HLS EIP 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

So what should I do if I want DC?

3P/5H/2DS

You have a very good shot at all the top DC firms with the possible exception of W&C (I would still bid there though) . I wouldn't push your appellate interest too hard. Generally appellate groups are very much in demand from associates and are competitive to get into.

[Anonymous User]

Does having Ps both semesters in LRW materially hurt my chances for litigation jobs? Grades are pretty good otherwise.

I'm going to skip the D.C. questions as I'm not too knowledgeable about that market, beyond what I already posted and my sense that anyone who isn't significantly above median should be strategic when it comes to bidding D.C. Hopefully someone familiar with the D.C. market can be more helpful.

With respect to Ps in LRW: I don't think it's going to materially hurt you if your grades are solid otherwise. I think that, while LRW might be slightly more important to litigation firms, it's not significantly more important and isn't going to give you any result disproportionate to your overall grades. How are your grades?

I have Hs in everything else

I'm on the fence about lit/corporate right now so I was thinking I may as well package myself as being interested in corporate if that gives me a better shot.

Not at all. I had Ps in both semesters of LRW and still got double digits offers from DC firms (including Quinn, which only does litigation) while expressing interest in litigation and regulatory. And you had better grades then me.

[Anonymous User]

Also wanting DC but grades are not nearly as good. 4H/6P. K-JD. I think I'm a pretty good interviewer FWIW.

Thanks so much in advance for anyone's help. I'll try to repay the favor as much as possible.

Your grades should be fine. It'll come down to your interviewing. I would stay away from Covington and W&C (and you'll definitely have a lower chance at Hogan, Gibson, Wilmer, A&P, Kirkland, etc. - don't waste too many bids on these firms, just pick the ones you especially like) . Look for firms that have relatively larger class sizes but lower grade cutoffs. A couple that spring to mind are Wiley, Steptoe, Crowell, and maybe Cleary. I would also sprinkle in maybe 8-10 NYC bids.

[lameslice57]

I know there's really no standard answer to this but with what grades does bidding DC (even the moderately and less selective firms) generally become hopeless? Have strong ties and good interview skills but not sure if it's worth targeting with below median grades.

I know people with one or two Hs that had multiple DC offers at good market paying firms. It comes down to interviewing and your resume. So it's not hopeless but definitely have a safety market like New York.

[Anonymous User]

Grades necessary for Quinn? Especially Quinn DC?

Posted above, but I had 6 Hs and got an offer.

[Anonymous User]

how about URM w/ WE, good interviewing, ties to DC/NY and HYP UG; 1DS/5H/4P - DC/NY litigation

bump - advice about either city would be much appreciated!

I had almost the same stats as you minus HYP undergrad last year and got callbacks at almost every NYC v10 I interviewed with and got double digit DC offers. If you are a competent interviewee, you'll probably do very well.

[Anonymous User]

Want LA lit, don't want NYC, 3H in LRW and CivPro, rest Ps, WE, undergrad and grad school in LA (7 years total)

Bump since on bottom of last page. Also, considering splitting with 5-10 Boston firms. Only tie beyond school is my gf, who grew up in MA.

[Anonymous User]

Ideally Boston, but New York is an option too. No professional ties to Boston (just law school here), some personal ones. Would prefer transactional.

5P/4H/1DS, 1 yr w/e, non-URM, mediocre interviewer.

Appreciate any info/advice you guys can give me.

[Anonymous User]

Want LA lit, don't want NYC, 3H in LRW and CivPro, rest Ps, WE, undergrad and grad school in LA (7 years total)

Bump since on bottom of last page. Also, considering splitting with 5-10 Boston firms. Only tie beyond school is my gf, who grew up in MA.

You have strong ties to LA, you should be okay.

Edit: After discussing with someone else, I just want to say that you should be careful, LA can still be tough and you are not guaranteed an offer with 3Hs, even with strong ties. Be sure to have a backup plan.

[Anonymous User]

Just got my 1L grades back. H in Property, H in Contracts, H in an elective, Ps in everything else. How will I fare at EIP this year?

[ph14]

Just got my 1L grades back. H in Property, H in Contracts, H in an elective, Ps in everything else. How will I fare at EIP this year?

What market are you targeting, what are your ties, how are your interview skills, and is there anything else material to your candidacy?

[Anonymous User]

Just got my 1L grades back. H in Property, H in Contracts, H in an elective, Ps in everything else. How will I fare at EIP this year?

What market are you targeting, what are your ties, how are your interview skills, and is there anything else material to your candidacy?

Targeting NYC and Boston, ties to neither, interview skills are pretty good, K-JD. I have a ton of extracurrics on my resume that are pretty substantial (but don't want to list them here)

[Anonymous User]

Also wanting DC but grades are not nearly as good. 4H/6P. K-JD. I think I'm a pretty good interviewer FWIW.

Thanks so much in advance for anyone's help. I'll try to repay the favor as much as possible.

Had worser grades and K-JD as well (nothing outstanding on resume). Bid all DC, got 10 CB's and like 6 offers.

Having said that, I consider myself to be a good interviewer and I did close to 40 screeners so keep that in mind.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know of specific firms that have given offers to people with one LP in the past couple years?

[Anonymous User]

Rising 3L here thinking of doing 3L EIP. Not that I dont like my current firm but wanna keep all options open.

Was median/slightly below median last year after 1L yr, but had a very very good 2L year in terms of grades.

Anyone with insight on likelihood of success at a DC firm?

[Anonymous User]

With 8H/2P, do my grades matter? As in, would they be fine at pretty much every firm and the callback/offer process would just come down to interviewing?

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[Anonymous User]

Also wanting DC but grades are not nearly as good. 4H/6P. K-JD. I think I'm a pretty good interviewer FWIW.

Thanks so much in advance for anyone's help. I'll try to repay the favor as much as possible.

Had worser grades and K-JD as well (nothing outstanding on resume). Bid all DC, got 10 CB's and like 6 offers.

Having said that, I consider myself to be a good interviewer and I did close to 40 screeners so keep that in mind.

Great to hear. Were you successful at all with the decently selective firms (Wilmer, Gibson, Hogan, etc.?) Or did all of the CB's come from other firms?

[Anonymous User]

Also wanting DC but grades are not nearly as good. 4H/6P. K-JD. I think I'm a pretty good interviewer FWIW.

Thanks so much in advance for anyone's help. I'll try to repay the favor as much as possible.

Had worser grades and K-JD as well (nothing outstanding on resume). Bid all DC, got 10 CB's and like 6 offers.

Having said that, I consider myself to be a good interviewer and I did close to 40 screeners so keep that in mind.

Great to hear. Were you successful at all with the decently selective firms (Wilmer, Gibson, Hogan, etc.?) Or did all of the CB's come from other firms?

OP here, actually no.

Kinda but not really. I didn't get any of the ones you mentioned. Most of my cb's were from lower DC firms (think of the vault guide DC region rankings and look at the firms ranked 15 or lower).

[Anonymous User]

2DS 3H 5P interested in miami with 1L SA in smaller marker. What are my chances? URM by the way

[ph14]

Also if you didn't see, the EIP statistics from prior years are up (password protected): https://www.law.harvard.edu/current/car ... index.html

[Anonymous User]

Want LA lit, don't want NYC, 3H in LRW and CivPro, rest Ps, WE, undergrad and grad school in LA (7 years total)

Bump since on bottom of last page. Also, considering splitting with 5-10 Boston firms. Only tie beyond school is my gf, who grew up in MA.

You have strong ties to LA, you should be okay.

Edit: After discussing with someone else, I just want to say that you should be careful, LA can still be tough and you are not guaranteed an offer with 3Hs, even with strong ties. Be sure to have a backup plan.

Right. I figure MTO is out, and Irell and GDC long shots. I think OMM is still a plausible goal. 2-4 H's is that scary range where things can go really well or really poorly. Hoping my summer internship out here also gives me a boost for lit. Still leaning going all-in on LA/OC (ties there as well).

[Anonymous User]

how about URM w/ WE, good interviewing, ties to DC/NY and HYP UG; 1DS/5H/4P - DC/NY litigation

bump - advice about either city would be much appreciated!

I had almost the same stats as you minus HYP undergrad last year and got callbacks at almost every NYC v10 I interviewed with and got double digit DC offers. If you are a competent interviewee, you'll probably do very well.

Where'd you strike out?

[Anonymous User]

how about URM w/ WE, good interviewing, ties to DC/NY and HYP UG; 1DS/5H/4P - DC/NY litigation

bump - advice about either city would be much appreciated!

I had almost the same stats as you minus HYP undergrad last year and got callbacks at almost every NYC v10 I interviewed with and got double digit DC offers. If you are a competent interviewee, you'll probably do very well.

Where'd you strike out?

As in, what firms did I not get that I wanted?

[Anonymous User]

As in, what firms did I not get that I wanted?

Yes