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[suzige]

Then you are hilariously ignorant of your own city.

Fuck off Mal. Find me a few listings of apartments that are 1) spacious, 2) high-rise, 3) overlook Lake Michigan for <2k

I live in one. You need to better define what it is you are talking about too. Mine is all three, but it isn't luxury that's for sure. Lake Michigan is friggin huge so you can be lakeside in a shitty dump. Besides the point pple...OP wants advice here, not arguing about rent rates.

OP, I'm anticipating being in a similar boat. You gotta go with what YOU want. So figure out what you want your life to be like first, then decide which firm. Not the other way around.

[Mal Reynolds]

There are hundreds of listings that might fit that criteria. You're going to try to debate me on the details but the large point is that you're an idiot.

https://www.padmapper.com/search/apartm ... s/chicago/

[Anonymous User]

I think this is a very personal choice--follow your gut: are you happy in mid-law with less prestigious clients in a smaller (I'm speculating) city? For many, this would drive them toward W&S. (See above poster.) You should know, however, that the COL in Chicago is very low--I'm not sure what you consider "dirt cheap," but COL in Chicago is about 25% of that in NYC or 40% of that in LA. (Think spacious high-rise overlooking Lake Michigan for <$2000, or something more modest for much less.) Part of the reason for this is: Chicago is freezing in the winter, like legit miserable.

Have you ever lived in Chicago? Good luck finding your spacious high-rise for 2k.

I'm paying 1400/mo in a high rise on LSD a few blocks from downtown. 1bd ~650sqft. Chicago is the most livable big city in America.

[Big Dog]

You should know, however, that the COL in Chicago is very low--(Think spacious high-rise overlooking Lake Michigan for <$2000,

Yeah, if the condo is in Benton Harbor.

[TheThriller]

There are hundreds of listings that might fit that criteria. You're going to try to debate me on the details but the large point is that you're an idiot.

https://www.padmapper.com/search/apartm ... s/chicago/

So you're probably right, my bad for assuming that we were talking luxury living here. But you don't have to be a dick about it, although thats kind of your thing.

[Mal Reynolds]

There are hundreds of listings that might fit that criteria. You're going to try to debate me on the details but the large point is that you're an idiot.

https://www.padmapper.com/search/apartm ... s/chicago/

So you're probably right, my bad for assuming that we were talking luxury living here. But you don't have to be a dick about it, although thats kind of your thing.

I'm sorry your ignorant blanket statements received negative feedback.

[TheThriller]

There are hundreds of listings that might fit that criteria. You're going to try to debate me on the details but the large point is that you're an idiot.

https://www.padmapper.com/search/apartm ... s/chicago/

So you're probably right, my bad for assuming that we were talking luxury living here. But you don't have to be a dick about it, although thats kind of your thing.

I'm sorry your ignorant blanket statements received negative feedback.

Vitriolic much?

[Morgan12Oak]

Oh Chicago! What a city! 25% of the cost of New York City!

[BuckinghamB]

What's the midlaw firm's historical offer rate? Winston no-offered about 1/3 of its SAs a couple years ago IIRC. Sorry if this was already discussed. Skimmed thread on phone.

[Law Sauce]

I think this is a very personal choice--follow your gut: are you happy in mid-law with less prestigious clients in a smaller (I'm speculating) city? For many, this would drive them toward W&S. (See above poster.) You should know, however, that the COL in Chicago is very low--I'm not sure what you consider "dirt cheap," but COL in Chicago is about 25% of that in NYC or 40% of that in LA. (Think spacious high-rise overlooking Lake Michigan for <$2000, or something more modest for much less.) Part of the reason for this is: Chicago is freezing in the winter, like legit miserable.

Have you ever lived in Chicago? Good luck finding your spacious high-rise for 2k.

You can absolutely find decent sized apartments in high-rises for around 2k in Chicago but lol at the 25% of NYC number.

I agree, you definitely can if your definition of spacious does not = penthouse.

OP, Chicago is a great city with great CoL for paying off loans (much better than NYC if firm pays market). With you debt load, I would go to W&S. But, this is a very personal decision and you should do whatever you think would be best for you. Maybe visit Chitown a little more and then decide.

Also, W&S has been somewhat shaky lately but this summer I think that the offer rate was back up to normal, maybe the worst is behind, or maybe not, I'd look into this, but personally, while it would be relevant when comparing market-paying, similar firms in chicago (I would probably take Mayer or Katten over W&S b/c of this), but it would not stop me from going there in your situation. Others could disagree.

Edit: also pay increases at W&S would be market, probably much lower at other firm = even bigger difference in pay after 3 or 4 years

[JCougar]

Yeah, luxury living in downtown Chicago is totally possible for $2K/month. You could probably find something even cheaper than that.

[MikeJD]

Winston Strawn increased its SA class size so maybe it's not as bad as it looks. From 36 to 59 from 2013 to 2014.