Northwestern OCI Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:25 pm

Okay, I'm an AJD who has one grade and wants to play on the conservative side and assume a 3.5 GPA.

Targeting NYC transactional with DC as a secondary. Assume all are NYC, unless noted. Bidding blind. Advice?

1 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett 40
2 Proskauer Rose 20
3 Gibson Dunn & Crutcher 20
4 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton 40
5 Cahill Gordon & Reindel 20
6 DLA Piper 20
7 Paul Hastings 20
8 Kirkland & Ellis 20
9 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom 20
10 Weil Gotshal & Manges 60
11 Ropes & Gray 60
12 Davis Polk & Wardwell 40
13 Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson 40
14 Sidley Austin 20
15 Debevoise & Plimpton 20
16 Covington & Burling 20 -DC
17 K&L Gates 20- DC
18 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman 20
19 Latham & Watkins 19
20 Sullivan & Cromwell 40
21 Cooley 36
22 Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison 40
23 Cravath Swaine & Moore 36
24 Morrison & Foerster 20
25 Morgan Lewis & Bockius 20

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:54 pm

Need some advice as to the order of my bid list. Only bidding NY firms. On a journal, below median GPA, solid past and summer work experience. Heard a good tactic was to group some by interview day also so I tried to do that. Thanks!

Kaye
Fried
Paul Weiss/Simpson Thacher
Sidley
Paul Hastings
Mayer
Kirkland
Schulte Roth
Proskauer
Seward Kissel
Allen Overy
Shearman Sterling
Alston Bird
Cadwalader
Vinson Elkins
Pilsbury
Dechert
Freshfields
Linklaters
Gunderson
Baker Botts
Morrison Foerster
Winston Strawn
Cooley
Holland Knight
Debevoise Plimpton
Cahill
Skadden
WilmerHale
Ropes Gray
Weil
Bryan Cave
Jones Day
Foley Lardner
Willkie

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:57 am

Working on putting together a bid list. Looking to bid SF/Palo Alto, Chicago, and NY, but don't know if that's spreading myself too thin. Prety much right at median, secondary journal, some WE. Didn't really know what to do past the mid-20s, so ended up putting a bunch of reaches.

Jenner, Chicago
Weil, NY
Proskauer, NY
Wilson Sonsini, ALL
Jones Day, Chicago
Dentons, Chicago
Kaye Scholer, NY
Baker Mckenzie, Chicago
Fried Frank, NY
Paul Hastings, Palo Alto/SF
Mcdermott, Chicago
Allen & Overy, NY
Schiff Hardin, Chicago
Foley Lardner, ALL OFFICES
Cadwalader, NY
Paul Weiss, NY
DLA Piper, Chicago/Palo Alto/SF
O'Melveny, Silicon Valley
Paul Hastings, Chicago
Fenwick, SF
Reed Smith, Chicago
Alston and Bird, NY
Sullivan and Cromwell, NY
Freshfields, NY/London
Vinson and Elkins, NY/DC
Baker & Hostetler, NY
Locke Lord, Chicago
mcguirewoods, Chicago
Weil, Redwood
Linklaters, London
Davis Polk, NY
Kirkland, Chicago
Mayer Brown, Palo Alto
MoFo, ALL OFFICES
Simpson Thacher, Palo Alto
Sidley, Chicago
Latham, NY
Sidley, Palo Alto
Skadden, Chicago
Proskauer, Chicago
Baker Botts, Palo Alto/NY
Cleary Gottlieb, NY

Pokemon · Post by **Pokemon** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Working on putting together a bid list. Looking to bid SF/Palo Alto, Chicago, and NY, but don't know if that's spreading myself too thin. Prety much right at median, secondary journal, some WE. Didn't really know what to do past the mid-20s, so ended up putting a bunch of reaches.

Jenner, Chicago
Weil, NY
Proskauer, NY
Wilson Sonsini, ALL
Jones Day, Chicago
Dentons, Chicago
Kaye Scholer, NY
Baker Mckenzie, Chicago
Fried Frank, NY
Paul Hastings, Palo Alto/SF
Mcdermott, Chicago
Allen & Overy, NY
Schiff Hardin, Chicago
Foley Lardner, ALL OFFICES
Cadwalader, NY
Paul Weiss, NY
DLA Piper, Chicago/Palo Alto/SF
O'Melveny, Silicon Valley
Paul Hastings, Chicago
Fenwick, SF
Reed Smith, Chicago
Alston and Bird, NY
Sullivan and Cromwell, NY
Freshfields, NY/London
Vinson and Elkins, NY/DC
Baker & Hostetler, NY
Locke Lord, Chicago
Mcguirewoods, Chicago
Weil, Redwood
Linklaters, London
Davis Polk, NY
Kirkland, Chicago
Mayer Brown, Palo Alto
MoFo, ALL OFFICES
Simpson Thacher, Palo Alto
Sidley, Chicago
Latham, NY
Sidley, Palo Alto
Skadden, Chicago
Proskauer, Chicago
Baker Botts, Palo Alto/NY
Cleary Gottlieb, NY

Imho, bidding Chi and NY, on and off might set you up for trouble. Median people should stick with one market... preferably NY.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:20 pm

~3.65 secondary journal targeting CHI transactional. NY/CA bids are all backups as far as I'm concerned. Mostly looking for feedback on bids 10-20 since I'm having a hard time guessing which of these are underbid. Any feedback would be great though, TYIA

1 sidley austin llp (Chicago, IL) 80
2 KIRKLAND & ELLIS LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
3 mayer brown llp (Chicago, IL)* 80
4 schiff hardin llp (Chicago, IL) 80
5 SKADDEN ARPS SLATE MEAGHER & FLOM LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
6 WINSTON STRAWN (Chicago, IL) 60
7 JONES DAY (Chicago, IL) 40
8 LATHAM & WATKINS LLP (Chicago, IL) 76
9 katten muchin rosenman llp (Chicago, IL) 40
10 CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL (NY) 20
11 MCDERMOTT WILL & EMERY LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
12 MILBANK TWEED HADLEY & MCCLOY LLP (NY) 40
13 O'MELVENEY MYERS (CA)* 60
14 GREENBERG TRAURIG LLP (Chicago, IL) 20
15 PAUL HASTINGS (Los Angeles, CA)* 20
16 COOLEY (Palo Alto, CA)* 36
17 WILSON SONSINI (Palo Alto, CA)* 40
18 BRYAN CAVE (Chicago, IL)* 40
19 SIMPSON THACHER & BARTLETT (NY) 40
20 FRIED FRANK (NY) 40

*=Multiple Offices

bdubs · Post by **bdubs** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:~3.65 secondary journal targeting CHI transactional. NY/CA bids are all backups as far as I'm concerned. Mostly looking for feedback on bids 10-20 since I'm having a hard time guessing which of these are underbid. Any feedback would be great though, TYIA

1 SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
2 KIRKLAND & ELLIS LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
3 MAYER BROWN LLP (Chicago, IL)* 80
4 SCHIFF HARDIN LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
5 SKADDEN ARPS SLATE MEAGHER & FLOM LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
6 WINSTON STRAWN (Chicago, IL) 60
7 JONES DAY (Chicago, IL) 40
8 LATHAM & WATKINS LLP (Chicago, IL) 76
9 KATTEN MUCHIN ROSENMAN LLP (Chicago, IL) 40
10 CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL (NY) 20
11 MCDERMOTT WILL & EMERY LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
12 MILBANK TWEED HADLEY & MCCLOY LLP (NY) 40
13 O'MELVENEY MYERS (CA)* 60
14 GREENBERG TRAURIG LLP (Chicago, IL) 20
15 PAUL HASTINGS (Los Angeles, CA)* 20
16 COOLEY (Palo Alto, CA)* 36
17 WILSON SONSINI (Palo Alto, CA)* 40
18 BRYAN CAVE (Chicago, IL)* 40
19 SIMPSON THACHER & BARTLETT (NY) 40
20 FRIED FRANK (NY) 40

*=Multiple Offices

You can probably throw more V10 NY offices as long shots in your 20-25. Might not get them but it's better than only bidding 20.

Also it's better to say you bid a firm and didn't get a screener if you're trying to mass mail then it is to not bid them at all. I think firms get a resume book with all of the resumes of people who bid them but didn't get a screener through the lottery.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:26 pm

bdubs wrote:You can probably throw more V10 NY offices as long shots in your 20-25. Might not get them but it's better than only bidding 20.

Also it's better to say you bid a firm and didn't get a screener if you're trying to mass mail then it is to not bid them at all. I think firms get a resume book with all of the resumes of people who bid them but didn't get a screener through the lottery.

Thanks, just talked it over and reworked it. Added more V10 and got a little more conservative with my Chi/CA bids (conservative as in getting more bids).

Bid Firm Slots
1 sidley austin llp (Chicago, IL) 80
2 KIRKLAND & ELLIS LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
3 mayer brown llp (Chicago, IL)* 80
4 schiff hardin llp (Chicago, IL) 80
5 SKADDEN ARPS SLATE MEAGHER & FLOM LLP (Chicago, IL) 60
6 MCDERMOTT WILL & EMERY LLP (Chicago, IL) 80
7 JONES DAY (Chicago, IL) 40
8 LATHAM & WATKINS LLP (Chicago, IL) 76
9 WINSTON STRAWN (Chicago, IL) 60
10 O'MELVENEY MYERS (CA)* 60
11 WILSON SONSINI (Palo Alto, CA)* 40
12 MILBANK TWEED HADLEY & MCCLOY LLP (NY) 40
13 ROPES & GRAY LLP (CA)* 60
14 COOLEY (Palo Alto, CA)* 36
15 CLEARY GOTTLIEB STEEN & HAMILTON LLP (New York, NY) 40
16 SIMPSON THACHER & BARTLETT (NY) 40
17 Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY) 40
18 DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL (New York, NY) 40
19 CRAVATH SWAINE & MOORE LLP (New York, NY) 36
20 GREENBERG TRAURIG LLP (Chicago, IL)* 20
21 BRYAN CAVE (CA)* 40

(Greenberg and Bryan Cave are being listed just to apply via mass mail like you recommended)

lhanvt13 · Post by **lhanvt13** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:33 pm

"please rank office locations in order of preference"

Whenever it says that, should we rank for our preferences or is this a trap and should we just put down 1

Micdiddy · Post by **Micdiddy** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:40 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:"please rank office locations in order of preference"

Whenever it says that, should we rank for our preferences or is this a trap and should we just put down 1

Um, Just honestly rank your preference I think...if you don't want to be considered for an office don't rank it.

Pokemon · Post by **Pokemon** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:40 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:"please rank office locations in order of preference"

Whenever it says that, should we rank for our preferences or is this a trap and should we just put down 1

They do not care enough to set up a trap for you, especially if they have not yet met you.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:41 pm

Micdiddy wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:"please rank office locations in order of preference"

Whenever it says that, should we rank for our preferences or is this a trap and should we just put down 1
Um, Just honestly rank your preference I think...if you don't want to be considered for an office don't rank it.

I think it's often a trap.

bdubs · Post by **bdubs** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:12 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:"please rank office locations in order of preference"

Whenever it says that, should we rank for our preferences or is this a trap and should we just put down 1

Don't rank every office they have in order of your preference, but if you have a genuine interest in multiple offices I think you can list them. Be ready in case someone asks if you're interviewing in another market with a good story though.

lhanvt13 · Post by **lhanvt13** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:24 pm

cool beans. thanks for the responses guys

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If someone can help with feedback, that'd be great. Minority with firm work this summer. Should I take out Linklaters to move all the other firms up one spot? Their NYC office had a favorable CB GPA spread which was my reason for including them (and Freshfields) at all. There is no information available about Debevoise. Is there a hope of getting any of 13-16? Is this list too aspirational?

3.45 GPA

1. Latham 19 (NYC ONLY)
2. Cahill 20 (NYC ONLY)
3. White & Case 20 (NYC ONLY)
4. Milbank 40 (NYC ONLY)
5. Linklaters 20 (ALL OFFICES)
6. Debevoise 20 (NYC ONLY)
7. Weil 60 (NYC ONLY)
8. Fried Frank 40 (NYC ONLY)
9. Cadwalader 40 (NYC ONLY)
10. Simpson Thacher 40 (NYC ONLY)
11. Shearman & Sterling 20 (NYC ONLY)
12. Willkie 40 (NYC ONLY)
13. Paul Hastings 20 (NYC ONLY)
14. Paul Weiss 40 (NYC ONLY)
15. Proskauer 20 (NYC ONLY)
16. Skadden 20 (NYC ONLY)
17. Kaye Scholer 40 (NYC ONLY)
18. Kirkland & Ellis 20 (NYC ONLY)
19. Kramer Levin ???
20. Dechert 20 (ALL OFFICES)

Any feedback? Removed Freshfields from 19 since I doubt they'll go that late and put in Kramer Levin.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If someone can help with feedback, that'd be great. Minority with firm work this summer. Should I take out Linklaters to move all the other firms up one spot? Their NYC office had a favorable CB GPA spread which was my reason for including them (and Freshfields) at all. There is no information available about Debevoise. Is there a hope of getting any of 13-16? Is this list too aspirational?

3.45 GPA

1. Latham 19 (NYC ONLY)
2. Cahill 20 (NYC ONLY)
3. White & Case 20 (NYC ONLY)
4. Milbank 40 (NYC ONLY)
5. Linklaters 20 (ALL OFFICES)
6. Debevoise 20 (NYC ONLY)
7. Weil 60 (NYC ONLY)
8. Fried Frank 40 (NYC ONLY)
9. Cadwalader 40 (NYC ONLY)
10. Simpson Thacher 40 (NYC ONLY)
11. Shearman & Sterling 20 (NYC ONLY)
12. Willkie 40 (NYC ONLY)
13. Paul Hastings 20 (NYC ONLY)
14. Paul Weiss 40 (NYC ONLY)
15. Proskauer 20 (NYC ONLY)
16. Skadden 20 (NYC ONLY)
17. Kaye Scholer 40 (NYC ONLY)
18. Kirkland & Ellis 20 (NYC ONLY)
19. Kramer Levin ???
20. Dechert 20 (ALL OFFICES)
Any feedback? Removed Freshfields from 19 since I doubt they'll go that late and put in Kramer Levin.

Alum here. Doesn't seem like you'll get Dechert, Proskauer. Shearman might be on the cusp as well. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that your GPA would not be in contention for the more grade-selective Debevoise.

edit: Looking at the two NU alums working in Debevoise's NY office, it seems that they were pretty credentialed. One was EIC of law review + magna + coif, and the other was law review + coif.

lhanvt13 · Post by **lhanvt13** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:16 am

Up to What number would I be able to get cleary ny?

Pokemon · Post by **Pokemon** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:48 am

lhanvt13 wrote:Up to What number would I be able to get cleary ny?

Depends on the year. Depends on the rumors that law students spread to each other.

bdubs · Post by **bdubs** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:11 am

Pokemon wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:Up to What number would I be able to get cleary ny?
Depends on the year. Depends on the rumors that law students spread to each other.

Definitely this. But I think the V10 NY ususally tends to be around in the tail end of the top 10 bids and can usually be had in the low teens. I think it depends a lot on 1) last year's CB min and median, 2) # of slots, 3) whether slots are shared, 4) how bad the "bid NY" anxiety is running in the class

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:24 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If someone can help with feedback, that'd be great. Minority with firm work this summer. Should I take out Linklaters to move all the other firms up one spot? Their NYC office had a favorable CB GPA spread which was my reason for including them (and Freshfields) at all. There is no information available about Debevoise. Is there a hope of getting any of 13-16? Is this list too aspirational?

3.45 GPA

1. Latham 19 (NYC ONLY)
2. Cahill 20 (NYC ONLY)
3. White & Case 20 (NYC ONLY)
4. Milbank 40 (NYC ONLY)
5. Linklaters 20 (ALL OFFICES)
6. Debevoise 20 (NYC ONLY)
7. Weil 60 (NYC ONLY)
8. Fried Frank 40 (NYC ONLY)
9. Cadwalader 40 (NYC ONLY)
10. Simpson Thacher 40 (NYC ONLY)
11. Shearman & Sterling 20 (NYC ONLY)
12. Willkie 40 (NYC ONLY)
13. Paul Hastings 20 (NYC ONLY)
14. Paul Weiss 40 (NYC ONLY)
15. Proskauer 20 (NYC ONLY)
16. Skadden 20 (NYC ONLY)
17. Kaye Scholer 40 (NYC ONLY)
18. Kirkland & Ellis 20 (NYC ONLY)
19. Kramer Levin ???
20. Dechert 20 (ALL OFFICES)
Any feedback? Removed Freshfields from 19 since I doubt they'll go that late and put in Kramer Levin.
Alum here. Doesn't seem like you'll get Dechert, Proskauer. Shearman might be on the cusp as well. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that your GPA would not be in contention for the more grade-selective Debevoise.

edit: Looking at the two NU alums working in Debevoise's NY office, it seems that they were pretty credentialed. One was EIC of law review + magna + coif, and the other was law review + coif.

Deb is less selective than some other firms on this list. Those others being Kirkland PW stb and maybe skadden.

genericblandacct · Post by **genericblandacct** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If someone can help with feedback, that'd be great. Minority with firm work this summer. Should I take out Linklaters to move all the other firms up one spot? Their NYC office had a favorable CB GPA spread which was my reason for including them (and Freshfields) at all. There is no information available about Debevoise. Is there a hope of getting any of 13-16? Is this list too aspirational?

3.45 GPA

1. Latham 19 (NYC ONLY)
2. Cahill 20 (NYC ONLY)
3. White & Case 20 (NYC ONLY)
4. Milbank 40 (NYC ONLY)
5. Linklaters 20 (ALL OFFICES)
6. Debevoise 20 (NYC ONLY)
7. Weil 60 (NYC ONLY)
8. Fried Frank 40 (NYC ONLY)
9. Cadwalader 40 (NYC ONLY)
10. Simpson Thacher 40 (NYC ONLY)
11. Shearman & Sterling 20 (NYC ONLY)
12. Willkie 40 (NYC ONLY)
13. Paul Hastings 20 (NYC ONLY)
14. Paul Weiss 40 (NYC ONLY)
15. Proskauer 20 (NYC ONLY)
16. Skadden 20 (NYC ONLY)
17. Kaye Scholer 40 (NYC ONLY)
18. Kirkland & Ellis 20 (NYC ONLY)
19. Kramer Levin ???
20. Dechert 20 (ALL OFFICES)
Any feedback? Removed Freshfields from 19 since I doubt they'll go that late and put in Kramer Levin.
Alum here. Doesn't seem like you'll get Dechert, Proskauer. Shearman might be on the cusp as well. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that your GPA would not be in contention for the more grade-selective Debevoise.

edit: Looking at the two NU alums working in Debevoise's NY office, it seems that they were pretty credentialed. One was EIC of law review + magna + coif, and the other was law review + coif.

I agree with this. I would maybe think about switching Deb with Paul Hastings, since both have 20 spots and PH is a bit less grade selective. I would also think about moving Paul Weiss and Simpson above Weil simply due to the number of spots for each, but I would still keep Weil relatively high because you definitely are competitive there.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If someone can help with feedback, that'd be great. Minority with firm work this summer. Should I take out Linklaters to move all the other firms up one spot? Their NYC office had a favorable CB GPA spread which was my reason for including them (and Freshfields) at all. There is no information available about Debevoise. Is there a hope of getting any of 13-16? Is this list too aspirational?

3.45 GPA

1. Latham 19 (NYC ONLY)
2. Cahill 20 (NYC ONLY)
3. White & Case 20 (NYC ONLY)
4. Milbank 40 (NYC ONLY)
5. Linklaters 20 (ALL OFFICES)
6. Debevoise 20 (NYC ONLY)
7. Weil 60 (NYC ONLY)
8. Fried Frank 40 (NYC ONLY)
9. Cadwalader 40 (NYC ONLY)
10. Simpson Thacher 40 (NYC ONLY)
11. Shearman & Sterling 20 (NYC ONLY)
12. Willkie 40 (NYC ONLY)
13. Paul Hastings 20 (NYC ONLY)
14. Paul Weiss 40 (NYC ONLY)
15. Proskauer 20 (NYC ONLY)
16. Skadden 20 (NYC ONLY)
17. Kaye Scholer 40 (NYC ONLY)
18. Kirkland & Ellis 20 (NYC ONLY)
19. Kramer Levin ???
20. Dechert 20 (ALL OFFICES)
Any feedback? Removed Freshfields from 19 since I doubt they'll go that late and put in Kramer Levin.
Alum here. Doesn't seem like you'll get Dechert, Proskauer. Shearman might be on the cusp as well. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that your GPA would not be in contention for the more grade-selective Debevoise.

edit: Looking at the two NU alums working in Debevoise's NY office, it seems that they were pretty credentialed. One was EIC of law review + magna + coif, and the other was law review + coif.
Deb is less selective than some other firms on this list. Those others being Kirkland PW stb and maybe skadden.

Alum here. This does not reflect the prevailing opinion, especially since KE is Ny on that list; I distinctly recall multiple years' OCI stats being relatively low for KE NY. I also know multiple people who got Simpson who were at OP's GPA or lower. And skadden's reputation is that it is The V5 that dips GPA-wise (not saying that a 3.45 is competitive, just that skadden is not the right example to cite here). Sorry if this comes off as harsh, I'm really not trying to be... this poster seems uninformed about NY interviewing.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:05 am

3.5 GPA

NYC. Which firms went high (1-5, 6-10) in the last few years?

I've been throwing less selective firms with 20 slots up there (Cahill, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Shearman, White & Case). Not sure if this is the right approach though because I could see people bidding even more heavily on well-known/popular firms with 20 slots like Latham/Kirkland NY. Any idea what the historic trend has been?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:38 am

3.5 here with Law Review and seven years WE(management) at a Fortune 150. Do I have any shot at DC firms with that GPA (Holland, Mayer, Winston, K&L, & Goodman) or should I just bid NY?

lhanvt13 · Post by **lhanvt13** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.5 here with Law Review and seven years WE(management) at a Fortune 150. Do I have any shot at DC firms with that GPA (Holland, Mayer, Winston, K&L, & Goodman) or should I just bid NY?

Ties? IP?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:[

Any feedback? Removed Freshfields from 19 since I doubt they'll go that late and put in Kramer Levin.
Alum here. Doesn't seem like you'll get Dechert, Proskauer. Shearman might be on the cusp as well. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that your GPA would not be in contention for the more grade-selective Debevoise.

edit: Looking at the two NU alums working in Debevoise's NY office, it seems that they were pretty credentialed. One was EIC of law review + magna + coif, and the other was law review + coif.
Deb is less selective than some other firms on this list. Those others being Kirkland PW stb and maybe skadden.
Alum here. This does not reflect the prevailing opinion, especially since KE is Ny on that list; I distinctly recall multiple years' OCI stats being relatively low for KE NY. I also know multiple people who got Simpson who were at OP's GPA or lower. And skadden's reputation is that it is The V5 that dips GPA-wise (not saying that a 3.45 is competitive, just that skadden is not the right example to cite here). Sorry if this comes off as harsh, I'm really not trying to be... this poster seems uninformed about NY interviewing.

I'm saying deb isn't as selective as people were making them out to be. I think if you're going to caution against deb because of GPA, you should caution against the others, too. If he has a shot at skadden/PW/K&E/stb, then he certainly has a shot at deb.

I know people in recruiting at deb so I don't really care whether or not you think I'm informed.

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