Which elite firms offer the best chance at making partner? Forum

[rayiner]

getting to an elite firm is 100% based on your grades and how much of a grinder you are in law school

becoming partner requires a totally different set of skills. namely, you have to be an alpha bro over 6' tall with a great smile and social skills. hth

I'm sure you're joking, but I've only met a handful of partners who were alpha "bros". This isn't i-banking where you want some hotshot to make up some crazy financing instrument. The executive committee at my firm are "your dad" types: stern, nose to the grindstone folks. Social, but in a "commands the room" sort of way, not a "nailing bitches" sort of way.

[Julio_El_Chavo]

getting to an elite firm is 100% based on your grades and how much of a grinder you are in law school

becoming partner requires a totally different set of skills. namely, you have to be an alpha bro over 6' tall with a great smile and social skills. hth

I'm sure you're joking, but I've only met a handful of partners who were alpha "bros". This isn't i-banking where you want some hotshot to make up some crazy financing instrument. The executive committee at my firm are "your dad" types: stern, nose to the grindstone folks. Social, but in a "commands the room" sort of way, not a "nailing bitches" sort of way.

The "nailing bitches" types become the "commands the room" types later in life. HTH

[Renzo]

getting to an elite firm is 100% based on your grades and how much of a grinder you are in law school

becoming partner requires a totally different set of skills. namely, you have to be an alpha bro over 6' tall with a great smile and social skills. hth

I'm sure you're joking, but I've only met a handful of partners who were alpha "bros". This isn't i-banking where you want some hotshot to make up some crazy financing instrument. The executive committee at my firm are "your dad" types: stern, nose to the grindstone folks. Social, but in a "commands the room" sort of way, not a "nailing bitches" sort of way.

The "nailing bitches" types become the "commands the room" types later in life. HTH

Generally not true. That's what they tell themselves early in life, though. HTH.

[Julio_El_Chavo]

getting to an elite firm is 100% based on your grades and how much of a grinder you are in law school

becoming partner requires a totally different set of skills. namely, you have to be an alpha bro over 6' tall with a great smile and social skills. hth

I'm sure you're joking, but I've only met a handful of partners who were alpha "bros". This isn't i-banking where you want some hotshot to make up some crazy financing instrument. The executive committee at my firm are "your dad" types: stern, nose to the grindstone folks. Social, but in a "commands the room" sort of way, not a "nailing bitches" sort of way.

The "nailing bitches" types become the "commands the room" types later in life. HTH

Generally not true. That's what they tell themselves early in life, though. HTH.

cite authority please

[Renzo]

cite authority please

Where do you think homeless people come from? Haven't you ever wondered why the age demographics of bums and fratty doods don't overlap?

[Julio_El_Chavo]

cite authority please

Where do you think homeless people come from? Haven't you ever wondered why the age demographics of bums and fratty doods don't overlap?

thank you

[rayiner]

getting to an elite firm is 100% based on your grades and how much of a grinder you are in law school

becoming partner requires a totally different set of skills. namely, you have to be an alpha bro over 6' tall with a great smile and social skills. hth

I'm sure you're joking, but I've only met a handful of partners who were alpha "bros". This isn't i-banking where you want some hotshot to make up some crazy financing instrument. The executive committee at my firm are "your dad" types: stern, nose to the grindstone folks. Social, but in a "commands the room" sort of way, not a "nailing bitches" sort of way.

The "nailing bitches" types become the "commands the room" types later in life. HTH

I'm not talking about Bill Clinton "works a room" but rather Dwight D. Eisenhower "commands a room."

Also, for the counter example to your claim see George W. Bush.

[supernma]

Look for low leverage, and firms that don't go to the lateral partner market very often.

other than Wachtell and W&C are there any more?

Quinn

[84651846190]

Look for low leverage, and firms that don't go to the lateral partner market very often.

other than Wachtell and W&C are there any more?

Quinn

literally crying from laughter right now

[supernma]

Look for low leverage, and firms that don't go to the lateral partner market very often.

other than Wachtell and W&C are there any more?

Quinn

literally crying from laughter right now

why

[DamnLSAT]

Because it's the law firm run by the guy from ace ventura of course

[84651846190]

other than Wachtell and W&C are there any more?

Quinn

literally crying from laughter right now

why

Because Quinn is 1) over-leveraged, 2) hiring quite a bit recently from the lateral partner market and 3) a terrible place to try to make partner.

[itbdvorm]

Because Quinn is 1) over-leveraged, 2) hiring quite a bit recently from the lateral partner market and 3) a terrible place to try to make partner.

Agreed on all fronts.

[Nightrunner]

Look for low leverage, and firms that don't go to the lateral partner market very often.

other than Wachtell and W&C are there any more?

Quinn

You are a 0L. Please stop shitting up the Employment forum.

See: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=189981

[Anonymous User]

surprised no one mentioned Susman Godfrey yet

They are actually reverse leveraged. 60 partners/40 associates last time I checked. Plus the partnership track is only 6 years and over the last couple of years every associate who has been up for partner has made it. It seems like this might be the only firm where if you can get in the door and can last through the 6 years, you'll make partner.

[dw3]

surprised no one mentioned Susman Godfrey yet

They are actually reverse leveraged. 60 partners/40 associates last time I checked. Plus the partnership track is only 6 years and over the last couple of years every associate who has been up for partner has made it. It seems like this might be the only firm where if you can get in the door and can last through the 6 years, you'll make partner.

Solid. PPP there is super high too right?

[anon168]

Can't provide a meaningful answer unless you first define "partner".

Don't sneer. It's actually harder than you think, especially for those of you still in law school.

[Old Gregg]

Can't provide a meaningful answer unless you first define "partner".

Don't sneer. It's actually harder than you think, especially for those of you still in law school.

Doesn't even matter. This thread is laughable even before we get into that debate.

If we thought making partner was bad now, it is worse than it was a few years ago, and it's going to get even worse when these guys are up for it.

Big firm economics, even at the elite level, are changing drastically. Partners are getting pushed out, more and more associates are joining a growing second tier of equity partnership, and firms are looking to promote less from within as they look to grow PPP.

[anon168]

Can't provide a meaningful answer unless you first define "partner".

Don't sneer. It's actually harder than you think, especially for those of you still in law school.

Doesn't even matter. This thread is laughable even before we get into that debate.

If we thought making partner was bad now, it is worse than it was a few years ago, and it's going to get even worse when these guys are up for it.

Big firm economics, even at the elite level, are changing drastically. Partners are getting pushed out, more and more associates are joining a growing second tier of equity partnership, and firms are looking to promote less from within as they look to grow PPP.

Actually, it does. For the very reason you cited in your last paragraph.

[rad lulz]

,