Pre-OCI 2019 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten offers from NYC callbacks from last week?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone do a Paul Hastings phone screener have an idea on CB offer timeline?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard back from the Latham 7/9 superday CB, or are people still waiting?

[Anonymous User]

Has anybody heard anything in Dallas? Someone said Texas is moving fast, is that just Houston?

Some of the AmLaw 100 firms here in Dallas have already extended offers. From what I know, most of these have gone out to people that interviewed during 1L OCI and either chose to go to other firms or there wasn't room in the 1L program but the firm still wants to pursue them. There will likely be more movement starting middle of next week, as that is when my firm will be extending returning offers to our 1L SA's - once they know whether people will be coming back, they will probably start extending offers to new folks.

I did a few interviews in Houston last week and got an offer 2 days later. The firm I was offered by seemed to be moving pretty quickly and doing plenty of interviewing

Mind sharing which Houston firms?

[Anonymous User]

Has anybody heard anything in Dallas? Someone said Texas is moving fast, is that just Houston?

Some of the AmLaw 100 firms here in Dallas have already extended offers. From what I know, most of these have gone out to people that interviewed during 1L OCI and either chose to go to other firms or there wasn't room in the 1L program but the firm still wants to pursue them. There will likely be more movement starting middle of next week, as that is when my firm will be extending returning offers to our 1L SA's - once they know whether people will be coming back, they will probably start extending offers to new folks.

I did a few interviews in Houston last week and got an offer 2 days later. The firm I was offered by seemed to be moving pretty quickly and doing plenty of interviewing

Mind sharing which Houston firms?

Sidley, BB and V&E. I think firms are trying to take advantage of pre oci because schools like UT are trending away from primarily pre-select OCI and firms think they have more control if they hire by means other than OCI

[Anonymous User]

Friend of mine interviewed at DPW & Skadden Wednesday of last week, got DPW offer Thursday and Skadden offer Friday.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone have an idea of Latham Houston post-cb timeline?

[Anonymous User]

Friend of mine interviewed at DPW & Skadden Wednesday of last week, got DPW offer Thursday and Skadden offer Friday.

Mind sharing school/stats?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone heard back from last Thursday callbacks in NYC?

[Anonymous User]

How important is pre-OCI in the DC market? I only plan to bid a small handful of NY firms so not super interested in mass mailing there, but a little worried about DC because I’m doing a 1L SA in a different market so I haven’t been able to attend any firm receptions/network.

Also if I did end up getting an interview, I wouldn’t be able to skip a day of my 1L SA to fly out so am I OK just sticking to OCI or should I really be trying to get something now too?

Pre oci in DC is super important. My old firm in dc only does pre oci and it is not the only firm that fills up its dc class through pre oci. Remember, dc is a small market with the number of summer associates. Classes aren’t huge (outside of a handful of firms). Most of the v100s class sizes in dc range from 1-6ish summers in total. If you aren’t doing pre oci in dc, you are doing it wrong.

Speaking as someone who only got dc offers pre oci and whose former firm literally only does pre oci recruiting now. Literally doesn’t go to a single oci anymore.

OK so the only classes that are 1-6 summers in DC are likely firms like Milbank who are NYC based but have a DC satellite. I interviewed (pre-OCI and OCI) with more than 20 V100 firms, and work at a V10 in DC and almost every single one had a summer class of at least 15. If you are competitive for DC, it's almost a guarantee your summer class will be 15-40 people unless you're at Covington (90) or W&C (around 50).

There are also a number of firms that do not do significant pre-oci interviewing. It certainly helps to be here, and you should definitely try to reach out. With that being said, I have a lot of classmates who ended up at elite DC firms and did not participate in pre-OCI.

[koba45]

I just had my pre-oci at a firm and there was no lunch after the fourth interview. Does that mean they already decided they're not hiring me?

[Anonymous User]

nvm.

[icansortofmath]

I just had my pre-oci at a firm and there was no lunch after the fourth interview. Does that mean they already decided they're not hiring me?

No.

Pre-OCI isn’t as formal and organized for the most part. When I pre-OCIed years ago I think a minority of the firms that offered me did the lunch thing. A lot of them were quite rushed and I was sneaking out during summer SA to do the interviews though.

[MaxMcMann]

Have a callback at one of O'Melveny/Latham and was told that this assessment was voluntary. Should I complete it? Seems like it might hurt my application more than help.

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-content ... sments.pdf

Did this back when it was in open data. Sick test if they let you see the results.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear back from PW recently?

[koba45]

How much power do recruiters have in deciding who gets an offer? I had 4 really good interviews with a firm today but before those I slightly messed up by showing up 7 minutes before my interview when the recruiter had asked me to be there about 10 minutes early. I was also sweating quite a bit. I went to the restroom to freshen up before the first interview but the recruiter saw me sweating.

[Anonymous User]

PW callback july 17, offer today july 23 via phone.

Anyone hear back from PW recently?

[Anonymous User]

I don't think you need to worry about that. Your interviewers will basically vote on your candidacy. Th recruiter is more like the initial application screener and facilitator in the process and as long as you don't do anything inappropriate or egregious, you should be fine, provided the interviews go well.

How much power do recruiters have in deciding who gets an offer? I had 4 really good interviews with a firm today but before those I slightly messed up by showing up 7 minutes before my interview when the recruiter had asked me to be there about 10 minutes early. I was also sweating quite a bit. I went to the restroom to freshen up before the first interview but the recruiter saw me sweating.

[Anonymous User]

What are the rules on post-CB thank you notes? Yes, no? What if I promised I would email someone a link to something -- just send an email to that person and include a thank you but message nobody else?

[Anonymous User]

What are the rules on post-CB thank you notes? Yes, no? What if I promised I would email someone a link to something -- just send an email to that person and include a thank you but message nobody else?

If you promised you'd send a link then include a thank you in there, also definitely send out thank you's if you really clicked with someone and personalize it, or to everyone if you're in the south. For NY generic biglaw there doesn't seem to be a consensus and TLS in the past has been very divided.

[Anonymous User]

So average turnaround for STB from CB to offer/ding has been a week or more?

[Anonymous User]

So average turnaround for STB from CB to offer/ding has been a week or more?

Its been extremely variable but seems to be moving faster as of late. Recent dings have been coming a few days after CB and haven't heard of any offers lately but know of people that still haven't heard back that had CBs 2+ weeks ago.

[Anonymous User]

Davis Polk ding. Interviewed last week

[Anonymous User]

PW callback july 17, offer today july 23 via phone.

Anyone hear back from PW recently?

Had mine earlier that week. Safe to say it’s a ding? Do they mail or email you?

[Anonymous User]

Not necessarily. Their hiring committee meets twice a week and my reading of it is that if they know they want you, they'll offer within a week and if they don't want you, they'll reject you within a week too. If they're on the fence, they'd probably want to wait to compare you to other candidates interviewing later, because they also probably do not want to extend too many offers.

As noted, they called me and they sent a follow-up email the next day. They'll probably mail something official, I'm guessing.

Good luck.

PW callback july 17, offer today july 23 via phone.

Anyone hear back from PW recently?

Had mine earlier that week. Safe to say it’s a ding? Do they mail or email you?