Columbia EIP 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

any idea how our class has done thus far? i know it's anecdotal, but i have heard from interviewers that our class has been particularly strong/impressive? i have, however, heard a few who have yet to get offers.

Obviously anecdotal, but everyone I've talked to seems to have done really well this year. Maybe it really is feast or famine, and I'm talking to all the people who feasted, but I feel unaccomplished because I didn't get a V10 offer like most of my friends

[Anonymous User]

any idea how our class has done thus far? i know it's anecdotal, but i have heard from interviewers that our class has been particularly strong/impressive? i have, however, heard a few who have yet to get offers.

Obviously anecdotal, but everyone I've talked to seems to have done really well this year. Maybe it really is feast or famine, and I'm talking to all the people who feasted, but I feel unaccomplished because I didn't get a V10 offer like most of my friends

not sure this kind of talk is all that healthy when there are people still struggling to net any offer, and vault is no measure of recruiting accomplishment

that being said, a near 100% success rate would be brilliant

[Anonymous User]

any idea how our class has done thus far? i know it's anecdotal, but i have heard from interviewers that our class has been particularly strong/impressive? i have, however, heard a few who have yet to get offers.

Obviously anecdotal, but everyone I've talked to seems to have done really well this year. Maybe it really is feast or famine, and I'm talking to all the people who feasted, but I feel unaccomplished because I didn't get a V10 offer like most of my friends

not sure this kind of talk is all that healthy when there are people still struggling to net any offer, and vault is no measure of recruiting accomplishment

that being said, a near 100% success rate would be brilliant

True, my apologies. It definitely isn't a healthy way to think. Obviously we won't have a 100% offer rate (as nice as that would be), and people may not be incredibly forthcoming in person about not getting an offer, but that's encouraging to hear from the interviewers that our class seemed exceptional (even by CLS's standards)

[Anonymous User]

Speaking anecdotally, I know of several people who've struck out already.

[Anonymous User]

that's encouraging to hear from the interviewers that our class seemed exceptional (even by CLS's standards)

This seems like something they would say every year. Just saying.

[Anonymous User]

Speaking anecdotally, I know of several people who've struck out already.

Ya, I know it's anonymous, but we should all have some manner of dignity. Congrats to those of us have jobs - regardless of V10 - but just remember a few arbitrary differences could have made us not as fortunate.

[Anonymous User]

Speaking anecdotally, I know of several people who've struck out already.

Ya, I know it's anonymous, but we should all have some manner of dignity. Congrats to those of us have jobs - regardless of V10 - but just remember a few arbitrary differences could have made us not as fortunate.

It truly is difficult to grasp just how much luck is involved in the process until you're really going through it. Just a little bad luck could really be the difference between an offer and not getting an offer

[Anonymous User]

Just want to echo what others have said above. I have friends ranging everywhere from getting multiple V5 offers, barely snagging a job in the V100, to those still grinding after striking out. We can congratulate ourselves and each other, but I think we can be considerate of others at the same time. I know how hard it's been for my friends who haven't secured an offer yet.

[Anonymous User]

im a current strike-out. i'm not looking for sympathy, go ahead and congratulate yourselves all you want. luckily going to columbia every mid-size/small firm wants us, so i'm not worried about getting a decent job. granted, not big law, but at least a firm job. maybe clerk and then try big law again. who knows. but its far different striking out at oci here than at a lower T14. not to belittle them, but it's just the fact for nyc.

also targeting NJ and CT now too. but i also grew up in NY so maybe my situation is a tad different.

[Anonymous User]

im a current strike-out. i'm not looking for sympathy, go ahead and congratulate yourselves all you want. luckily going to columbia every mid-size/small firm wants us, so i'm not worried about getting a decent job. granted, not big law, but at least a firm job. maybe clerk and then try big law again. who knows. but its far different striking out at oci here than at a lower T14. not to belittle them, but it's just the fact for nyc.

also targeting NJ and CT now too. but i also grew up in NY so maybe my situation is a tad different.

Way to keep a positive attitude, and best of luck with your job search! You're absolutely right in that having that Columbia name on your resume is a tremendous boost. And EIP is by far not the only way that people get firm jobs. Hope everything works out for you!

[Anonymous User]

Of people getting only 1 or 2 callbacks and/or striking out, do we know if grades was the best predictor? Or interviewing more important?

[Anonymous User]

Of people getting only 1 or 2 callbacks and/or striking out, do we know if grades was the best predictor? Or interviewing more important?

For me, interviewing/resume FAR more important.

[Anonymous User]

im a current strike-out. i'm not looking for sympathy, go ahead and congratulate yourselves all you want. luckily going to columbia every mid-size/small firm wants us, so i'm not worried about getting a decent job. granted, not big law, but at least a firm job. maybe clerk and then try big law again. who knows. but its far different striking out at oci here than at a lower T14. not to belittle them, but it's just the fact for nyc.

also targeting NJ and CT now too. but i also grew up in NY so maybe my situation is a tad different.

good luck -- it sounds like you are going to be perfectly fine

[Anonymous User]

Of people getting only 1 or 2 callbacks and/or striking out, do we know if grades was the best predictor? Or interviewing more important?

For me, interviewing/resume FAR more important.

i'd have to echo this point. pretty low stone, but got offers from all my CBs from V3-V25. not at all bragging. something to just keep in mind for those who still have interviews left and for those looking for guidance for next year's EIP. Don't let anyone tell you that your grades will keep you out of the running. sure, at some places they will. i'm not trying to be too optimistic here. but, you should still walk into the room with just as much confidence as any of your other classmates and let your personality shine through.

[Anonymous User]

Of people getting only 1 or 2 callbacks and/or striking out, do we know if grades was the best predictor? Or interviewing more important?

For me, interviewing/resume FAR more important.

i'd have to echo this point. pretty low stone, but got offers from all my CBs from V3-V25. not at all bragging. something to just keep in mind for those who still have interviews left and for those looking for guidance for next year's EIP. Don't let anyone tell you that your grades will keep you out of the running. sure, at some places they will. i'm not trying to be too optimistic here. but, you should still walk into the room with just as much confidence as any of your other classmates and let your personality shine through.

No offense but your comments ring really hollow. As a Stone scholar, you are EXACTLY the type of person who gets the vast majority of the offers in the range of firms you just described.

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

Of people getting only 1 or 2 callbacks and/or striking out, do we know if grades was the best predictor? Or interviewing more important?

Impossible to say, because interviewing is so anecdotal, and there's a positive bias in the self-reporting (most people think they're better interviewers than they really are). Unsurprisingly, strikeouts have some correlation with grades, and most strikeouts are below median (even though, as has been noted, a few Stones strike out every year). CW has typically been that someone who is good at either one is almost assuredly safe, but that being sub-par at one and merely average at the other is quite a dangerous recipe. A more common denominator historically has been bad/overaggressive bidding, like below-median students spending 20 bids on DC.

[Anonymous User]

Of people getting only 1 or 2 callbacks and/or striking out, do we know if grades was the best predictor? Or interviewing more important?

For me, interviewing/resume FAR more important.

i'd have to echo this point. pretty low stone, but got offers from all my CBs from V3-V25. not at all bragging. something to just keep in mind for those who still have interviews left and for those looking for guidance for next year's EIP. Don't let anyone tell you that your grades will keep you out of the running. sure, at some places they will. i'm not trying to be too optimistic here. but, you should still walk into the room with just as much confidence as any of your other classmates and let your personality shine through.

No offense but your comments ring really hollow. As a Stone scholar, you are EXACTLY the type of person who gets the vast majority of the offers in the range of firms you just described.

getting every offer is still ridiculously impressive and statistically unlikely, if true. to put it into perspective, kent here and got offers from only about half the firms I CB'd with in new york (and got dinged at several screeners too). Although I was extremely successful in secondary markets so I'm not sure what that says, but if you're converting every NY CB than you are definitely doing something right that not everyone has.

[Anonymous User]

I think corporate hiring is much better than lit this year. If you struck out and are mass-mailing full-service firms, make sure you say that you are interested in corp.

[Anonymous User]

I think corporate hiring is much better than lit this year. If you struck out and are mass-mailing full-service firms, make sure you say that you are interested in corp.

corporate hiring is always much better than lit

higher turn around due to better exit options

also a larger portion of most firms

[Anonymous User]

Still nothing from Mayer Brown NY?

[Anonymous User]

Still nothing from Mayer Brown NY?

At least not for me. I'm thinking that for people interviewed during the week of 8/18-8/22, we are probably gonna come up during their meeting tomorrow, if the hiring committee is meeting then. It makes sense that there's no word today since it's the day after the long weekend. If they have a decision, they should have told us by last Friday. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

[Anonymous User]

Any word from Greenberg Traurig post-CB?

[Anonymous User]

Still nothing from Mayer Brown NY?

At least not for me. I'm thinking that for people interviewed during the week of 8/18-8/22, we are probably gonna come up during their meeting tomorrow, if the hiring committee is meeting then. It makes sense that there's no word today since it's the day after the long weekend. If they have a decision, they should have told us by last Friday. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

A friend of mine interviewed with them the week of the 18th and got an offer two days later.

[Anonymous User]

Any word from Greenberg Traurig post-CB?

CB week of the 18th, offer 8/25.

[Anonymous User]

so...classes...