Hiring Freezes?? Forum

favabeansoup · Post by **favabeansoup** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:27 pm

crumb cake wrote:Best of luck to all government applicants.

^

jess · Post by **jess** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:40 pm

MillerTime15 · Post by **MillerTime15** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:43 pm

White House press briefing about to begin. Hopefully the freeze is brought up

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:51 pm

That sounded like creating new positions and filling existing vacancies, not clear how it applies to accepted offers/HP offers

MillerTime15 · Post by **MillerTime15** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:54 pm

My impression: Spicer made it seem like it was just a freeze going forward. But he didn't specifically mention retroactivity one way or another. Hopefully he gets pressed on this

zot1 · Post by **zot1** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:58 pm

So we are trusting Spicer at his word?

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:59 pm

zot1 wrote:So we are trusting Spicer at his word?

No, nay, never.

No nay never, no no!

ConfusedL1 · Post by **ConfusedL1** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:16 pm

If some one gets a copy of the order PLEASE POST

For those of us slated for independent agencies, there's at least some room to suspect they may just say "no" if asked to rescind.

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/will ... ependence/

jess · Post by **jess** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:35 pm

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:41 pm

Well if I actually manage to start my HP job this is great for my long term career, I guess :/

jess · Post by **jess** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:43 pm

ScratchableItch · Post by **ScratchableItch** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:33 pm

Word on the hill is that this is probably not retroactive but applies only to new and current openings. That's not confirmed though.

andythefir · Post by **andythefir** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:35 pm

ScratchableItch wrote:Word on the hill is that this is probably not retroactive but applies only to new and current openings. That's not confirmed though.

Has there been any confirmation that public health/safety is included and, if so, how they are defining those terms?

PunkWonkMike · Post by **PunkWonkMike** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:43 pm

As far as DOJ is concerned, my hunch is they will keep hiring in most divisions at except for Civil Rights Division. Sessions wants to vigorously enforce federal law, kinda hard to do that without sufficient federal prosecutors. CRD will probably look like it did under Bush, only weaker.

emkay625 · Post by **emkay625** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:51 pm

Is the judiciary exempt?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:55 pm

obvs. tea leaves here but W.D. Louisiana criminal AUSA position was posted today on justice.gov... wondering if this means criminal AUSAs are exempt from freeze?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:19 pm

Not insignificant chance that this turns out to literally end my legal career so there's that.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:obvs. tea leaves here but W.D. Louisiana criminal AUSA position was posted today on justice.gov... wondering if this means criminal AUSAs are exempt from freeze?

Job offers with start dates have gone out in the last couple weeks. My intuition is that offices have been briefed w/r/t what Trump team anticipated, but they're waiting on details just like the rest of us.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:32 pm

I interviewed a week ago with an agency who didn't expect any hiring freeze to affect their hiring. Looks like they were wrong. Really wanted that job, too.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I interviewed a week ago with an agency who didn't expect any hiring freeze to affect their hiring. Looks like they were wrong. Really wanted that job, too.

You mean you spoke with them and they rescinded?

MrT · Post by **MrT** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:07 pm

https://cmgwsbradiojamiedupree.files.wo ... freeze.pdf

EDIT: Random twitter source but it looks legit.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:18 pm

MrT wrote:https://cmgwsbradiojamiedupree.files.wo ... freeze.pdf

EDIT: Random twitter source but it looks legit.

So offers extended before today are safe?

And can someone explain a little more about Schedule C?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:18 pm

MrT wrote:https://cmgwsbradiojamiedupree.files.wo ... freeze.pdf

EDIT: Random twitter source but it looks legit.

So, DOJ, AUSA not exempt, correct?

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:24 pm

Yeah I think I'm in the clear

MrT · Post by **MrT** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So, DOJ, AUSA not exempt, correct?

As part of this freeze, no vacant positions existing at noon on January 22, 2017, may be filled . . . This hiring freeze applies to all executive departments and agencies regardless of the sources of their operational and programmatic funding, excepting military personnel.

I'm reading this as if you haven't been offered a position under the executive branch, you're SOL.

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