30 pm

First Offense wrote:Seriously, would anyone who wants to do corporate in NYC not choose Watchell/Cravath/Schulte? Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.

lololol this is my favorite thing about tls right now

First Offense · Post by **First Offense** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:33 pm

cookiejar1 wrote:
First Offense wrote:Seriously, would anyone who wants to do corporate in NYC not choose Watchell/Cravath/Schulte? Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.
lololol this is my favorite thing about tls right now

I was writing this long-winded response to justify my reasoning, but then I noticed what you bolded. They're the best in hedge funds btw.

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:34 pm

First Offense wrote:
cookiejar1 wrote:
First Offense wrote:Seriously, would anyone who wants to do corporate in NYC not choose Watchell/Cravath/Schulte? Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.
lololol this is my favorite thing about tls right now
I was writing this long-winded response to justify my reasoning, but then I noticed what you bolded. They're the best in hedge funds btw.

Wait were you serious?

First Offense · Post by **First Offense** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:50 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
First Offense wrote:
cookiejar1 wrote:
First Offense wrote:Seriously, would anyone who wants to do corporate in NYC not choose Watchell/Cravath/Schulte? Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.
lololol this is my favorite thing about tls right now
I was writing this long-winded response to justify my reasoning, but then I noticed what you bolded. They're the best in hedge funds btw.
Wait were you serious?

I don't know if Cravath belongs in that group, but I wouldn't call it a joke.

Actus Reus · Post by **Actus Reus** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:52 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
First Offense wrote:
cookiejar1 wrote:
First Offense wrote:Seriously, would anyone who wants to do corporate in NYC not choose Watchell/Cravath/Schulte? Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.
lololol this is my favorite thing about tls right now
I was writing this long-winded response to justify my reasoning, but then I noticed what you bolded. They're the best in hedge funds btw.
Wait were you serious?

They're the best. Band 1 for sure. Legit exit ops. DREAM FIRM

Actus Reus · Post by **Actus Reus** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:53 pm

DELG wrote:
Actus Reus wrote:
DELG wrote:i'd love for associates to name their dream firm to lateral to

i am guessing less than 3% overlap with firms law students name
Largely my impetus for asking.
cohen milstein is mine

Plaintiffs firms in general I feel have better lifestyle

Pikappraider · Post by **Pikappraider** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:54 pm

Haven't looked at promotional materials but ok. Don't see what's unreasonable about being excited about a firm who is very strong in the practice group you want and where you enjoyed the time you spent with the people you met with /spoke to after the offer.

royilae · Post by **royilae** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:55 pm

Means they're most likely K-JD and have never worked full time before.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:55 pm

First Offense wrote: I don't know if Cravath belongs in that group, but I wouldn't call it a joke.

168

Rahviveh · Post by **Rahviveh** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:56 pm

Actus Reus wrote:
flawschoolkid wrote:Firm in market area I want to live that is reasonably well regarded & doesn't literally beat associates = dream firm

Alternatively, sports law
My dream firm is the one where I can work without pants for no hours a day.

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DELG · Post by **DELG** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:58 pm

Actus Reus wrote: Plaintiffs firms in general I feel have better lifestyle

i honestly don't give a shit about lifestyle/hours i just don't want to do what i am doing practicewise

Pikappraider · Post by **Pikappraider** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:59 pm

royilae wrote:Means they're most likely K-JD and have never worked full time before.

Nice blanket assumption. ITT junior associates who hate their lives/firms mock students for GASP being excited about their jerb. Keep fighting the good fight though

Actus Reus · Post by **Actus Reus** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:03 pm

Pikappraider wrote:
royilae wrote:Means they're most likely K-JD and have never worked full time before.
Nice blanket assumption. ITT junior associates who hate their lives/firms mock students for GASP being excited about their jerb. Keep fighting the good fight though

My point is that dream is the wrong word. It's just not. A firm can be great. The work can be great. It's not a dream. I wouldn't say working into the ground is a dream.

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:04 pm

anyriotgirl wrote:

These are killing me.

Pikappraider · Post by **Pikappraider** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:06 pm

Actus Reus wrote:
Pikappraider wrote:
royilae wrote:Means they're most likely K-JD and have never worked full time before.
Nice blanket assumption. ITT junior associates who hate their lives/firms mock students for GASP being excited about their jerb. Keep fighting the good fight though
My point is that dream is the wrong word. It's just not. A firm can be great. The work can be great. It's not a dream. I wouldn't say working into the ground is a dream.

Ok

kcdc1 · Post by **kcdc1** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:51 pm

First Offense wrote:Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.

I want to do lit in DC but declined my CB at W&C because I am fond of the idea of seeing my family and the sun at the same time.

mirage1287 · Post by **mirage1287** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:55 pm

Pikappraider wrote:
Actus Reus wrote:
Pikappraider wrote:
royilae wrote:Means they're most likely K-JD and have never worked full time before.
Nice blanket assumption. ITT junior associates who hate their lives/firms mock students for GASP being excited about their jerb. Keep fighting the good fight though
My point is that dream is the wrong word. It's just not. A firm can be great. The work can be great. It's not a dream. I wouldn't say working into the ground is a dream.
Ok

I think people are pointing out that law students are overly optimistic about dream jobs/firms/careers. When you're actually practicing and reality sets in as you're crying at your desk, you won't be quite so optimistic anymore.

DELG · Post by **DELG** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:57 pm

kcdc1 wrote:
First Offense wrote:Would anyone doing lit in DC not choose W&C if they had the option? DF nailed it.
I want to do lit in DC but declined my CB at W&C because I am fond of the idea of seeing my family and the sun at the same time.

enjoy never seeing the sun from inside a shittier firm

cervix cancer: my dream cancer

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:00 pm

DELG wrote:cervix cancer: my dream cancer

hahahahahahahahahaha

Actus Reus · Post by **Actus Reus** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:05 pm

Dany wrote:
DELG wrote:cervix cancer: my dream cancer
hahahahahahahahahaha

Man from Nantucket · Post by **Man from Nantucket** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote: I think people are pointing out that law students are overly optimistic about dream jobs/firms/careers. When you're actually practicing and reality sets in as you're crying at your desk, you won't be quite so optimistic anymore.

You people are absolutely insufferable. You make a lot of money. There are worse jobs in the world. Stop the incessant complaining about a career path you voluntarily chose.

arklaw13 · Post by **arklaw13** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:07 pm

Somewhere I can make a lot of money and enjoy my job I suppose.

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