Effect of no 1L summer job? Forum

[rickgrimes69]

Anybody else think this is the same guy that was gunning for BIGWESTVIRGINIAPUBLICINTEREST with no ties to the region?

Can't find the link atm but that thread was a goldmine.

same guy, lol.

eta: if you're from wv, sorry if i offended you by calling it a "podunk, flyover state", rick.

Not from there so no offense taken. I'm just lol'ing at how predictable that outcome was.

[BlueLotus]

Anybody else think this is the same guy that was gunning for BIGWESTVIRGINIAPUBLICINTEREST with no ties to the region?

Can't find the link atm but that thread was a goldmine.

same guy, lol.

eta: if you're from wv, sorry if i offended you by calling it a "podunk, flyover state", rick.

Not from there so no offense taken. I'm just lol'ing at how predictable that outcome was.

yeah, he's pretty much given up on wv. too insular of a market. hell, you need ties to get to philly or atlanta.

[brotherdarkness]

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[BlueLotus]

Is this non-profit doing anything remotely related to legal work? If it was he should just ask like that was his plan all along.

sorta. it's a historical preservation law -related nonprofit.

also, i'd hardly say he missed the "2L boat"...believe it or not, public interest hiring is still in full swing. so are small firms.

public interest 2L hiring has barely even started. I haven't even reviewed resumes yet and won't be done for another month or two.

Just stress the legal aspects of the non-profit on the resume. Honestly if I were reviewing his resume I would view it as a plus. He should get involved in clinics/volunteer work regardless.

It's also not entirely unheard of to not have a summer legal job. I had a couple friends who didn't do one (they were weirdos who did their own thing in law school). There are people who just don't find anything; rare, but it happens. In PI it's not a complete deal breaker but honestly that person would get grilled extra hard in an interview because I would want to know why that person didn't have offers and also probably rely on their references more.

what happened to the "weirdos" postgrad? did the find a FTLT jerb?

[worldtraveler]

Is this non-profit doing anything remotely related to legal work? If it was he should just ask like that was his plan all along.

sorta. it's a historical preservation law -related nonprofit.

also, i'd hardly say he missed the "2L boat"...believe it or not, public interest hiring is still in full swing. so are small firms.

public interest 2L hiring has barely even started. I haven't even reviewed resumes yet and won't be done for another month or two.

Just stress the legal aspects of the non-profit on the resume. Honestly if I were reviewing his resume I would view it as a plus. He should get involved in clinics/volunteer work regardless.

It's also not entirely unheard of to not have a summer legal job. I had a couple friends who didn't do one (they were weirdos who did their own thing in law school). There are people who just don't find anything; rare, but it happens. In PI it's not a complete deal breaker but honestly that person would get grilled extra hard in an interview because I would want to know why that person didn't have offers and also probably rely on their references more.

what happened to the "weirdos" postgrad? did the find a FTLT jerb?

They did but they also went to a T10 and either had stellar grades, connections, or both, so I think it was more of that situation enabled them to be weirdos when it came to job searching.

[BlueLotus]

were they JD required jerbs? or at least JD advantage?

[sd5289]

You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.

Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).

[BlueLotus]

You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.

Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).

yeah, unfortunately, his goal is rather amorphous--i.e. ed reform. he eventually wants to run for office.

[rickgrimes69]

You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.

Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).

yeah, unfortunately, his goal is rather amorphous--i.e. ed reform. he eventually wants to run for office.

Wasn't his whole schtick about "bringing civilization to the poor, uneducated masses of WVa"? Yeah, that'll play well in Peoria.

[BlueLotus]

You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.

Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).

yeah, unfortunately, his goal is rather amorphous--i.e. ed reform. he eventually wants to run for office.

Wasn't his whole schtick about "bringing civilization to the poor, uneducated masses of WVa"? Yeah, that'll play well in Peoria.

he was interested in ed reform in wv, not in those words, but in a general sense, yes...and then the brick walls happened, predictably.

[stillwater]

that always plays well: i am here to civilize you and your savage brethren.

[BlueLotus]

Update: he is still not jerbed for the summer.

[sd5289]

Update: he is still not jerbed for the summer.

I overheard a few 2LOL's mentioning they were still not jerbed for this summer a few days ago. I think I'd be having a meltdown at this point if I was in their shoes.

[rad lulz]

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[BlueLotus]

Yeah, I told him to just start calling up legal aid places and asking if they're taking volunteers for the summer.

[worldtraveler]

Has he applied to things or just waited until now?

[hichvichwoh]

well, I didn't get my 1L gig until the end of April, but i was pretty much the last person among my friends to find something. I'm sure you've already done this, but you need to tell your friend that he cannot afford to be selective about anything at this point.

[BlueLotus]

Has he applied to things or just waited until now?

he has not applied to places at all.

[BlueLotus]

Perhaps I should change the title to " Effect of no 1L AND 2L Summer Jerb". -__-

[A. Nony Mouse]

This person just doesn't really want to be a lawyer.

[BlueLotus]

This person just doesn't really want to be a lawyer.

I've pretty much given up on him. I hand-picked a jerb for him last summer through connections and he did not take it.

[ymmv]

Anybody else think this is the same guy that was gunning for BIGWESTVIRGINIAPUBLICINTEREST with no ties to the region?

Can't find the link atm but that thread was a goldmine.

same guy, lol.

eta: if you're from wv, sorry if i offended you by calling it a "podunk, flyover state", rick.

Not from there so no offense taken. I'm just lol'ing at how predictable that outcome was.

yeah, he's pretty much given up on wv. too insular of a market. hell, you need ties to get to philly or atlanta.

Why the fuck would anyone want to target WV unless they had really compelling ties anyway.

[BlueLotus]

^he needs to "civilize" those toothless hillbillies!

[Anonymous User]

I contracted mono during my 1L summer and was out 2-3 months, therefore, I had to give up my internship and have no experience for 1L summer on my resume. How do I compensate for that for 2L summer?

[Anonymous User]

I contracted mono during my 1L summer and was out 2-3 months, therefore, I had to give up my internship and have no experience for 1L summer on my resume. How do I compensate for that for 2L summer?

What are you looking at for 2L summer?

Are you in a clinic or internship this semester so you can get practical experience?