Thank you but I think you may still be underestimating how much stock people place on being able to say they live in NY or LA or DC. It is almost a substitute for a personality that people can don, and they will live with roommates in the Bronx for it.Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:27 pmI like NYC, but if the position is that biglaw shouldn’t pay associates enough to afford the median Manhattan apartment, and that associates should get roommates or live in non-LIC Queens or the Bronx… then Orlando guy wins the thread. It’s not worth living in NYC on a shoestring budget.
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I would 100% rather live in the Bronx or NJ and commute to NYC than live in a second rate city.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:06 pmThank you but I think you may still be underestimating how much stock people place on being able to say they live in NY or LA or DC. It is almost a substitute for a personality that people can don, and they will live with roommates in the Bronx for it.Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:27 pmI like NYC, but if the position is that biglaw shouldn’t pay associates enough to afford the median Manhattan apartment, and that associates should get roommates or live in non-LIC Queens or the Bronx… then Orlando guy wins the thread. It’s not worth living in NYC on a shoestring budget.
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I'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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As said, people place a premium on being a tri-state area resident even if the commute is an hour each way and underground. There is nothing major that NYC offers that a lot of these "second rate" cities do not. In Orlando's case, we have many options for live theater, multiple Michelin-starred restaurants (https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/articl ... elin-stars), award winning parks and museums, one of the country's finest tennis training centers (https://www.ustanationalcampus.com/en/home.html), and a growing literary scene with regular poetry and prose readings. Is any of this "world-class" or the best? No. But most people do not appreciate the best enough to put up with the downsides of that access (and the Mrs. and I get to NY every few months to enjoy "the best"). How many associates working 60+ hours a week go to Broadway weekly or go sailing up the Hudson 5+ times in the summer or make it to the famous public golf courses on Long Island (Bethpage, Montauk Downs) monthly?Moneytrees wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:53 pmI would 100% rather live in the Bronx or NJ and commute to NYC than live in a second rate city.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:06 pmThank you but I think you may still be underestimating how much stock people place on being able to say they live in NY or LA or DC. It is almost a substitute for a personality that people can don, and they will live with roommates in the Bronx for it.Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:27 pmI like NYC, but if the position is that biglaw shouldn’t pay associates enough to afford the median Manhattan apartment, and that associates should get roommates or live in non-LIC Queens or the Bronx… then Orlando guy wins the thread. It’s not worth living in NYC on a shoestring budget.
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Those of us in second rate cities won’t miss you.Moneytrees wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:53 pmI would 100% rather live in the Bronx or NJ and commute to NYC than live in a second rate city.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:06 pmThank you but I think you may still be underestimating how much stock people place on being able to say they live in NY or LA or DC. It is almost a substitute for a personality that people can don, and they will live with roommates in the Bronx for it.Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:27 pmI like NYC, but if the position is that biglaw shouldn’t pay associates enough to afford the median Manhattan apartment, and that associates should get roommates or live in non-LIC Queens or the Bronx… then Orlando guy wins the thread. It’s not worth living in NYC on a shoestring budget.
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I whole heartedly agree, John.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:15 pmAs said, people place a premium on being a tri-state area resident even if the commute is an hour each way and underground. There is nothing major that NYC offers that a lot of these "second rate" cities do not. In Orlando's case, we have many options for live theater, multiple Michelin-starred restaurants (https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/articl ... elin-stars), award winning parks and museums, one of the country's finest tennis training centers (https://www.ustanationalcampus.com/en/home.html), and a growing literary scene with regular poetry and prose readings. Is any of this "world-class" or the best? No. But most people do not appreciate the best enough to put up with the downsides of that access (and the Mrs. and I get to NY every few months to enjoy "the best"). How many associates working 60+ hours a week go to Broadway weekly or go sailing up the Hudson 5+ times in the summer or make it to the famous public golf courses on Long Island (Bethpage, Montauk Downs) monthly?Moneytrees wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:53 pmI would 100% rather live in the Bronx or NJ and commute to NYC than live in a second rate city.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:06 pmThank you but I think you may still be underestimating how much stock people place on being able to say they live in NY or LA or DC. It is almost a substitute for a personality that people can don, and they will live with roommates in the Bronx for it.Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:27 pmI like NYC, but if the position is that biglaw shouldn’t pay associates enough to afford the median Manhattan apartment, and that associates should get roommates or live in non-LIC Queens or the Bronx… then Orlando guy wins the thread. It’s not worth living in NYC on a shoestring budget.
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Not sure which part of this thread I’ve enjoyed the most. The “NY associates aren’t rich” argument, the “NY is superior” debate, or the user putting his cape on for Orlando. It’s all a gold mine
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I know which part I liked best.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:16 pmNot sure which part of this thread I’ve enjoyed the most. The “NY associates aren’t rich” argument, the “NY is superior” debate, or the user putting his cape on for Orlando. It’s all a gold mine
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aEImx74gLAAnonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:16 pmNot sure which part of this thread I’ve enjoyed the most. The “NY associates aren’t rich” argument, the “NY is superior” debate, or the user putting his cape on for Orlando. It’s all a gold mine
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If you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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Do you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pmIf you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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Right. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pmDo you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pmIf you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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Some of you have clearly never seen Arrested Development loljohndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:53 pmRight. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pmDo you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pmIf you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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? Seen all episodes and don’t catch the referenceSpider2YBanana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:22 amSome of you have clearly never seen Arrested Development loljohndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:53 pmRight. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pmDo you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pmIf you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/684d33aa-e ... a2a4464778johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:44 am? Seen all episodes and don’t catch the referenceSpider2YBanana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:22 amSome of you have clearly never seen Arrested Development loljohndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:53 pmRight. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pmDo you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pmIf you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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Thanks! Taking life cues from the Bluths isn’t recommended. I also don’t think posters obsessed with Cali/big city living would be up for the OC.TUwave wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:53 amhttps://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/684d33aa-e ... a2a4464778johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:44 am? Seen all episodes and don’t catch the referenceSpider2YBanana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:22 amSome of you have clearly never seen Arrested Development loljohndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:53 pmRight. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pmDo you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pmIf you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.Spider2YBanana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pmI'd rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.
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Aren’t you not a biglaw attorney? Why are you posting in this thread. Congrats on having a 3.4m house in Florida if that’s what your looking for.johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:07 amThanks! Taking life cues from the Bluths isn’t recommended. I also don’t think posters obsessed with Cali/big city living would be up for the OC.TUwave wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:53 amhttps://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/684d33aa-e ... a2a4464778johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:44 am? Seen all episodes and don’t catch the referenceSpider2YBanana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:22 amSome of you have clearly never seen Arrested Development loljohndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:53 pmRight. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pmDo you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.johndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pm
If you are a surf bum or have a boat then I understand this polarity. Otherwise, who are you trying to impress? What is your reasoning? Scottsdale is a magnet for affluent and educated people of all stripes. Likewise, Las Vegas has a top three culinary scene in the US with the outdoors readily available, not to mention actually world class entertainment options. Every performer makes it to Vegas whether on the rise or the decline. Does Vegas lie in the same bucket as Arizona in your estimation? If so, what makes it so much worse than California? And California is a big place so some specificity is appreciated.
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I am not a big firm attorney. I posted to give one an extra data point. I stopped responding until people discussed my situation unprompted.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:00 pmAren’t you not a biglaw attorney? Why are you posting in this thread. Congrats on having a 3.4m house in Florida if that’s what your looking for.johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:07 amThanks! Taking life cues from the Bluths isn’t recommended. I also don’t think posters obsessed with Cali/big city living would be up for the OC.TUwave wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:53 amhttps://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/684d33aa-e ... a2a4464778johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:44 am? Seen all episodes and don’t catch the referenceSpider2YBanana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:22 amSome of you have clearly never seen Arrested Development loljohndooley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:53 pmRight. My point is how amusing it is to see them have this "LA or NYC or die" attitude. They are likely a corporate associate, don't live on Central Park or own a West Village 2br or have a house in Pacific Palisades. They do not have the money or time to "live it up" in the spots they glamorize.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 pm
Do you really want to be in a place with an ongoing water crisis? Goes for LA/SD too, btw, whole southwested is fuuuuuucked. SF is even questionable these days.
Two notes on your writing: you used a double negative in the first sentence (are you not not a big law attorney). Additionally, it is "you're" not "your." Clear, crisp writing that can distill technical language into easily readable narratives is essential in medmal.
I also think you should be posting under your real username. There is no need for anonymity there as you are not revealing any information about yourself.
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above-bolded is perfectly good English by any standard (even you understood what was meant so indeed we can call it idiot-proof)johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:19 pmTwo notes on your writing: you used a double negative in the first sentence (are you not not a big law attorney). [...]Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:00 pmAren’t you not a biglaw attorney? Why are you posting in this thread. Congrats on having a 3.4m house in Florida if that’s what your looking for.
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It is not respectful to call someone else an idiot when they did not make similar remarks or insults. I merely pointed out that the (anonymous, for whatever reason) poster could have articulated him or herself better.The Lsat Airbender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:05 pmabove-bolded is perfectly good English by any standard (even you understood what was meant so indeed we can call it idiot-proof)johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:19 pmTwo notes on your writing: you used a double negative in the first sentence (are you not not a big law attorney). [...]Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:00 pmAren’t you not a biglaw attorney? Why are you posting in this thread. Congrats on having a 3.4m house in Florida if that’s what your looking for.
I have repeatedly expressed myself in cogent, thorough English throughout this thread. I have explained what I do, how my career has progressed, and answered questions pertaining to the topic. Please let me know what is idiotic about that.
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For the thousandth time, read the first word in the title of this thread.johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:35 pm...The Lsat Airbender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:05 pmabove-bolded is perfectly good English by any standard (even you understood what was meant so indeed we can call it idiot-proof)johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:19 pmTwo notes on your writing: you used a double negative in the first sentence (are you not not a big law attorney). [...]Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:00 pmAren’t you not a biglaw attorney? Why are you posting in this thread. Congrats on having a 3.4m house in Florida if that’s what your looking for.
Please let me know what is idiotic about that.
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Yes, I realize now how strict this forum is with being on-topic. After this realization, I then got flamed and criticized for other reasons. Additionally, several posters asked questions directly to me, and I do not want them to go unanswered.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:41 pmFor the thousandth time, read the first word in the title of this thread.johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:35 pm...The Lsat Airbender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:05 pmabove-bolded is perfectly good English by any standard (even you understood what was meant so indeed we can call it idiot-proof)johndooley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:19 pmTwo notes on your writing: you used a double negative in the first sentence (are you not not a big law attorney). [...]Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:00 pmAren’t you not a biglaw attorney? Why are you posting in this thread. Congrats on having a 3.4m house in Florida if that’s what your looking for.
Please let me know what is idiotic about that.
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Mod hat on: This thread is just becoming a pointless flame war. I'm going to go ahead and lock it as I don't see any more useful associate housing discussions likely.
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