GW OCI 2012 Forum

[TNFSkier16]

How do transfers tend to fair at GW OCI?

I was just accepted yesterday. I'm transferring from a lower T2 so I assume my options will be much better here.

[Anonymous User]

Any idea when journals get back? Mass mail before knowing?
rocksteady and bebop

[Anonymous User]

Market(s): DC, NYC, NC (ties)
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): 1LE Lower Thurgood
Law review (Y/N): N
Work experience (Y/N): Y
IP background (Y/N): Y, chem no Ph.D
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): No.
Screening Interviews:
2/2 PA Regional
0/1 NY Regional
14/35 FRP, +1 walk-in interview with a market-paying boutique, screeners included a V10, a V15, 3 V50's, 2 V100's
0/7 Resume Collect
Mass mails:0
Callbacks received: 5 so far, 1 V10, 1 V30, 1 V50-75, 2 market-paying boutiques. One boutique remains to be heard from (late screener).
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 V25-V30.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent: Based on gut, both post-screener and post-CB. No thank-you emails to V10 post CB and was rejected. Sent thank-you e mails to V30 post CB, offer. Sent emails to V50-75 post CB, rejected.

That's right. Top third + IP at GW gets you V25-30.

GW IP SECURE FTW

[dood]

GW 3L here - post information more akin to the "form" below, rather than paragraphs. It is easier to read.

Thanks, modified it for now. Will update with the rest of the stuff when it comes to that time.

Market(s): DC (Gov. Ks); NY (no ties); LA (strong ties)
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): GW (lower end)
Law review (Y/N): not available yet
Work experience (Y/N): Yes, 2 and 1/2 years WE, but nothing special - mostly government work; doing judicial internship this summer
IP background (Y/N): No
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): No, not really.

Applying to the lower DC firms, especially ones with Gov K practices. Also, do I have a shot at Arnold & Porter (NY)? Linklaters (NY)? Kaye Scholer (NY?) WilmerHale (DC)? Also is it a complete waste of a bid to apply to one of the government positions even if you really want it?

no shot at listed firms whatsoever. stick with ur first plan -> lower DC firms with gov. Ks.

Thanks dood. That helps me narrow my list. What about gov. positions? US GAO, JAG, etc.?

Dreamcatcher.

not sure, i only did firms, but u should look at lower nalp 250 firms like maybe weily, dickstein, fox rothschild, mckenna, crowell, dykema, drinker, etc - some of those might even be a stretch, but i would also direct mail ALL firms with gov. K practices and CLEARLY indicating how much u love gov Ks + ANY possible relevant gov work + gov K journal?

[dudders]

Any idea when journals get back? Mass mail before knowing?
rocksteady and bebop

Portal says:
All students selected for membership on one of GW's eight journals will be contacted by telephone between July 14-15, 2012. If your journal is unable to reach you by telephone, you will receive an email from a staff member by 11:59 p.m. on July 15, 2012 to notify you of your membership invitation.

Students who successfully submitted competitions but were not selected for journal membership will also receive a notification email on July 14, 2012.

[Anonymous User]

Market(s): NY (Strong ties), Philadelphia (Strong ties), New Jersey (Strong ties), North Carolina and other southern states (Weak ties)
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): Transfer student -- Top 10% at old school
Law review (Y/N): N
Work experience (Y/N): Nothing other than a 1L Summer Associateship at a big law firm
IP background (Y/N): Y - Biology
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): Lots of undergrad research, totally awesome personality
Screening Interviews: 13 (OCI + FRP)
Mass mails:
Callbacks received:
Callbacks accepted:
Offers w/vault ranges:
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent:

Strategy: Avoiding DC altogether outside of a few IP firms.

Will update this as I (hopefully) get some interviews.

[Anonymous User]

updated below

[Anonymous User]

not sure, i only did firms, but u should look at lower nalp 250 firms like maybe weily, dickstein, fox rothschild, mckenna, crowell, dykema, drinker, etc - some of those might even be a stretch, but i would also direct mail ALL firms with gov. K practices and CLEARLY indicating how much u love gov Ks + ANY possible relevant gov work + gov K journal?

I did end up getting Gov K Journal. Interning at Court of Federal Claims in the fall. Worked in government/regulatory area before law school but it was in an unrelated area so not sure how much help it will be. Judicial internship this summer. I know it will be tough, but crossing my fingers and bidding hometown market as well.

Dreamcatcher.

[Anonymous User]

Update when more info comes

Market(s): D.C., SF/ Palo Alto (ties),SoCal, Delaware, and Phili(I am spreading myself all over).
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median):Transfer
Law review (Y/N): Secondary Journal
Work experience (Y/N): Y
IP background (Y/N):N
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): Legal work experience
Screening Interviews:
Mass mails:
Callbacks received:
Callbacks accepted:
Offers w/vault ranges:
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent:

[Anonymous User]

To "Jack":

If you are IP and you have the very helpful kind of degree (mechanical or electrical) and legit WE (e.g., worked at Qualcomm, Motorola, AMD, or at USPTO) you should actually feel pretty good about getting initial screeners.

IP folks tend to do fairly well if they have the minimum grades of at least Thurgood.

~TheOtherWhiteMeat

[Anonymous User]

TTTT -> GWU transfer here, rank #1 at former school

Market(s): SoCal (strong ties); NorCal (weak ties); DC (going to school here only); overseas
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): rank #1 at former school
Law review (Y/N): invite at prior school, no at GW
Work experience (Y/N): Y, 1L summer at a patent firm
IP background (Y/N): Y
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really):
Screening Interviews:
Mass mails:
Callbacks received:
Callbacks accepted:
Offers w/vault ranges:
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent:

[Anonymous User]

Updated 8/18

Market(s): DC (strong ties), NY (weak ties)
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): GW - about top 10% according to NALP
Law review (Y/N): Yes
Work experience (Y/N): 5 years WE @ law firm
IP background (Y/N): N
Anything else that might have an impact?: Charming personality!
DC Screening Interviews: 24/35
NY Regional Screening Interviews: 11/13
NY Callbacks received: 6 (3 dings; 2 outstanding)
DC Callbacks received: 2 (in progress)
Offers w/vault ranges:
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent:

Godspeed,
Bose Companion

[Anonymous User]

To "Jack":

If you are IP and you have the very helpful kind of degree (mechanical or electrical) and legit WE (e.g., worked at Qualcomm, Motorola, AMD, or at USPTO) you should actually feel pretty good about getting initial screeners.

IP folks tend to do fairly well if they have the minimum grades of at least Thurgood.

~TheOtherWhiteMeat

Chem. WE is okay but not great. Additionally, USPTO internship, Fed Circuit internship.

[Anonymous User]

NY and Philly is out. 9/13 in NY.

GW Scholar (low end). 2+ years WE.

Still pretty surprised I got that many.

[Anonymous User]

NY posted. 11/13 preselects (fell out of my chair). Updated profile below.

Bose Companion

[Anonymous User]

Relieved that I got a few interviews, I had a rough second semester. Here's hoping for some CBs and offers

[Anonymous User]

Market(s): DC (Ties), NYC, Phila (Ties), Richmond (Ties), Boston.
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median):Transfer (10% - TT)
Law review (Y/N): Secondary Journal
Work experience (Y/N): Y
IP background (Y/N):N
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): 2 years legal exp.
Screening Interviews: 8 Philly, 8 GW OCI, 2 FRP Resume Drops
Mass mails:
Callbacks received:
Callbacks accepted:
Offers w/vault ranges:
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent:

Update as we go along.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else love how the info in the GW FRP packet is beyond useless? Specifically the firm numbers. At a glance it looks good, but they only give you the No. of Bids/No. of Interviews. No info on CBs or offers. You know this is by choice, too, since I know of folks at other schools who have this information. Believe it or not, I'm much more interested in the CB/offer rate than the bid/pre-select rate.

TL; DR: Anyone know where to find GW OCI's CB/Offer numbers?

[dudders]

TL; DR: Anyone know where to find GW OCI's CB/Offer numbers?

They don't exist. School doesn't track this information.

[Anonymous User]

TL; DR: Anyone know where to find GW OCI's CB/Offer numbers?

They don't exist. School doesn't track this information.

Wow. Really no excuse not to. We're already a year in, why not show us the grim stats? Because they might fall into the hands of 0Ls I guess...

[Anonymous User]

Jack updated.

[Anonymous User]

Market(s): DC (ties); NY
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): middle of GW
Law review (Y/N): Yes
Work experience (Y/N): Some/Little
IP background (Y/N): No
FRP Screening Interviews (DC): 26
NY Regional Screening Interviews: 10
Resume Drop Screening Interviews: 2
Mass-Mail Screening Interviews:
Call-backs received by region: 12(DC); 4(NY)
Call-backs accepted by region: 7(DC); 3(NY)
Offers w/ vault ranges: 1(V10); 1(V15); 3(V50); 3(V75)
Firms w/ no-response - named and shamed:
Thank-you notes sent: none

*RandomSig*


Edit: Decided to take the V15 DC

Advice for future students doing OCI: do the NY Regional (13 bids, 10 Screeners, 4CBs and 3 offers)

[Anonymous User]

Joining the fray:

Market(s): DC, NY, CHI, LA
Approximate class rank (GW/Thurgood/Median): GW
Law review (Y/N): Yes
Work experience (Y/N): Moderate. 2 years as a paralegal. Many more as a web designer.
IP background (Y/N): Sort of. Studied neuroscience / biology at the UG level, no graduate degrees. Eligible for patent bar.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): Kind of a super URM (further details would identify), and trilingual.
FRP Screening Interviews (DC): 33
NY Regional Screening Interviews: 10
PHI Regional Screening Interviews: N/A
Diversity Fair Screening Interviews: 25
Mass-Mail Screening Interviews: 11
Call-backs received by region: 6 (NYC) 1 (LA) 24 (DC)
Call-backs accepted by region: 4 (NYC) 1 (LA) 13 (DC)
Offers w/ vault ranges: 1 V10, 6 V25, 2 V50
Firms w/ no-response - named and shamed:
Thank-you notes sent: Not a single one.

-M

Update 9/6: Offers.

[KidStuddi]

Slightly offtopic, but if there's anyone interested in carpooling from D.C. / splitting a hotel room for the NYC regional feel free to PM me.

[Anonymous User]

Five days... I am on pins and needles.