Cornell AJF 2014 + Boston / DC Job Fairs, OCI & Mass Mailing Forum

[Anonymous User]

Any clue on whether this was the entirety of the JLPP calls?[/quote]

The first round of calls should be done and offer emails out for secondary journals. But there's always movement as people transfer out.

[toothbrush]

The first round of calls should be done and offer emails out for secondary journals. But there's always movement as people transfer out.

another quality anon post.

what are you basing that on. if youre gunna anon atleast out a source or give some credibility.

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

The first round of calls should be done and offer emails out for secondary journals. But there's always movement as people transfer out.

another quality anon post.

what are you basing that on. if youre gunna anon atleast out a source or give some credibility.

On the board of one of the secondary journals.

[Anonymous User]

Resume question here: what's the protocol for putting Moot Court on our resume's since it's not an official team. Do we only include it if we made it past a certain level in Langfan or do people put it there if they participated in any way?

[toothbrush]

Resume question here: what's the protocol for putting Moot Court on our resume's since it's not an official team. Do we only include it if we made it past a certain level in Langfan or do people put it there if they participated in any way?

it should be on your resume under activities at the law school. if you made it to the top 32 you can say like top 32 or something, whatever youre called.

if you just did the first round of langfan say "competitor" or "participant" or something.

people who interview you from cornell will know langfan and may ask about it/the question as a point of conversation - so def. include it.

check out a bunch of 3ls linkedins and they include langfan to varying degrees (you can use that language for examples).

pm me for deets/specific examples

[spiritniffler189]

Resume question here: what's the protocol for putting Moot Court on our resume's since it's not an official team. Do we only include it if we made it past a certain level in Langfan or do people put it there if they participated in any way?

it should be on your resume under activities at the law school. if you made it to the top 32 you can say like top 32 or something, whatever youre called.

if you just did the first round of langfan say "competitor" or "participant" or something.

people who interview you from cornell will know langfan and may ask about it/the question as a point of conversation - so def. include it.

check out a bunch of 3ls linkedins and they include langfan to varying degrees (you can use that language for examples).

pm me for deets/specific examples

Only thing I'd add is if you didn't make it to quarter/semifinals, I wouldn't put anything other than participant. I had a weird experience early on where someone called me out for having Round of 32 and it looks funny IMO. But definitely true that people will ask about Langfan problem -- I had one where the firm had represented a company in a case that was cited throughout the Langfan problem and they asked what I thought about that case.

[Anonymous User]

The first round of calls should be done and offer emails out for secondary journals. But there's always movement as people transfer out.

another quality anon post.

what are you basing that on. if youre gunna anon atleast out a source or give some credibility.

On the board of one of the secondary journals.

is it true that virtually everyone who has made a legitimate effort gets in one of the journals? like only a dozen got no offer at all?

[BullShitWithBravado]

The first round of calls should be done and offer emails out for secondary journals. But there's always movement as people transfer out.

another quality anon post.

what are you basing that on. if youre gunna anon atleast out a source or give some credibility.

On the board of one of the secondary journals.

is it true that virtually everyone who has made a legitimate effort gets in one of the journals? like only a dozen got no offer at all?

Not exactly, since there are approximately 140 journal spots available. However, anyone who doesn't make it onto a journal through the writing competition can try to write on for JLPP or note on for ILJ.

[Anonymous User]

Can anyone speak as to what work on for JLPP entails?

[BullShitWithBravado]

Can anyone speak as to what work on for JLPP entails?

I haven't seen how it works firsthand, but this is from the JLPP Website:

"Students not offered a position on the Journal by the write-on or composite-on methods, will be given the opportunity to apply for one of the limited number of positions we extend for work-on membership. These students should submit (1) an introductory letter of interest (2) a 2-page personal statement explaining why the student is interested in public policy (3) resume (4) and writing sample from Lawyering (no longer than 5 pages and not substantially edited by anyone other than the law student."

Members who work on get extra assignments throughout the year. Also, only the EIC and the EE know which journal members worked on (not that anyone would be judgmental about that anyway).

An email should be going out soon with more information about the work on process. If you don't hear anything in a few days, it might be a good idea to email the EIC or the EE for more information.

[Feeny]

JLPP rejection email this morn.

Count me in as a no-journal-haver. Blessing in disguise perhaps.

[toothbrush]

JLPP rejection email this morn.

Count me in as a no-journal-haver. Blessing in disguise perhaps.

you planning to do ajf? just have a solid reason/ something lined up to explain it away.

examples:

i enrolled in the transactional lawyering class (or some practicum) and knew that i wanted to invest a lot of time into it as it is closely in line w/ my goals while academia was not my main focus

i planned to work for x professor who is known to be very demanding

i am doing x clinic and y seminar that are both very relevant to my goals and i wanted to succeed.


being no-journaled matters not; just be able to explain it away. no one cares about journals in the real world, save a few clerkships and attorneys who you dont want to like you anyway.

[Lincoln]

JLPP rejection email this morn.

Count me in as a no-journal-haver. Blessing in disguise perhaps.

you planning to do ajf? just have a solid reason/ something lined up to explain it away.

examples:

i enrolled in the transactional lawyering class (or some practicum) and knew that i wanted to invest a lot of time into it as it is closely in line w/ my goals while academia was not my main focus

i planned to work for x professor who is known to be very demanding

i am doing x clinic and y seminar that are both very relevant to my goals and i wanted to succeed.


being no-journaled matters not; just be able to explain it away. no one cares about journals in the real world, save a few clerkships and attorneys who you dont want to like you anyway.

Maybe this is just me, but all of these sound like pretty blatant post-hoc rationales for not doing a journal. I can think of two or three people I know from Cornell who legitimately didn't do a journal because they didn't want to, but two got offers from journals that they turned down and one had career goals that led him to conclude it wasn't the best use of his time.

This: "I must have screwed up the writing competition somehow, because I was fairly surprised I didn't get a journal offer. But maybe it's for the best; I intend to spend more time on [insert something time-consuming]." is something I'd be much more willing to swallow than someone saying their being a research assistant for Dorf prevents them from doing JLPP a few hours a week, especially considering many, many people who do any of the activities you mention are on boards of journals and do moot court and clinics and run student organizations, etc.

[Anonymous User]

I was a work-on for JLPP, and really, it wasn't too bad. Only one assignment had extra footnotes to source/prove/edit, and JLPP has so many members to divide the work between that the workload isn't too terrible, anyway. I would say the benefits far outweigh the costs when it comes to being a work-on, especially in terms of OCI.

[Anonymous User]

JLPP rejection email this morn.

Count me in as a no-journal-haver. Blessing in disguise perhaps.

Don't feel bad, I also didn't get one. Definite blessing in disguise.

[Anonymous User]

Why do we even do this last minute grabbing of extra spots? It seems so silly-- nothing fits in my schedule and I don't have a technical degree.

Did anyone even get something they wanted from open slots?

[Lavitz]

Why do we even do this last minute grabbing of extra spots? It seems so silly-- nothing fits in my schedule and I don't have a technical degree.

Did anyone even get something they wanted from open slots?

Yes. I got something I liked. And I know of two others who did as well.

[BullShitWithBravado]

Why do we even do this last minute grabbing of extra spots? It seems so silly-- nothing fits in my schedule and I don't have a technical degree.

Did anyone even get something they wanted from open slots?

Yes. I got something I liked. And I know of two others who did as well.

Don't worry if you didn't get anything this time. You'll probably have one or two more chances to grab slots through bidding. Just keep an eye out for emails from career services.

[Arkham]

Why do we even do this last minute grabbing of extra spots? It seems so silly-- nothing fits in my schedule and I don't have a technical degree.

Did anyone even get something they wanted from open slots?

I added one interview on Wednesday. It's not one that I wanted particularly badly, but definitely one that I would accept in the absence of any other offers, so why not?

[Lavitz]

Reopened poll for fun.

[toothbrush]

Why do we even do this last minute grabbing of extra spots? It seems so silly-- nothing fits in my schedule and I don't have a technical degree.

Did anyone even get something they wanted from open slots?

Def people getting good stuff. Just keep posted as transfers file out officially slots will open.

How could it ever be a bad thing for you?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard of people being notified about JLPP work-on membership yet today?

[spiritniffler189]

Has anyone heard of people being notified about JLPP work-on membership yet today?

I know one person who was notified that they got on.

[Anonymous User]

Employer outreach starting. Got an e-mail from a firm asking me to do a 10-minute screener with them on Monday. Bid on them but didn't e-mail them for a slot. Happen to anyone else?