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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:51 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 3L and I just wanted to pop in to plug pre-EIP interviews. Especially for the Kents in this thread, but really for anyone above median, many firms will do resume/gpa-based "callbacks" over the summer. I know a lot of students locked down good offers last year that way and reduced the stress from EIP.

(Last year, it seemed like not everyone knew it was an option and some of the more connected people got an (extra) leg up because they knew about it—but it doesn't require any connections, just sending in a resume. The worst that can happen is they say to wait for EIP.)
When would be a good time to do this? Should we wait for honors confirmation and journals first?
Bumping this. I'm planning on emailing some of the partners that I clicked with at events/previous interviews, but that's only like 3-4 firms. Do we mass mail the recruiting contact at the rest of the firms we're planning to bid on?
I'd like to try this, too. Like the above poster, is it more advisable to wait until July 7 when we know which journal we're on? Also, I know July 7's the day for Law Review notice, but is that also the day we'll find out which other journals we're on if we don't make CLR?

Whenever we actually email firms, should we write cover letters or just send a resume and transcript and ask them to contact us if they want anything else?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:FYI, OCS has a list of firms that have decreased their interview schedules from last year, which definitely affects the utility of the first failed bid report. Make sure to ask them about that when you meet...you can be assured that they will not be the ones to bring it up.
I compiled the information from that list a few weeks ago and have been meaning to post it here but keep forgetting about. This is all roughly approximate, because the number of interviews a firm did in the last year isn't necessarily equal to how many schedules they had last year. Also I only did New York firms. The number next to each one is how many interviews the firm is adding (parens mean number subtracted):

Cravath: 30
Willkie Farr: 20
Skadden: 20
Shearman: 20
Goodwin Procter: 20
Cooley: 10
Paul Hastings: 10
Milbank: (10)
Boies Corporate: (20)
K&E: (20)
Kelley Drye & Warren: (20)
Jones Day: (20)
Chadbourne & Parke: (20)
Orrick: (20)
DLA: (30)
Davis Polk: (40)
Hughes Hubbard: (60)

Edit: Latham also appears to be adding 10.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:32 pm

DPW subtracting 40 spots? Looks like I'll have to move it up. Thank you.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:38 pm

Alright. I know this isn't a perfect list, but it's a starting place. I've bolded the five firms I am most committed to receiving interviews with. I'm 4 bids short - if you have recommendations in LA or NY, throw them out there. All Offices NY unless indicated otherwise. Numbers are lower Kent. I'm doing litigation this summer and enjoying it, but would like to experience some top transactional work if possible.

1. Boies, Schiller & Flexner
2. Kirkland & Ellis.
3. MoFo (SF)
4. Sidley Austin
5. Skadden Arps
6. Debevoise
7. WilmerHale
8. White & Case
9. Linklaters
10. Paul Weiss
11. Cleary Gottlieb
12. Covington & Burlington
13. Wachtell Lipton
14. Williams & Connoly (DC)
15. Munger Tolles (LA)
16. Paul Hastings (LA)
17. Cravath
18. Latham (LA)
19. Clifford Chance (London)
20. Gibson Dunn (LA)
21. Irell & Manella (LA)
22. Simpson Thacher (London)
23. Allen & Overy (London)
24. Sullivan & Cromwell (Paris)
25. Davis Polk (Menlo Park)
26. Shearman Sterling (London)
27. ??

I'm very frustrated by the "only bid on one office" policy. I would definitely bid on both the LA and NY or Europe and NY offices of many of these firms; is this something I could fix by the early bird mass mail method suggested on the previous page of this thread?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:09 am

Anyone doing Quinn Emanuel?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by enibs » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:20 pm

itbdvorm wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
itbdvorm wrote: FWIW, I largely agree with this, though I think I'd add Skadden, Latham and Kirkland (maybe) to the above list. To the poster who asked, DPW has had a very weird transactional practice lately - still doing plenty of work in a specific type of cap markets but they've lost substantial market share on the public company M&A side and don't have a PE practice to speak of so....
I would strongly suggest 2Ls do their own research or talk to more people than on an anonymous internet board. Regarding DPW's allegedly poor M&A practice, see here http://www.bloomberg.com/professional/c ... adv-h1.pdf and here --LinkRemoved--. Keep in mind this is despite having a smaller M&A practice than S&C, STB, and obviously Skadden. This is not intended to turn this into a discussion about one firm in particular, but just take the "information" you get with a grain of salt. I would strongly suggest going to a firm's website and seeing their news / announcements if you want to get an idea of the type of work they are doing.

More generally, I suggest trying to talk to attorneys and figure out what the work of a particular group is actually like before choosing a firm based on one practice group.
I of course agree with that, though would think that my presence here has been sufficiently well-established enough so that no one's questioning my statements, but hey.

DPW's presence on that list is dramatically skewed by advising the financial advisor to Verizon in connection with its $124bn acquisition of Verizon Wireless. While cool, and useful for league table purposes, it's not particularly meaningful in a broad sense.

I'm not saying they have a bad transactional/M&A practice by any means. I just don't think it's on the level of the other firms listed right now. Take my word with whatever grains of salt you like.
More generally than just the Verizon deal, DPW regularly represents financial advisors in big deals and gets full league table credit for those representations, which is a total joke. The role of counsel to the financial advisor is minimal - maybe you negotiate the engagement letter for them, you review the fairness opinion, and you do the write up of the financial advisors presentation for the proxy statement. And you get paid commensurate with this limited role. Why the league tables give the same credit for this as they do for the people who actually do the deal is beyond me.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:21 pm

Any thoughts on this bid list for a 3.3 interested in litigation and/or international arbitration? I'm kind of struggling to figure this stuff out. I interview really well and have significant foreign language abilities/international background. Any thought would be greatly appreciated! I'm bolding the firms I'm especially interested in working for.

EIW Bid List

(1) Boies, Schiller (NYC) (wasted bid, I know)
(2) Gibson Dunn (DC)
(3) WilmerHale (NY)
(4) Gibson Dunn (NY)
(5) Freshfields (London)
(6) Arnold & Porter (NY)
(7) Weil (NY)
(8) Linklaters (NYC)
(9) Proskauer Rose (NYC)
(10) Morrison & Foerster (NY)
(11) Sullivan & Cromwell (Europe)
(12) Kirkland & Ellis (NY)
(13) Skadden (NY)
(14) Covington & Burling (NY)
(15) Paul Hastings (NY)
(16) Mayer Brown (NY)
(17) Sidley Austin (NY)
(18) Millbank, Tweed (NY)
(19) Paul Weiss (NYC)
(20) Wachtell (NY)
(21) Skadden (London)
(22) clifford chance (NYC)
(23) clifford chance (London)
(24) Freshfields (NYC)
(25) Shearman & Sterling (NYC)
(26) Jones Day (NYC)
(27) Allen & Overy (London)
(28) Debevoise (NY)
(29) Allen & Overy (NY)
(30) hogan lovells (NY)
(31) Akin Gump (NY)
(32) Greenberg Traurig (NY)
(33) Wilkie Farr (NY)
(34) Cahill Gordon (NY)
(35) Schulte Roth (NY)
(36) Fried, Frank (NY)
(37) Sullivan & Cromwell (NY)
(38) Cleary Gottlieb (NY)
(39) Cleary Gottlieb (London)
(40) Davis Polk (NY)
(41) Latham (NYC)
(42) Simpson Thatcher (NYC)

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone doing Quinn Emanuel?
Me! not that I have much of a shot with my 3.3 GPA. I sent in my materials last week.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on this bid list for a 3.3 interested in litigation and/or international arbitration? I'm kind of struggling to figure this stuff out. I interview really well and have significant foreign language abilities/international background. Any thought would be greatly appreciated! I'm bolding the firms I'm especially interested in working for.

EIW Bid List

(1) Boies, Schiller (NYC) (wasted bid, I know)
(2) Gibson Dunn (DC)
(3) WilmerHale (NY)
(4) Gibson Dunn (NY)
(5) Freshfields (London)
(6) Arnold & Porter (NY)
(7) Weil (NY)
(8) Linklaters (NYC)
(9) Proskauer Rose (NYC)
(10) Morrison & Foerster (NY)
(11) Sullivan & Cromwell (Europe)
(12) Kirkland & Ellis (NY)
(13) Skadden (NY)
(14) Covington & Burling (NY)
(15) Paul Hastings (NY)
(16) Mayer Brown (NY)
(17) Sidley Austin (NY)
(18) Millbank, Tweed (NY)
(19) Paul Weiss (NYC)
(20) Wachtell (NY)
(21) Skadden (London)
(22) Clifford Chance (NYC)
(23) Clifford Chance (London)
(24) Freshfields (NYC)
(25) Shearman & Sterling (NYC)
(26) Jones Day (NYC)
(27) Allen & Overy (London)
(28) Debevoise (NY)
(29) Allen & Overy (NY)
(30) Hogan Lovells (NY)
(31) Akin Gump (NY)
(32) Greenberg Traurig (NY)
(33) Wilkie Farr (NY)
(34) Cahill Gordon (NY)
(35) Schulte Roth (NY)
(36) Fried, Frank (NY)
(37) Sullivan & Cromwell (NY)
(38) Cleary Gottlieb (NY)
(39) Cleary Gottlieb (London)
(40) Davis Polk (NY)
(41) Latham (NYC)
(42) Simpson Thatcher (NYC)
I assume you don't go to Columbia?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on this bid list for a 3.3 interested in litigation and/or international arbitration? I'm kind of struggling to figure this stuff out. I interview really well and have significant foreign language abilities/international background. Any thought would be greatly appreciated! I'm bolding the firms I'm especially interested in working for.

EIW Bid List

(1) Boies, Schiller (NYC) (wasted bid, I know)
(2) Gibson Dunn (DC)
(3) WilmerHale (NY)
(4) Gibson Dunn (NY)
(5) Freshfields (London)
(6) Arnold & Porter (NY)
(7) Weil (NY)
(8) Linklaters (NYC)
(9) Proskauer Rose (NYC)
(10) Morrison & Foerster (NY)
(11) Sullivan & Cromwell (Europe)
(12) Kirkland & Ellis (NY)
(13) Skadden (NY)
(14) Covington & Burling (NY)
(15) Paul Hastings (NY)
(16) Mayer Brown (NY)
(17) Sidley Austin (NY)
(18) Millbank, Tweed (NY)
(19) Paul Weiss (NYC)
(20) Wachtell (NY)
(21) Skadden (London)
(22) Clifford Chance (NYC)
(23) Clifford Chance (London)
(24) Freshfields (NYC)
(25) Shearman & Sterling (NYC)
(26) Jones Day (NYC)
(27) Allen & Overy (London)
(28) Debevoise (NY)
(29) Allen & Overy (NY)
(30) Hogan Lovells (NY)
(31) Akin Gump (NY)
(32) Greenberg Traurig (NY)
(33) Wilkie Farr (NY)
(34) Cahill Gordon (NY)
(35) Schulte Roth (NY)
(36) Fried, Frank (NY)
(37) Sullivan & Cromwell (NY)
(38) Cleary Gottlieb (NY)
(39) Cleary Gottlieb (London)
(40) Davis Polk (NY)
(41) Latham (NYC)
(42) Simpson Thatcher (NYC)
I assume you don't go to Columbia?

NYUer realizes Columbia is much more awesome (and active), drops in to steal some of our excellent advice.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:47 pm

There will be no quarter given to NYU students in this thread.

You want some advice? Win Deans Cup whilst the c/o 2016 stands guard.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:50 pm

Haha okay fine, fine, you got me. You guys are just so wise :) want to help me out?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Tiago Splitter » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Haha okay fine, fine, you got me. You guys are just so wise :) want to help me out?
I don't know about NYU but at Columbia you typically aren't getting Proskauer with a bid below 1.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:49 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Haha okay fine, fine, you got me. You guys are just so wise :) want to help me out?
I don't know about NYU but at Columbia you typically aren't getting Proskauer with a bid below 1.
Good to know. Thanks! I didn't realize it was a particularly popular firm.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 3L and I just wanted to pop in to plug pre-EIP interviews. Especially for the Kents in this thread, but really for anyone above median, many firms will do resume/gpa-based "callbacks" over the summer. I know a lot of students locked down good offers last year that way and reduced the stress from EIP.

(Last year, it seemed like not everyone knew it was an option and some of the more connected people got an (extra) leg up because they knew about it—but it doesn't require any connections, just sending in a resume. The worst that can happen is they say to wait for EIP.)
When would be a good time to do this? Should we wait for honors confirmation and journals first?
Bumping this. I'm planning on emailing some of the partners that I clicked with at events/previous interviews, but that's only like 3-4 firms. Do we mass mail the recruiting contact at the rest of the firms we're planning to bid on?
I'd like to try this, too. Like the above poster, is it more advisable to wait until July 7 when we know which journal we're on? Also, I know July 7's the day for Law Review notice, but is that also the day we'll find out which other journals we're on if we don't make CLR?

Whenever we actually email firms, should we write cover letters or just send a resume and transcript and ask them to contact us if they want anything else?
I'm the 3L who started this discussion, so I thought I'd give my 2¢. That said, it'd be great if other 3Ls weigh in with different perspectives.

First, I don't think you should mass-mail everyone you bid on. EIP is a great way to get a broad selection of firms/you don't want to spend all summer interviewing. The idea is to reduce EIP stress by having a few early interviews/maybe locking down an offer—not to have twelve interviews in the summer. I'd aim for 3–5 of your top targets, but others might differ.

Along the same lines, I think you ought to do something to let a firm know that you aren't just blanketing NYC in pre-EIP apps. That could be a formal (and personalized!) cover letter, or it could just be text in an email with your resume/transcript attached. I'd probably go with just the email, but I think either would be fine.

As far as timing goes, I'm not really sure. I wasn't in NYC last summer, so I didn't send anything in until fairly late and my only pre-EIP interview was only about 1 week before. That wasn't ideal if you can do earlier; I didn't hear back until after EIP, so it wasn't as helpful as it could have been. (Still nice to have done it before, though). So, I'd vote on earlier being better. Again, it'd be nice to hear from other 3Ls.

As far as July 7th goes, non-CLR journals won't notify that day but shouldn't be much after that. I got a call the day after for my journal. I know we weren't the last to hear, but I think most were within a few days.

I didn't think I'd be posting in the 2014 thread enough to need a name, but it looks like I was wrong. I'll stick with the one from last year, then.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:55 pm

If I'm not bidding NY or CA and FFB isn't a concern because half my bids didn't fail last year, is this thread relevant to me? I'm not Stone, but I'm very very close, so offer by honors doesn't scare me too much.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Tiago Splitter » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If I'm not bidding NY or CA and FFB isn't a concern because half my bids didn't fail last year, is this thread relevant to me? I'm not Stone, but I'm very very close, so offer by honors doesn't scare me too much.
You should view the offer by honors report very conservatively. A big mistake people make is thinking that because they just passed the Stone cutoff that they stand a good chance at almost every firm that is 80%+ Stone, and that's just not the case. Sounds like you are making a similar mistake despite not even having the 3.41.

What makes your situation tricky is that firms in non-NYC markets just don't make that many offers, so one year they could be 100% Stone and the next year 33%. See if CSO can give you data for past years to help figure out just how selective firms are. Although it may not matter much if you're going to interview with every firm in a given market anyway.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:42 pm

Hey all, I just finished my first attempt at a bid list and would like some feedback. I have an A- average, HP in LPW (FWIW), and 2 years paralegal experience at a litigation boutique. Looking to do litigation - am particularly interested in joining a firm that has a good commercial or appellate litigation practice. The bolded firms are my top choices. All firms are NYC unless otherwise noted.

1. Boies Schiller
2. Kirkland & Ellis
3. Shearman & Sterling
4. Gibson Dunn
5. Sidley Austin
6. Skadden
7. Paul Hastings
8. Debovoise
9. Jones Day
10. White & Case
11. Weil Gotshal
12. Latham Watkins
13. Milbank
14. Sullivan & Cromwell
15. Cleary
16. Cahill Gordon
17. Davis Polk
18. Paul Weiss
19. Covington
20. Akin
21. Cadwallader
22. Kramer Levin
23. Cravath
24. O'Melveny
25. Orrick
26. Cooley
27. Simpson Thatcher
28. Curtis Mallet
29. Wachtell
30. Ropes & Grey (Boston if offered, otherwise, NY)

Also, I threw Wachtell on there because they have an amazing commercial litigation practice, but would drop them if my GPA was too low to even get a callback. Thoughts?

Finally, would also appreciate comments on whether I overlooked any good litigation firms or whether any of the firms on my list have a less than stellar litigation practice.

Thanks,
Publius

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Hey all, I just finished my first attempt at a bid list and would like some feedback. I have an A- average, HP in LPW (FWIW), and 2 years paralegal experience at a litigation boutique. Looking to do litigation - am particularly interested in joining a firm that has a good commercial or appellate litigation practice. The bolded firms are my top choices. All firms are NYC unless otherwise noted.

1. Boies Schiller
2. Kirkland & Ellis
3. Shearman & Sterling
4. Gibson Dunn
5. Sidley Austin
6. Skadden
7. Paul Hastings
8. Debovoise
9. Jones Day
10. White & Case
11. Weil Gotshal
12. Latham Watkins
13. Milbank
14. Sullivan & Cromwell
15. Cleary
16. Cahill Gordon
17. Davis Polk
18. Paul Weiss
19. Covington
20. Akin
21. Cadwallader
22. Kramer Levin
23. Cravath
24. O'Melveny
25. Orrick
26. Cooley
27. Simpson Thatcher
28. Curtis Mallet
29. Wachtell
30. Ropes & Grey (Boston if offered, otherwise, NY)

Also, I threw Wachtell on there because they have an amazing commercial litigation practice, but would drop them if my GPA was too low to even get a callback. Thoughts?

Finally, would also appreciate comments on whether I overlooked any good litigation firms or whether any of the firms on my list have a less than stellar litigation practice.

Thanks,
Publius
It seems fine, and if you have a 3.7, go ahead and bid Wachtell. You have as good a shot as anyone. Is this strictly NY, though? Are you going for Covington's NY or DC office?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey all, I just finished my first attempt at a bid list and would like some feedback. I have an A- average, HP in LPW (FWIW), and 2 years paralegal experience at a litigation boutique. Looking to do litigation - am particularly interested in joining a firm that has a good commercial or appellate litigation practice. The bolded firms are my top choices. All firms are NYC unless otherwise noted.

1. Boies Schiller
2. Kirkland & Ellis
3. Shearman & Sterling
4. Gibson Dunn
5. Sidley Austin
6. Skadden
7. Paul Hastings
8. Debovoise
9. Jones Day
10. White & Case
11. Weil Gotshal
12. Latham Watkins
13. Milbank
14. Sullivan & Cromwell
15. Cleary
16. Cahill Gordon
17. Davis Polk
18. Paul Weiss
19. Covington
20. Akin
21. Cadwallader
22. Kramer Levin
23. Cravath
24. O'Melveny
25. Orrick
26. Cooley
27. Simpson Thatcher
28. Curtis Mallet
29. Wachtell
30. Ropes & Grey (Boston if offered, otherwise, NY)

Also, I threw Wachtell on there because they have an amazing commercial litigation practice, but would drop them if my GPA was too low to even get a callback. Thoughts?

Finally, would also appreciate comments on whether I overlooked any good litigation firms or whether any of the firms on my list have a less than stellar litigation practice.

Thanks,
Publius
It seems fine, and if you have a 3.7, go ahead and bid Wachtell. You have as good a shot as anyone. Is this strictly NY, though? Are you going for Covington's NY or DC office?
Ya, all NY. May take a couple shots at Boston/DC once I have top bids settled, but am pretty committed to working in NY.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Hey all, I just finished my first attempt at a bid list and would like some feedback. I have an A- average, HP in LPW (FWIW), and 2 years paralegal experience at a litigation boutique. Looking to do litigation - am particularly interested in joining a firm that has a good commercial or appellate litigation practice. The bolded firms are my top choices. All firms are NYC unless otherwise noted.

1. Boies Schiller
2. Kirkland & Ellis
3. Shearman & Sterling
4. Gibson Dunn
5. Sidley Austin
6. Skadden
7. Paul Hastings
8. Debovoise
9. Jones Day
10. White & Case
11. Weil Gotshal
12. Latham Watkins
13. Milbank
14. Sullivan & Cromwell
15. Cleary
16. Cahill Gordon
17. Davis Polk
18. Paul Weiss
19. Covington
20. Akin
21. Cadwallader
22. Kramer Levin
23. Cravath
24. O'Melveny
25. Orrick
26. Cooley
27. Simpson Thatcher
28. Curtis Mallet
29. Wachtell
30. Ropes & Grey (Boston if offered, otherwise, NY)

Also, I threw Wachtell on there because they have an amazing commercial litigation practice, but would drop them if my GPA was too low to even get a callback. Thoughts?

Finally, would also appreciate comments on whether I overlooked any good litigation firms or whether any of the firms on my list have a less than stellar litigation practice.

Thanks,
Publius
Just thinking that your top 5 are all very popular firms, and they're all at the cut-off from last year. I wouldn't be surprised if you missed 1 or two. Now that everyone knows where the magic number is (since OCS published the last bid fail list, which they hadn't before), more people will be aiming to hit the cutoff or above. Maybe I'm just risk averse, but I would take out the one I'm least interested in in order to solidy the other few.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:35 pm

Has anyone ever heard of firms doing practice interviews with people who have shown interest? I was offered one (with a partner) in an email exchange with a recruiter after I asked about meeting with an associate in a specific practice group. I'm not sure what to make of it, besides just being extra practice for EIP. They've requested my resume but not my transcript.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone ever heard of firms doing practice interviews with people who have shown interest? I was offered one (with a partner) in an email exchange with a recruiter after I asked about meeting with an associate in a specific practice group. I'm not sure what to make of it, besides just being extra practice for EIP. They've requested my resume but not my transcript.
Do it. Only good things can come out of it (unless you manage to some how royally offend the partner).

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone ever heard of firms doing practice interviews with people who have shown interest? I was offered one (with a partner) in an email exchange with a recruiter after I asked about meeting with an associate in a specific practice group. I'm not sure what to make of it, besides just being extra practice for EIP. They've requested my resume but not my transcript.
Do it. Only good things can come out of it (unless you manage to some how royally offend the partner).
Oh I'm doing it, I'm just a little confused about why it was offered and whether it's a common thing for firms to do. But you're right that only good things can (hopefully) come of it.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:56 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If I'm not bidding NY or CA and FFB isn't a concern because half my bids didn't fail last year, is this thread relevant to me? I'm not Stone, but I'm very very close, so offer by honors doesn't scare me too much.
You should view the offer by honors report very conservatively. A big mistake people make is thinking that because they just passed the Stone cutoff that they stand a good chance at almost every firm that is 80%+ Stone, and that's just not the case. Sounds like you are making a similar mistake despite not even having the 3.41.

What makes your situation tricky is that firms in non-NYC markets just don't make that many offers, so one year they could be 100% Stone and the next year 33%. See if CSO can give you data for past years to help figure out just how selective firms are. Although it may not matter much if you're going to interview with every firm in a given market anyway.
Doesn't Stone put you in range for most NYC firms except the most grade selective ones like Sullivan Cromwell and Cravath?

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!


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