Lavender Law 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Any 3L success at Lavendar, at least relative to mass mailing/other alternatives?

[Anonymous User]

Alright. You all have convinced at least one person. Just booked my flight.

[Anonymous User]

Alright. You all have convinced at least one person. Just booked my flight.

I might be doing the same soon.

I just can't quite shake the feeling that it's too good to be true, though.

[Anonymous User]

Alright. You all have convinced at least one person. Just booked my flight.

I might be doing the same soon.

I just can't quite shake the feeling that it's too good to be true, though.

Wtf are you talking about with this "too good to be true" business? Lavender Law isn't a golden ticket to a job. If your grades are shit and/or you have the personality of a wet rag, you won't find a job at Lavender, OCI, or anywhere. It's just an opportunity, in addition to OCI, to get in front of employers. People strike out from Lavender Law too.

[Anonymous User]

Alright. You all have convinced at least one person. Just booked my flight.

I might be doing the same soon.

I just can't quite shake the feeling that it's too good to be true, though.

Wtf are you talking about with this "too good to be true" business? Lavender Law isn't a golden ticket to a job. If your grades are shit and/or you have the personality of a wet rag, you won't find a job at Lavender, OCI, or anywhere. It's just an opportunity, in addition to OCI, to get in front of employers. People strike out from Lavender Law too.

It's true you can't be a douchebag. However, I feel like you get a bump grade wise. I got callbacks from firms that wouldn't talk to me at my schools OCI. But right...it's an opportunity to get in front of people and show/convince them you are a good candidate.

[Anonymous User]

should we plan on giving out transcripts? seems potentially awkward if most of the crowd is non-students, but also seems like not having them would then mean best-case scenario is waiting for someone in recruiting to take the effort to ask, then more wait time...

[Anonymous User]

should we plan on giving out transcripts? seems potentially awkward if most of the crowd is non-students, but also seems like not having them would then mean best-case scenario is waiting for someone in recruiting to take the effort to ask, then more wait time...

There won't be any non-students at the career fair portion of the conference, except the attorneys who are doing the interviewing. For the career fair, they will want a resume and transcript. For any other part of the conference (lunch, reception, seminars, etc.), I would suggest having at least resumes, if not more, on hand, in case you meet an attorney with hiring/CB power and they ask for it.

[Anonymous User]

should we plan on giving out transcripts? seems potentially awkward if most of the crowd is non-students, but also seems like not having them would then mean best-case scenario is waiting for someone in recruiting to take the effort to ask, then more wait time...

There won't be any non-students at the career fair portion of the conference, except the attorneys who are doing the interviewing. For the career fair, they will want a resume and transcript. For any other part of the conference (lunch, reception, seminars, etc.), I would suggest having at least resumes, if not more, on hand, in case you meet an attorney with hiring/CB power and they ask for it.

is this a recent change? from the 2011 thread-- "the Career Fair is for more than just law students, and consequently it's not tailored specifically to law student hiring. Short conversations at a firm's table together with a resume drop MIGHT result in a callback, but the odds are not great. It's much more useful for networking, but networking doesn't really do much for law students (not those looking for biglaw in a big market, anyway; effects are stronger for smaller firms and markets). Networking is much more important for practicing lawyers looking to lateral."
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 7&start=25

[Anonymous User]

should we plan on giving out transcripts? seems potentially awkward if most of the crowd is non-students, but also seems like not having them would then mean best-case scenario is waiting for someone in recruiting to take the effort to ask, then more wait time...

There won't be any non-students at the career fair portion of the conference, except the attorneys who are doing the interviewing. For the career fair, they will want a resume and transcript. For any other part of the conference (lunch, reception, seminars, etc.), I would suggest having at least resumes, if not more, on hand, in case you meet an attorney with hiring/CB power and they ask for it.

is this a recent change? from the 2011 thread-- "the Career Fair is for more than just law students, and consequently it's not tailored specifically to law student hiring. Short conversations at a firm's table together with a resume drop MIGHT result in a callback, but the odds are not great. It's much more useful for networking, but networking doesn't really do much for law students (not those looking for biglaw in a big market, anyway; effects are stronger for smaller firms and markets). Networking is much more important for practicing lawyers looking to lateral."
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 7&start=25

Not sure where this 2011 poster got his or her opinion about the career fair. This was the opposite of my experience last year. As noted up thread by myself and other posters, I know of many callbacks, and received some of my own. I did not see any non-students last year, but admittedly I did not talk to everyone and was focused on resume dropping. Either way, this should not change whether you bring a transcript. The initial instinct to bring one as opposed to depending on recruiting to take the next step and ask for one is correct. And they'll likely ask for one at the table anyway. Whether or not the career fair is for non-students is so far from mattering in terms of what to bring.

There's a whole lot of ridiculousness in this thread. Between the thinking that Lavender Law is too good to be true (it's not - it's just a career fair) and pondering whether to bring transcripts because non-lawyers may be there (who cares - focus on what you need to get a job), I'm floored by the amount of "not getting it" that I read here.

[Anonymous User]

Alright. You all have convinced at least one person. Just booked my flight.

I might be doing the same soon.

I just can't quite shake the feeling that it's too good to be true, though.

Wtf are you talking about with this "too good to be true" business? Lavender Law isn't a golden ticket to a job. If your grades are shit and/or you have the personality of a wet rag, you won't find a job at Lavender, OCI, or anywhere. It's just an opportunity, in addition to OCI, to get in front of employers. People strike out from Lavender Law too.

It's true you can't be a douchebag. However, I feel like you get a bump grade wise. I got callbacks from firms that wouldn't talk to me at my schools OCI. But right...it's an opportunity to get in front of people and show/convince them you are a good candidate.

Agree that there is a bit of a bump grade-wise, at least if you give a good impression to the interviewer. Not a huge bump, but enough for someone who is say, median at CCN to get a callback at a firm that only occasionally gives callbacks to median CCN students. It's not going to make up for grades far out of a firm's range.

Transcript is essential. Not bringing a transcript will result in the assumption that your grades are terrible. I suppose if your grades *are* terrible, it might not matter one way or another, but people will expect to see one.

[Anonymous User]

Is it possible to get CBs at firms that already dinged you during your school's OCI?

Yes. This happened to someone I know well. Dinged through mass mail, dinged again at OCI, CB from LavLaw and now working there.

[Anonymous User]

Any 3L success at Lavendar, at least relative to mass mailing/other alternatives?

Getting in front of individuals is always better than mailing, though I don't have any specific examples of success stories.

[Anonymous User]

Is this open to LGBT allies?

[Anonymous User]

Is this open to LGBT allies?

1. No one will ask you if you are LGBT.

2. People will assume you are LGBT.

3. Attending as an ally is fine, but, to the extent you say you are not LGBT, people will expect you to be able to articulate some connection to LGBT issues. For example, you were an intern at HRC, or you've worked on LGBT asylum cases in law school, or you co-founded your high school's GSA, or you're the child of same-sex parents.

[Anonymous User]

Is this open to LGBT allies?

1. No one will ask you if you are LGBT.

2. People will assume you are LGBT.

3. Attending as an ally is fine, but, to the extent you say you are not LGBT, people will expect you to be able to articulate some connection to LGBT issues. For example, you were an intern at HRC, or you've worked on LGBT asylum cases in law school, or you co-founded your high school's GSA, or you're the child of same-sex parents.

Awesome. I worked in several special interest groups devoted to LGBT rights and also worked on several political campaigns with LGBT candidates.

[Anonymous User]

when you show up at the firm for your cb, do the people there know you're the gay candidate, or do you just magically show up in the pile and nobody is the wiser?

[Anonymous User]

Is it possible to get CBs at firms that already dinged you during your school's OCI?

Yes. This happened to someone I know well. Dinged through mass mail, dinged again at OCI, CB from LavLaw and now working there.

Anyone have tips on how to approach someone at LavLaw from a firm that dinged you at OCI?

[Anonymous User]

when you show up at the firm for your cb, do the people there know you're the gay candidate, or do you just magically show up in the pile and nobody is the wiser?

Recruiting knows. Interviewers won't know if it isn't obvious from your resume (unless they're involved in recruiting beyond just interviewing). Recruiting is very likely to pair you with at least one gay attorney, however.

[Anonymous User]

Is it possible to get CBs at firms that already dinged you during your school's OCI?

Yes. This happened to someone I know well. Dinged through mass mail, dinged again at OCI, CB from LavLaw and now working there.

Anyone have tips on how to approach someone at LavLaw from a firm that dinged you at OCI?

I would just pretend it never happened and don't mention it. But you could joke about it, too. No big deal either way. It's really about another shot at making a great impression on the interviewer.

[Anonymous User]

when you show up at the firm for your cb, do the people there know you're the gay candidate, or do you just magically show up in the pile and nobody is the wiser?

Recruiting knows. Interviewers won't know if it isn't obvious from your resume (unless they're involved in recruiting beyond just interviewing). Recruiting is very likely to pair you with at least one gay attorney, however.

Also, a firm I did a cb with, you could request to meet with attorneys from certain "affinity groups" Black, gay, female, whatever.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone have experience with on-site registration? Do they actually turn people away? I just realized it was no longer possible to register online. I won't be in New York until night on Wednesday, so I wouldn't be able to attempt to register until Thursday morning.

[Anonymous User]

Any Lav Law CBs?

[Anonymous User]

The most I've gotten is a confirmation that they're reviewing my information. One or two places explicitly told me that they wouldn't be making any decisions for a few weeks, but most gave a generic "we'll be in touch." Can anyone speak to the timeline here, or how it might be different from OCI?

[Anonymous User]

The most I've gotten is a confirmation that they're reviewing my information. One or two places explicitly told me that they wouldn't be making any decisions for a few weeks, but most gave a generic "we'll be in touch." Can anyone speak to the timeline here, or how it might be different from OCI?

Much slower. At least a week to hear back from most places, and many may call you in for the equivalent of a screener rather than a CB.

[Anonymous User]

Received a CB yesterday from the career fair