1L Summer Job Search C/O 2017 Forum

[Anonymous User]

weil snail mail ding post cb

dings falling like snow now

[chuckbass]

Welp onto mass mailing for free labor

[MKC]

Welp onto mass mailing for free labor

Don't forget in-house stuff if you haven't already applied to everything remotely possible.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone at ALL been successful in landing a 1L SA interview OUTSIDE of OCI (besides diversity apps). so many dings

Yes. I got all of my interviews through mass mailing. 7 requests for callbacks, 4 actual callbacks, and 3 offers from about 25 emails sent. (T14 median + EE degree)

Pretty much the same here. Mass-mailed ~20 firms in one market, four callbacks, two offers. T20 median + CS degree.

[Pikappraider]

Am I doing something wrong?

I'm probably 5th in my class right now at USC. I've applied to over 100 firms, only received 3 interviews through OCI (out of 4 firms) and I've had 2 CBs. I feel like my grades should have given me a better chance at a firm job. Is the LA market just not feeling 1Ls or what?

What should I do now?

Non-URM, K-JD

100 firms is nothing. 2 CBs is really solid. Most people won't get 1L SAs, they are tough to get. The LA market in particular probably my isn't going to jump all over 1Ls.

Now is probably the time I start applying to non-firm stuff if you haven't already.

Yeah, 2 CBs in LA for a non urm, non IP, 1L is a very good result.

[Pikappraider]

What's the protocol on being invited to "lunch with some more attorneys" after already having done a 3 hour callback interview? Is this like a victory lap sorta thing or srs business? And credited is just to order a salad and only eat half, right?

It depends on the restaurant. If its a steakhouse get steak etc. Also, if the attorneys are all ordering meals, don't be a bitch and order salad. These lunches are pretty fun. You seem like a chill, sociable, bro, so you should be fine at this thing.

[Anonymous User]

dress code for post-offer 'getting to know you' lunch is presumptively suit and tie right

[BigZuck]

What's the protocol on being invited to "lunch with some more attorneys" after already having done a 3 hour callback interview? Is this like a victory lap sorta thing or srs business? And credited is just to order a salad and only eat half, right?

It depends on the restaurant. If its a steakhouse get steak etc. Also, if the attorneys are all ordering meals, don't be a bitch and order salad. These lunches are pretty fun. You seem like a chill, sociable, bro, so you should be fine at this thing.

I ordered a salad at a steakhouse on one of these lunches

I wanted to get steak but the attorneys ordered sandwiches and I wasn't about that life.

Was quite the conundrum. At least it had ahi tuna on it?

[Kratos]

What's the protocol on being invited to "lunch with some more attorneys" after already having done a 3 hour callback interview? Is this like a victory lap sorta thing or srs business? And credited is just to order a salad and only eat half, right?

It depends on the restaurant. If its a steakhouse get steak etc. Also, if the attorneys are all ordering meals, don't be a bitch and order salad. These lunches are pretty fun. You seem like a chill, sociable, bro, so you should be fine at this thing.

I dunno if I would characterize them as fun, but different strokes.

Anyway, I doubt what you order really matters unless you get something super messy and sloppy or you get greedy and order something super expensive.

[MKC]

What's the protocol on being invited to "lunch with some more attorneys" after already having done a 3 hour callback interview? Is this like a victory lap sorta thing or srs business? And credited is just to order a salad and only eat half, right?

It depends on the restaurant. If its a steakhouse get steak etc. Also, if the attorneys are all ordering meals, don't be a bitch and order salad. These lunches are pretty fun. You seem like a chill, sociable, bro, so you should be fine at this thing.

I dunno if I would characterize them as fun, but different strokes.

Anyway, I doubt what you order really matters unless you get something super messy and sloppy or you get greedy and order something super expensive.

Post offer? "Waiter! I'll have the surf and turf, and a bottle of Dom for each of us! We're celebrating!"

[Anonymous User]

Baker Botts Dallas ding. Interviewed over winter break, CCN ~top 20%

[Anonymous User]

Baker Botts Dallas ding. Interviewed over winter break, CCN ~top 20%

Same, HYS

[Anonymous User]

Rejected at 4 firms I've had callbacks at so far; still waiting on the verdict from the last one. Secondary market with ties, CCN, ~median grades, unique work experience.

What's the protocol re: asking for feedback from firms that dinged you? I scheduled all these callbacks before grades came out, so I'm trying to figure out if it was my mediocre grades or shitty personality that torpedoed me.

[pancakes3]

Rejected at 4 firms I've had callbacks at so far; still waiting on the verdict from the last one. Secondary market with ties, CCN, ~median grades, unique work experience.

What's the protocol re: asking for feedback from firms that dinged you? I scheduled all these callbacks before grades came out, so I'm trying to figure out if it was my mediocre grades or shitty personality that torpedoed me.

Judging from you wanting feedback, it's probably your shitty personality.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard from:

Gibson LA
Hogan LA
Foley and Lardner Chicago

[Ron Don Volante]

quick Q: if we're going to do something unpaid and are not going to get a stipend for it, how long does the internship have to be to not raise any eyebrows in OCI? Ten weeks or is something like eight OK?

[runinthefront]

quick Q: if we're going to do something unpaid and are not going to get a stipend for it, how long does the internship have to be to not raise any eyebrows in OCI? Ten weeks or is something like eight OK?

it's going to be listed on your resume in terms of months, right? Why would they know whether you were working for ten weeks or eight unless you told them? I would say "I was at X place for 2 (or two and a half) months" or "I worked here from May to July" or "this is what I did this summer..."

[Anonymous User]

i know a kid at H deciding between cravath and s&c. must have the best options in the entire class.

[Ron Don Volante]

I was thinking either way I'd list it as "summer 2015" as it looks better than listing months IMO. Was more curious if it is the kind of thing you'd get called out on in an interview.

[Anonymous User]

Have some info I haven't seen mentioned. This is what I've heard from friends at CCN, it's not from personal knowledge so no guarantee as to accuracy.
Proskauer NY has started making offers. DLA NY had callbacks. In case you didn't know, their 1L program basically guarantees you a 2L offer. Epstein Becker & Green NY and Lowenstein Sandler NJ are doing callbacks now.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard from:

Gibson LA
Hogan LA
Foley and Lardner Chicago

Snail mail ding from Gibson LA and an email ding from Hogan both back in late January/early February. Applied Dec. 1. CCN no screener

[georgej]

Thanks for all the lunch info, guys. Looks like the optimal order to place is a fish based salad of some sort and eat 74%. BUT HOW MUCH SHOULD I TIP?

[Anonymous User]

Welp onto mass mailing for free labor

Don't forget in-house stuff if you haven't already applied to everything remotely possible.

Remind us how to get in-house stuff again? Mass-mail legal depts or "network"?

Are they as stingy about 1L grades, assuming you go to a T6?

[Anonymous User]

i know a kid at H deciding between cravath and s&c. must have the best options in the entire class.

Can you confirm whether the person you have in mind is K.W. or someone else?

Cravath 1L is amazing but there are a few of them at H every year. S&C, according to Chambers, only hires 1L a year and I know the person who got it last year or the year before, and he was K-JD but otherwise insane.

[Anonymous User]

i know a kid at H deciding between cravath and s&c. must have the best options in the entire class.

Can you confirm whether the person you have in mind is K.W. or someone else?

Cravath 1L is amazing but there are a few of them at H every year. S&C, according to Chambers, only hires 1L a year and I know the person who got it last year or the year before, and he was K-JD but otherwise insane.

Actually I'm thinking of H.D.