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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:59 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Weil NYC offers out this morning
Offers or CBs?
Offers.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Anonymous User wrote:Weil NYC offers out this morning
when did you interview?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:19 am

Offers are from a large group of interviews they did Monday

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:23 am

Anonymous User wrote:Arent Fox DC or Akin Gump DC?
I've heard Akin Gump DC CBs went out. Heard nothing re: Arent Fox.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:30 am

Has anyone heard anything from Texas?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:32 am

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard anything from Texas?
Now that most people have their CBs scheduled and are off, information isn't really coming in frequently, which is a shame. I wish I knew how fast some of these firms moved, but I'm going with Donovan's advice that said "no news is good news".

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:06 pm

How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Anonymous User wrote:How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"
Bad question to ask. Just do you. There is no normal number. There seems to be a big gap, i.e. you either owned OCI or you struggled. I know plenty of people with 12+ callbacks. Also know a lot with only a small handful. There doesn't seem to be much in between. If you are on the wrong end of that spectrum, hustle.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Anonymous User wrote:How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"
Bad question to ask. Just do you. There is no normal number. There seems to be a big gap, i.e. you either owned OCI or you struggled. I know plenty of people with 12+ callbacks. Also know a lot with only a small handful. There doesn't seem to be much in between. If you are on the wrong end of that spectrum, hustle.
I guess I am trying to figure out how many callbacks constitutes being on the wrong end of that spectrum. Is 6 enough? 7? 8? I understand that there is some variety, but I was hoping to get some data points. It feels rude to talk to anyone but my closest friends about this in person. I was hoping that an anonymous online forum would make people comfortable enough to share.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:25 pm

Anything from Troutman and Sanders NY?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:59 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"
Bad question to ask. Just do you. There is no normal number. There seems to be a big gap, i.e. you either owned OCI or you struggled. I know plenty of people with 12+ callbacks. Also know a lot with only a small handful. There doesn't seem to be much in between. If you are on the wrong end of that spectrum, hustle.
I guess I am trying to figure out how many callbacks constitutes being on the wrong end of that spectrum. Is 6 enough? 7? 8? I understand that there is some variety, but I was hoping to get some data points. It feels rude to talk to anyone but my closest friends about this in person. I was hoping that an anonymous online forum would make people comfortable enough to share.
To give you a reference, KD mentioned that somewhere between 45-50% of CBs result in offers. That is the national average and it varies from market to market and firm to firm. I also imagine that it varies wildly from candidate to candidate. Someone who just clicked with one interviewer for whatever reason may not click with any number of other people at the firm. Lots of variables. Focus on crushing the ones that you have scheduled. If you don't have enough to make you feel like you could convert, start mailing and checking symplicity and planning on a few other things.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Anonymous User wrote:How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"
Bad question to ask. Just do you. There is no normal number. There seems to be a big gap, i.e. you either owned OCI or you struggled. I know plenty of people with 12+ callbacks. Also know a lot with only a small handful. There doesn't seem to be much in between. If you are on the wrong end of that spectrum, hustle.
Just as a data point:
Median, K-JD, excellent interviewer (told so by KD himself)
# of OGI Interviews: 23
# of OGI CBs (so far): 5
# of OGI Rejections: 10
# outstanding: 8

That being said, I hustled beforehand and have already done 5 CBs (from job fairs) and have another 2 CBs lined up IN ADDITION to the 5 CBs I have so far through OGI.

I know of people who are VLR/near-grade-ons who were offered callbacks at almost every interview and actually declined some because there were just too many to reasonably do. I know of people at or below median who have no CBs so far or only have 1-2 (through OGI). I also know of people who are 3.5+ who targeted DC and have come up empty so far. A lot depends on your grades, your interview ability, and what markets you targeted. If NY/DC aren't your primary markets, you have a good shot but realize that those markets also move slower with regard to everything (CBs, Offers, Dings). Some firms also have wait or hold lists for applicants (ESPECIALLY firms with small class sizes).

Also, a poster mentioned a 45-50% CB-to-offer ratio nationwide. It's important to realize that some firms have very very low CB-to-offer ratios because they invite way more than they plan on hiring. Others have close to 100%. Some markets tend to be higher, and some tend to be lower.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:34 pm

Still nothing from Fried Frank NY?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:51 pm

Any word from Perkins Coie in Seattle?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:37 pm

Any Allen & Overy?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by First Offense » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any Allen & Overy?
Didn't they just interview today?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Anonymous User wrote:How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"
Bad question to ask. Just do you. There is no normal number. There seems to be a big gap, i.e. you either owned OCI or you struggled. I know plenty of people with 12+ callbacks. Also know a lot with only a small handful. There doesn't seem to be much in between. If you are on the wrong end of that spectrum, hustle.
Just as a data point:
Median, K-JD, excellent interviewer (told so by KD himself)
# of OGI Interviews: 23
# of OGI CBs (so far): 5
# of OGI Rejections: 10
# outstanding: 8

That being said, I hustled beforehand and have already done 5 CBs (from job fairs) and have another 2 CBs lined up IN ADDITION to the 5 CBs I have so far through OGI.

I know of people who are VLR/near-grade-ons who were offered callbacks at almost every interview and actually declined some because there were just too many to reasonably do. I know of people at or below median who have no CBs so far or only have 1-2 (through OGI). I also know of people who are 3.5+ who targeted DC and have come up empty so far. A lot depends on your grades, your interview ability, and what markets you targeted. If NY/DC aren't your primary markets, you have a good shot but realize that those markets also move slower with regard to everything (CBs, Offers, Dings). Some firms also have wait or hold lists for applicants (ESPECIALLY firms with small class sizes).
VLR grade-on here who targeted DC exclusively (with strong ties to area). Out of 21 interviews there, all preselects, sitting on 3 CBs, 8 dings, 10 outstanding. I'm obviously not the world's best interviewer but neither so impossibly bad that no one would give me a CB. Hoping for more, but just saying: folks with 5 or 6 shouldn't feel too down on themselves.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

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Anonymous User wrote:How many callbacks do you all have at this point? I would be interested to know what is "normal"
Bad question to ask. Just do you. There is no normal number. There seems to be a big gap, i.e. you either owned OCI or you struggled. I know plenty of people with 12+ callbacks. Also know a lot with only a small handful. There doesn't seem to be much in between. If you are on the wrong end of that spectrum, hustle.
Just as a data point:
Median, K-JD, excellent interviewer (told so by KD himself)
# of OGI Interviews: 23
# of OGI CBs (so far): 5
# of OGI Rejections: 10
# outstanding: 8

That being said, I hustled beforehand and have already done 5 CBs (from job fairs) and have another 2 CBs lined up IN ADDITION to the 5 CBs I have so far through OGI.

I know of people who are VLR/near-grade-ons who were offered callbacks at almost every interview and actually declined some because there were just too many to reasonably do. I know of people at or below median who have no CBs so far or only have 1-2 (through OGI). I also know of people who are 3.5+ who targeted DC and have come up empty so far. A lot depends on your grades, your interview ability, and what markets you targeted. If NY/DC aren't your primary markets, you have a good shot but realize that those markets also move slower with regard to everything (CBs, Offers, Dings). Some firms also have wait or hold lists for applicants (ESPECIALLY firms with small class sizes).
VLR grade-on here who targeted DC exclusively (with strong ties to area). Out of 21 interviews there, all preselects, sitting on 3 CBs, 8 dings, 10 outstanding. I'm obviously not the world's best interviewer but neither so impossibly bad that no one would give me a CB. Hoping for more, but just saying: folks with 5 or 6 shouldn't feel too down on themselves.
I don't know who you are - but I'm also a VLR grade-on who targeted DC exclusively with strong ties. 23 interviews, with 8 CBs, 5 dings, and 11 outstanding. On the other hand, I have another friend who is also a VLR grade-on who targeted DC exclusively with strong ties - 23 interviews, double digit callbacks to the point where he's turned down a couple.

DC ain't easy, bros.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:27 pm

Dinged at Paul Hastings LA. Sad days.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard anything from Texas?
I have 3 CB to TX.

Edit: A friend also has one of the same TX firms as me plus 3 different ones.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:17 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard anything from Texas?
I have 3 CB to TX.

Edit: A friend also has one of the same TX firms as me plus 3 different ones.
I have a TX firm as well (no ties FWIW)

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:39 pm

Another data point.

Little below median/some WE/hit or miss interviewer/targeting secondary markets

# of OGI Interviews: 22
# of OGI CBs (so far): 4
# of OGI Rejections: 2
# outstanding: 16

Wonder how I'm doing.

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:46 am

Can y'all say which Texas firms?

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Re: UVA 2014 OGI CBs, Dings, & Offers

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:37 am

Still nothing from Fried Frank NY?

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