Miami biglaw Forum

[Anonymous User]

Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.

What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?

[koalatriste]

Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.

What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?

have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.

[Anonymous User]

Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.

What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?

have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.

not sure what you mean - care to expand?

thanks

[Anonymous User]

Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.

What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?

have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.

S&C callbacks are candyland compared to those at most any other firm . . .

[Anonymous User]

Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.

What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?

have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.

I'm convinced that the hiring partner at Bilzin uses the firm callbacks to gain insight on the hiring practices at other firms. It is highly invasive. The entire experience was rather adversarial compared to other Miami callbacks including top firms. It was not just "what do you like about our firm" but rather "what did you dislike about the others, specifically".

[Anonymous User]

T6 anon, here. I worked at another shop in town with a lot of Bilzin refugees; the recurring theme is that Bilzin uses its associates purely as a profit center, and burns them out when they're tired. I heard some horror stories about maternity leave, too.

[SleekFire]

T6 anon. Not sure if you are responding to these PM requests. But I'd love to hear more about your career in Miami....

[Anonymous User]

what do you want to know

[SleekFire]

Where you have worked, your impressions of those firms, what you think of the Miami area in general...

Of course, if you are hesitant to share - I understand!

[Anonymous User]

I worked at one of the top miami firms; pros: the accessibility of the work, the fact sets (miami is ridiculous), the lifestyle, and it's home so that's a pro. i think the drawbacks are identical to its pros -- it's a small market, that's extremely insular, doing mid-market work. your options of lateraling out of miami are smaller, and the work you will do will rarely make the WSJ front cover.

That being said, if you can crack the market, and you're happy to stay down there, it's not a bad place to be.

[duckmoney]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know anything about non-Miami FL markets like Tampa, Orlando, and Jacksonville? Or are these places just not-very-elaborate flames?

[Anonymous User]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know anything about non-Miami FL markets like Tampa, Orlando, and Jacksonville? Or are these places just not-very-elaborate flames?

They're secondary markets that are similar in many respects to what T6 anon just mentioned. Typically insular, mid-to-small-market type work, less lateral options. Each of the cities mentioned has a distinctive feel. Those are all small legal communities, but not so small that it's unbearable.

The not-very-elaborate flame aspect of these markets is likely that they like people from the area (i.e. Tampa firms prefer Tampa natives, as a general rule) and are suspicious of outsiders, especially those with little to no ties to the area.

[DallasCowboy]

If you have ties and are from the T-14, I think they are a lot easier than Miami. Should be able to get plenty of mass-mail cbs. The big thing is letting them know you want to stay there with your fancy degree.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?

I believe this is frowned upon (almost) everywhere. And by frowned upon, I mean that firms will not entertain such a discussion/negotiation.

[Anonymous User]

did anyone accept in miami anywhere?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?

I believe this is frowned upon (almost) everywhere. And by frowned upon, I mean that firms will not entertain such a discussion/negotiation.

Not true. Personal experience.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?

I believe this is frowned upon (almost) everywhere. And by frowned upon, I mean that firms will not entertain such a discussion/negotiation.

Not true. Personal experience.

National firms would not be open to this. Regional firms may be more flexible.

[Anonymous User]

What's the scoop on Holland & Knight's Miami office? How big a player are they in Miami? How well managed is the firm? What's their general reputation, prestige, etc?

[Malcolm8X]

tag

[Anonymous User]

Das Bump

[Anonymous User]

I think this thread should be restarted for 2012. So, any experiences? I interviewed with Weil and was told that they are expecting to take an additional summer associate this year. Hopefully this is a trend that will show up across the board.

[elterrible78]

Tagging this, because I'm very interested.

Based on everything I have read, Miami is a pretty small market, comparatively. Assuming I get into Harvard and graduate somewhere around the middle (a massive assumption, I realize, but indulge me), would my wife's family's living in the area (they are Brazilian, but her mom is an exec with JP Morgan in Miami), fluency in Spanish and Portuguese, and an MA in Latin American politics and economics be enough to crack it? Prior to marrying my wife, I had no ties to Florida at all, but we'd really like to settle down there, and I've been massively interested at doing some kind of work with/in Latin America for years, and have a CV that demonstrates at least that interest.

Thanks for anyone who can give some insight.

[JusticeHarlan]

Tagging this, because I'm very interested.

Based on everything I have read, Miami is a pretty small market, comparatively. Assuming I get into Harvard and graduate somewhere around the middle (a massive assumption, I realize, but indulge me), would my wife's family's living in the area (they are Brazilian, but her mom is an exec with JP Morgan in Miami), fluency in Spanish and Portuguese, and an MA in Latin American politics and economics be enough to crack it? Prior to marrying my wife, I had no ties to Florida at all, but we'd really like to settle down there, and I've been massively interested at doing some kind of work with/in Latin America for years, and have a CV that demonstrates at least that interest.

Thanks for anyone who can give some insight.

This may help:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=189981

[elterrible78]

Tagging this, because I'm very interested.

Based on everything I have read, Miami is a pretty small market, comparatively. Assuming I get into Harvard and graduate somewhere around the middle (a massive assumption, I realize, but indulge me), would my wife's family's living in the area (they are Brazilian, but her mom is an exec with JP Morgan in Miami), fluency in Spanish and Portuguese, and an MA in Latin American politics and economics be enough to crack it? Prior to marrying my wife, I had no ties to Florida at all, but we'd really like to settle down there, and I've been massively interested at doing some kind of work with/in Latin America for years, and have a CV that demonstrates at least that interest.

Thanks for anyone who can give some insight.

This may help:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=189981

Thanks very much.