UChicago OCI 2012 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Almost all firms last year did rolling callbacks

not true, there was only one instance in last year's thread of a person getting a "rolling callback" from a firm. i don't know anyone who got a cb after initial calls went out.

[Haymarket]

Almost all firms last year did rolling callbacks

not true ... i don't know anyone

Very authoritative source.

[JollyGreenGiant]

My understanding of "rolling callbacks" is that you might get a CB a day after someone else. But if it's a couple days or week later, your rejection is probably in the mail. As the person said above, I only heard of one true "rolling callback" which came much later after the initial wave. But some firms, like Mayer Brown, posted on Symplicity in November/December looking for summer associates.

Best of luck everyone with OCI. Even though it is incredibly stressful, it is awesome getting your first CB phone call.

[Emma.]

My understanding of "rolling callbacks" is that you might get a CB a day after someone else. But if it's a couple days or week later, your rejection is probably in the mail. As the person said above, I only heard of one true "rolling callback" which came much later after the initial wave. But some firms, like Mayer Brown, posted on Symplicity in November/December looking for summer associates.

Best of luck everyone with OCI. Even though it is incredibly stressful, it is awesome getting your first CB phone call.

My bad, I overstated this when I said "quite a bit later." I definitely know there were firms giving out callbacks a couple days after the first ones went out, and based on anecdotes I thought there was an even broader spread than that between the first and last CBs. I just didn't want people thinking that they have definitely missed the "initial wave" of CBs if they didn't hear from a firm on the same day that a report of a callback is posted on here.

[Anonymous User]

Latham CB

Which office?

NY

Let's make a mandatory rule that when you say you got a CB, you must also say which office. Since offices pretty much always differ on their callback schedules, this will eliminate a whole of unnecessary freaking out for everyone else.

[Anonymous User]

As a heads up, a friend of mine who summered at Winston in Chicago just told me that roughly one third of their class got no-offered. Might not be the best choice if you have other options.

[anewaphorist]

Confirmation of Winston's stealth layoffs and no-offers. Looks like the previous Anon poster made the article: http://abovethelaw.com/2012/08/nationwi ... on-strawn/

[Anonymous User]

[deleted since comment isn't relevant to OCI]. Apologies!

[Anonymous User]

One senior associate went to check a do not staff list (lists used to choke hours of associates that Winston wants to get rid of) when she wanted to staff a project. To her horror she discovered her name on the list.

Isn't this the plot of the JGL/Bruce Willis movie coming out?

In all seriousness, that's horrible. I'm the anon poster from above (whose comment made ATL). In terms of the environment, somebody at the firm muttered, "This is probably what it felt like when people at Dewey started to realize the firm was starting to sink...." (Note: I am in no way saying that Winston is going the route of Dewey or is anywhere close, this is just the analogy that s/he drew; I think it gives you some idea of the nervousness at the firm right now.)

[anewaphorist]

With good reason, it would seem. Thanks for sharing your candid experiences with this board (and me, an incoming 1L).

[Anonymous User]

Stroock CB

[Anonymous User]

anyone get a Gunderson cb yet? curious.

[Anonymous User]

S&C callback

[Anonymous User]

Anything from Latham SF? Or Davis Polk MP?

[Anonymous User]

CB from Latham Chicago.

[Anonymous User]

Latham NY callback +1

[Anonymous User]

Sheppard NY CB

+1 Stroock NY

[Haymarket]

With good reason, it would seem. Thanks for sharing your candid experiences with this board (and me, an incoming 1L).

With all due respect, GOD DAMN 0LS GET OUT OF LEGAL EMPLOYMENT.

[Anonymous User]

Baker McKenzie (Chicago) email CB 10:15 this morning.

[Anonymous User]

Baker McKenzie (Chicago) email CB 10:15 this morning.

Mind sharing stats?

[Anonymous User]

Baker McKenzie (Chicago) email CB 10:15 this morning.

Mind sharing stats?

178.4-7, no LR

[Anonymous User]

baker & mc callback e-mail +1

[Hamilton]

As for backup, look to the 2011-12 announcements which show over 60 honors grads. As for confusion, there is none. Just because every 1L class has a 177 median except Lrw does not mean that the median cumulative GPA is 177. given the distribution, it simply won't work out that way.

2012 grad here- The stats on the back of the transcripts do not indicate whether those percentages are cumulative or not. I'm guessing they are not, because it makes more sense that way. Both c/o 2011 and 2012 had about 30% graduate with some sort of honors. The cumulative percentage on the back of the transcripts indicate about 25% graduating with some sort of honors. So by graduation, usually 25-30% of the class has a 179...

BUT, when comparing your 1L GPA to the graduation stats on the back of the transcript, you have to include the fact that transfer students (in addition to seminars/clinics) also skew class average gpas upward by the time of graduation. I.E. In my year, transfer students made up about 10% of the graduating class. That 10% come in with a 0.0 gpa at the beginning of 2L year, and they get the benefit of being able to take (potentially) more than 1/3 of their UChicago credits at a 179 median. While transfers don't get the benefit of their good 1L gpas at their prior school, they do start fresh, with the opportunity to take a greater percentage of their GPA credits in courses that offer the higher median. When you combine transfers with the fact that medians raise in 2L and 3L year for everyone, I'm guessing the stats on the back of the transcript are not applicable to the overall 1L class. So yes, the average 1L gpa is probably higher than a 177.0, but probably not much (I'm guessing.)

That being said. I HIGHLY doubt employers are actually calculating out GPA for you all. I bet they just (as was suggested) eyeball grades quickly. When you see that many transcripts, you can probably do a quick sort into quartiles just from a glance.

PS- Good luck to you all.

[Anonymous User]

Jones Day NY

[Bildungsroman]

Jones Day NY

Aren't they doing their screeners today? Does this mean the CB offer came in-person at the end of the interview?

And congrats!