Columbia EIP 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard either way from Perkins Coie or Herbert Smith Freehills? I know Perkins was interviewing for a bunch of offices, so it probably varies.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard either way from Perkins Coie or Herbert Smith Freehills? I know Perkins was interviewing for a bunch of offices, so it probably varies.

Know someone who has a CB from Herbert Smith, he heard the day after.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody got dings from Pillsbury, Dechert, Curtis Mallet, Baker McKenzie, Sheppard Mullin? All NY.

[Anonymous User]

Can anyone advise what the mood/setting of callback receptions are like - are there formal activities? I've got two on the same evening and was wondering if I can leave early from one, and go late for the other. Would that be rude? Really want the chance to know more about both firms though.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody got dings from Pillsbury, Dechert, Curtis Mallet, Baker McKenzie, Sheppard Mullin? All NY.

Snail mail ding from Curtis just now. What a waste of paper.

[Anonymous User]

Does Cleary give out dings? I assume I'm done for but I haven't heard anything.

[Anonymous User]

On that subject, anyone received dings from: Kirkland, Akin, White & Case, Cadwalader, or MoFo?

I got a CWT ding yesterday (JW).

I don't suppose anyone has heard from Mayer Brown UU, Pillsbury MM, or Cahill JS?

[Anonymous User]

Barring some late miracle I will have just two CBs, both next week. Last year each firm had a 50%-60% offer ratio - but with just two there's clearly not a lot of room for error.

What I'm asking is this: can anyone who's been through the process already give some tips/advice? I'm a nervous wreck right now.

Control what you can control. Breathe a little. Think carefully about your interview style over the weekend to make sure you're in that 50-60%. And in case you're not, start mass mailing now.

I'm in the exact same boat. I only have 2 callbacks, both this upcoming week. I called OCS on Thursday. Marsha told me not to worry about mass-mailing until at least after the callbacks. She said to spend the time between now and then focusing on preparing for the interviews, not worrying about other firms. She also said that some firms take as long as 3 weeks after EIP to give out callbacks (Petal told me the same number when I asked during EIP). The implication there seemed to be not to start mass-mailing for 3 weeks (I guess 2 now), but if I haven't heard anything by Thursday or Friday I'm going to call OCS again and ask how to effectively go about mass-mailing.

Curious about the bolded. Can anyone confirm that firms take that long? I still have almost half of my screeners with no CB/ding and no evidence of anything on here. Moving forward assuming they're all dings (the most logical way of proceeding) leaves me VERY uncomfortable, but if even a couple were late CBs I'd feel a lot better.

[Anonymous User]

Anything from Orrick LM, Cahill EK, Dechert LS, Paul Hastings AN, Cadwalader GS, Milbank PD, Ropes and Gray GL?

Also, around what time does mass mailing become ineffective?

[Anonymous User]

Barring some late miracle I will have just two CBs, both next week. Last year each firm had a 50%-60% offer ratio - but with just two there's clearly not a lot of room for error.

What I'm asking is this: can anyone who's been through the process already give some tips/advice? I'm a nervous wreck right now.

Control what you can control. Breathe a little. Think carefully about your interview style over the weekend to make sure you're in that 50-60%. And in case you're not, start mass mailing now.

I'm in the exact same boat. I only have 2 callbacks, both this upcoming week. I called OCS on Thursday. Marsha told me not to worry about mass-mailing until at least after the callbacks. She said to spend the time between now and then focusing on preparing for the interviews, not worrying about other firms. She also said that some firms take as long as 3 weeks after EIP to give out callbacks (Petal told me the same number when I asked during EIP). The implication there seemed to be not to start mass-mailing for 3 weeks (I guess 2 now), but if I haven't heard anything by Thursday or Friday I'm going to call OCS again and ask how to effectively go about mass-mailing.

Curious about the bolded. Can anyone confirm that firms take that long? I still have almost half of my screeners with no CB/ding and no evidence of anything on here. Moving forward assuming they're all dings (the most logical way of proceeding) leaves me VERY uncomfortable, but if even a couple were late CBs I'd feel a lot better.

If you wait any longer, mass mailing will no longer have any impact. Mass mail applications should have gone out during or before EIP. OCS is simply providing more bad advice by saying you can wait three weeks.

[Anonymous User]

I have a friend who I keep urging and urging to mass mail, as she has 2 cbs with not very large class sizes. She keeps saying it's okay to wait longer and cites OCS advice. I know I can't make her do anything, but it's killing me.

[Anonymous User]

I'm in the exact same boat. I only have 2 callbacks, both this upcoming week. I called OCS on Thursday. Marsha told me not to worry about mass-mailing until at least after the callbacks. She said to spend the time between now and then focusing on preparing for the interviews, not worrying about other firms. She also said that some firms take as long as 3 weeks after EIP to give out callbacks (Petal told me the same number when I asked during EIP). The implication there seemed to be not to start mass-mailing for 3 weeks (I guess 2 now), but if I haven't heard anything by Thursday or Friday I'm going to call OCS again and ask how to effectively go about mass-mailing.

Curious about the bolded. Can anyone confirm that firms take that long? I still have almost half of my screeners with no CB/ding and no evidence of anything on here. Moving forward assuming they're all dings (the most logical way of proceeding) leaves me VERY uncomfortable, but if even a couple were late CBs I'd feel a lot better.

If you wait any longer, mass mailing will no longer have any impact. Mass mail applications should have gone out during or before EIP. OCS is simply providing more bad advice by saying you can wait three weeks.

I sent out about ~50 last month, but if the market you have ties to is essentially non-existent then it's tough. There's very little NYC-area Midlaw that doesn't come to EIP, much less Biglaw.

[Anonymous User]

I'm in the exact same boat. I only have 2 callbacks, both this upcoming week. I called OCS on Thursday. Marsha told me not to worry about mass-mailing until at least after the callbacks. She said to spend the time between now and then focusing on preparing for the interviews, not worrying about other firms. She also said that some firms take as long as 3 weeks after EIP to give out callbacks (Petal told me the same number when I asked during EIP). The implication there seemed to be not to start mass-mailing for 3 weeks (I guess 2 now), but if I haven't heard anything by Thursday or Friday I'm going to call OCS again and ask how to effectively go about mass-mailing.

Curious about the bolded. Can anyone confirm that firms take that long? I still have almost half of my screeners with no CB/ding and no evidence of anything on here. Moving forward assuming they're all dings (the most logical way of proceeding) leaves me VERY uncomfortable, but if even a couple were late CBs I'd feel a lot better.

If you wait any longer, mass mailing will no longer have any impact. Mass mail applications should have gone out during or before EIP. OCS is simply providing more bad advice by saying you can wait three weeks.

I sent out about ~50 last month, but if the market you have ties to is essentially non-existent then it's tough. There's very little NYC-area Midlaw that doesn't come to EIP, much less Biglaw.

Seconding this - I sent out a lot before EIP, and the only hits came from a secondary market I have really strong ties to. And even those took a few weeks to get back to me.

[Anonymous User]

Boies corp snail mail ding.

[Anonymous User]

If you wait any longer, mass mailing will no longer have any impact. Mass mail applications should have gone out during or before EIP. OCS is simply providing more bad advice by saying you can wait three weeks.

I'm curious as to why you're saying waiting an extra week or 2 is too long. Do you have some info that OCS either doesn't have or isn't willing to share? I agree that 3 weeks after EIP seems like a long time, but focusing on the upcoming callbacks rather than starting mass-mailing right away seems like good advice. Ultimately, the callbacks are still the best chance to get a job. Also, would waiting an extra 4 business days until after the callbacks (Thursday or Friday of this week, which would be about a week and a half after EIP) really make a huge difference?

[Anonymous User]

Edit: removing double post

[Anonymous User]

If you wait any longer, mass mailing will no longer have any impact. Mass mail applications should have gone out during or before EIP. OCS is simply providing more bad advice by saying you can wait three weeks.

I'm curious as to why you're saying waiting an extra week or 2 is too long. Do you have some info that OCS either doesn't have or isn't willing to share? I agree that 3 weeks after EIP seems like a long time, but focusing on the upcoming callbacks rather than starting mass-mailing right away seems like good advice. Ultimately, the callbacks are still the best chance to get a job. Also, would waiting an extra 4 business days until after the callbacks (Thursday or Friday of this week, which would be about a week and a half after EIP) really make a huge difference?

Why can't you mass mail and prepare for callbacks? Seems like the best strategy to me

[Anonymous User]

Barring some late miracle I will have just two CBs, both next week. Last year each firm had a 50%-60% offer ratio - but with just two there's clearly not a lot of room for error.

What I'm asking is this: can anyone who's been through the process already give some tips/advice? I'm a nervous wreck right now.

Control what you can control. Breathe a little. Think carefully about your interview style over the weekend to make sure you're in that 50-60%. And in case you're not, start mass mailing now.

I'm in the exact same boat. I only have 2 callbacks, both this upcoming week. I called OCS on Thursday. Marsha told me not to worry about mass-mailing until at least after the callbacks. She said to spend the time between now and then focusing on preparing for the interviews, not worrying about other firms. She also said that some firms take as long as 3 weeks after EIP to give out callbacks (Petal told me the same number when I asked during EIP). The implication there seemed to be not to start mass-mailing for 3 weeks (I guess 2 now), but if I haven't heard anything by Thursday or Friday I'm going to call OCS again and ask how to effectively go about mass-mailing.

Curious about the bolded. Can anyone confirm that firms take that long? I still have almost half of my screeners with no CB/ding and no evidence of anything on here. Moving forward assuming they're all dings (the most logical way of proceeding) leaves me VERY uncomfortable, but if even a couple were late CBs I'd feel a lot better.

A recent graduate got her callback to the firm she's starting her job at in the last week of august, after her trip to Vegas. I have only 1 cb so far, and a lot pending. Her advice to me: get outta town, stop worrying. If they are meant to come, they will. I'm taking that advice.

[Tiago Splitter]

A recent graduate got her callback to the firm she's starting her job at in the last week of august, after her trip to Vegas. I have only 1 cb so far, and a lot pending. Her advice to me: get outta town, stop worrying. If they are meant to come, they will. I'm taking that advice.

This sounds like horrible advice. This is the best chance any of you will have to find a job and I recommend taking advantage of it.

[lunaraeon]

A recent graduate got her callback to the firm she's starting her job at in the last week of august, after her trip to Vegas. I have only 1 cb so far, and a lot pending. Her advice to me: get outta town, stop worrying. If they are meant to come, they will. I'm taking that advice.

This sounds like horrible advice. This is the best chance any of you will have to find a job and I recommend taking advantage of it.

Agreed. You have one CB. Unless you would be comfortable having only that one CB if the pending decisions don't work out, you should be doing what you can to have more. Applying directly to firms (as many of them as possible, and as soon as you possibly can) is the most effective way to do that, and your marketability only goes down the more you wait.

I get that forcing yourself to stay here and do work that you feel is unnecessary is difficult. I haven't even gotten dressed yet. But the number of EIP interviewers making calls at this point is slim, and fate and chance don't seem to be working in your favour. Hustle. Ignoring the situation and hoping for the best is the easiest, but far from the best, thing you can do right now. If it turns out to be unnecessary effort, hit me up and I will buy you fancy ice cream.

[Anonymous User]

How many CBs does it take to not require intense mass mailing at this point?

[Anonymous User]

any gibson LA movement?

[Anonymous User]

A recent graduate got her callback to the firm she's starting her job at in the last week of august, after her trip to Vegas. I have only 1 cb so far, and a lot pending. Her advice to me: get outta town, stop worrying. If they are meant to come, they will. I'm taking that advice.

This sounds like horrible advice. This is the best chance any of you will have to find a job and I recommend taking advantage of it.

Agreed. You have one CB. Unless you would be comfortable having only that one CB if the pending decisions don't work out, you should be doing what you can to have more. Applying directly to firms (as many of them as possible, and as soon as you possibly can) is the most effective way to do that, and your marketability only goes down the more you wait.

I get that forcing yourself to stay here and do work that you feel is unnecessary is difficult. I haven't even gotten dressed yet. But the number of EIP interviewers making calls at this point is slim, and fate and chance don't seem to be working in your favour. Hustle. Ignoring the situation and hoping for the best is the easiest, but far from the best, thing you can do right now. If it turns out to be unnecessary effort, hit me up and I will buy you fancy ice cream.

Ya thanks for the advice you both. I sent this only intending to answer the question above. I have mailed a lot firms already, done pretty much all I can to this point. I guess after this all I can do is hope for the best. I'm also having high hopes for the cb I have given the large class size they offer.

[Anonymous User]

any gibson LA movement?

They called some people and have not rejected anyone, I believe.

[Anonymous User]

Out of curiosity, did anybody get anything at all from resume-dropping at the hospitality suites?