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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by chicagolaw2013 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:23 pm

Lawquacious wrote:Repo man made the list of top 10 most stable jobs in NY. :lol:
Lol at the pic of "repo man". Totally looks like grand theft auto to me.

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by Skit50 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:16 am

General Tso wrote:
Agree 100%. Many of the college/starting salary articles you see floating around the web are completely bogus. Eg) all of the Yahoo articles claiming engineers make 65k on average to start. That may be true for engineers coming out of T20 undergrads who landed competitive internships, but for the other 90% of engineers it is more like 35-45k.

And like you say, libarts grads are faring far worse.
uhhh...what?

I'd say 65k sounds about right, maybe not if you work in the middle of nowhere. I went to a pretty good UG, but never had an internship. 35k-40k is way off.

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by General Tso » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:43 am

Skit50 wrote:
uhhh...what?

I'd say 65k sounds about right, maybe not if you work in the middle of nowhere. I went to a pretty good UG, but never had an internship. 35k-40k is way off.
is Fremont 'the middle of nowhere'?

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by Skit50 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:43 pm

Fremont...California? If so, I am from around there. Entry level engineers in the Bay Area should make >60k.
General Tso wrote: Agree 100%. Many of the college/starting salary articles you see floating around the web are completely bogus. Eg) all of the Yahoo articles claiming engineers make 65k on average to start. That may be true for engineers coming out of T20 undergrads who landed competitive internships, but for the other 90% of engineers it is more like 35-45k.
Sure, I attended a T20 undergrad, but graduated with <3.0 GPA, and never had an internship.

Regardless of my UG, your assertion is way off. I'm confused really...where are you getting 35-45k? Assuming you have some anecdotal evidence (which I doubt), this is not the norm. I do not know what the exact average starting salary is, but 65k cannot be too far off in larger cities.

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by General Tso » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:13 am

Skit50 wrote:Fremont...California? If so, I am from around there. Entry level engineers in the Bay Area should make >60k.
General Tso wrote: Agree 100%. Many of the college/starting salary articles you see floating around the web are completely bogus. Eg) all of the Yahoo articles claiming engineers make 65k on average to start. That may be true for engineers coming out of T20 undergrads who landed competitive internships, but for the other 90% of engineers it is more like 35-45k.
Sure, I attended a T20 undergrad, but graduated with <3.0 GPA, and never had an internship.

Regardless of my UG, your assertion is way off. I'm confused really...where are you getting 35-45k? Assuming you have some anecdotal evidence (which I doubt), this is not the norm. I do not know what the exact average starting salary is, but 65k cannot be too far off in larger cities.
I am sure if you manage to get a job with a large company you will get 60k+. That's the trick though...getting your foot in the door is tough, especially in saturated fields like EE.

2 MSEEs from UC Davis at my g/f's work can't find anything, and are working there part time.

My impression is that the supply of top silicon valley company, entry level EE jobs is so low that they can be filled almost exclusively by Berkeley, Stanford, or T20 graduates such as yourself. TTT UGs like my g/f need not apply. It's all good...my g/f will be entering a new field in the next few years.

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by Skit50 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:19 pm

hmm, interesting.

I agree that the hard part can potentially be getting your foot in the door, but once you land a (full-time) job, salary should be pretty standard. While I'm sure your 90% working party-time at 35-45k figure is a bit exaggerated, I am surprised to learn that such qualified people have been relegated to part-time work. I would hardly consider Davis a bad school, especially in the Bay Area market.

I recently left California after UG, but am now interested to see how my brother does, who just graduated from the same school I did. Good luck to your gf.

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by General Tso » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:10 pm

Skit50 wrote:hmm, interesting.

I agree that the hard part can potentially be getting your foot in the door, but once you land a (full-time) job, salary should be pretty standard. While I'm sure your 90% working party-time at 35-45k figure is a bit exaggerated, I am surprised to learn that such qualified people have been relegated to part-time work. I would hardly consider Davis a bad school, especially in the Bay Area market.

I recently left California after UG, but am now interested to see how my brother does, who just graduated from the same school I did. Good luck to your gf.
She doesn't have a strong desire to stick with engineering in the first place. She doesn't like the male-dominated culture and she has found that the day to day work of an EE is not that appealing to her.

I think it depends greatly on your field. Biomedical, mechanical, chemical, and civil all seem to be more marketable engineering degrees right now. The BLS predicts EE job growth rate to be zero or even negative over the next decade. For some reason foreign competition is having a disparate impact on EE.

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

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Re: Most stable job - lawyer!?!?

Post by General Tso » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:24 pm

which MA field Burger?

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