Did I just blow my chances with a specific law firm for 3L mass mailing by going to office hours? Forum

[El Pollito]

this is great

[anyriotgirl]

So when is the big reveal?

[fats provolone]

mods should reveal all the anons ITT

[anyriotgirl]

mods should reveal all the anons ITT

This is a good idea, it would really improve the readability of the thread

[fats provolone]

mods should reveal all the anons ITT

This is a good idea, it would really improve the readability of the thread

also like half of them are me

[Mr. Blackacre]

I'll take "it's just stupid" under advisement and factor that into whether/what to say. But how can I donate to United Way/Salvation Army/etc to repent without first doing what I gotta do to get hired?

i think the point you're seriously missing here, and i don't think a thousand shitpoasters could ever get this through to you, but the ends don't justify the means here, bruh.

If it were me, and most ppl would prob disagree w this, bc it leans more twd the other extreme, I would either go back to the professor and eat humble pie, tell him "i was nervous and told him what my plans were, but that they had not actually been actualized, and i would just like to clarify that"....or go to another student dean and explain the situation in a hypothetical way or tell them flat out and ask their advice. Otherwise, I wouldn't bring it up again, and prob wouldn't apply to that partner's firm at all.

This is exactly what I'd do. But then again, I wouldn't have put myself in this situation in the first place.

I'm going to quote this as well so that OP gets it in his head. OP, those are really your only two options.
1) Apologize, salvage what you can.
2) Do not apply to the firm.
Odds are, given how much you overthink things, that you will fuck it up if you try to come up with some convoluted explanation.
Oh and 3) stop posting on this forum. All you're going to get is more people making fun of you.

[fats provolone]

this is like the one scenario where I'd want to be a mod

[BigZuck]

I'll take "it's just stupid" under advisement and factor that into whether/what to say. But how can I donate to United Way/Salvation Army/etc to repent without first doing what I gotta do to get hired?

i think the point you're seriously missing here, and i don't think a thousand shitpoasters could ever get this through to you, but the ends don't justify the means here, bruh.

If it were me, and most ppl would prob disagree w this, bc it leans more twd the other extreme, I would either go back to the professor and eat humble pie, tell him "i was nervous and told him what my plans were, but that they had not actually been actualized, and i would just like to clarify that"....or go to another student dean and explain the situation in a hypothetical way or tell them flat out and ask their advice. Otherwise, I wouldn't bring it up again, and prob wouldn't apply to that partner's firm at all.

This is exactly what I'd do. But then again, I wouldn't have put myself in this situation in the first place.

I'm going to quote this as well so that OP gets it in his head. OP, those are really your only two options.
1) Apologize, salvage what you can.
2) Do not apply to the firm.
Odds are, given how much you overthink things, that you will fuck it up if you try to come up with some convoluted explanation.
Oh and 3) stop posting on this forum. All you're going to get is more people making fun of you.

You made an alt just for this?

Why?

[Mr. Blackacre]

I'll take "it's just stupid" under advisement and factor that into whether/what to say. But how can I donate to United Way/Salvation Army/etc to repent without first doing what I gotta do to get hired?

i think the point you're seriously missing here, and i don't think a thousand shitpoasters could ever get this through to you, but the ends don't justify the means here, bruh.

If it were me, and most ppl would prob disagree w this, bc it leans more twd the other extreme, I would either go back to the professor and eat humble pie, tell him "i was nervous and told him what my plans were, but that they had not actually been actualized, and i would just like to clarify that"....or go to another student dean and explain the situation in a hypothetical way or tell them flat out and ask their advice. Otherwise, I wouldn't bring it up again, and prob wouldn't apply to that partner's firm at all.

This is exactly what I'd do. But then again, I wouldn't have put myself in this situation in the first place.

I'm going to quote this as well so that OP gets it in his head. OP, those are really your only two options.
1) Apologize, salvage what you can.
2) Do not apply to the firm.
Odds are, given how much you overthink things, that you will fuck it up if you try to come up with some convoluted explanation.
Oh and 3) stop posting on this forum. All you're going to get is more people making fun of you.

You made an alt just for this?

Why?

Alright you got me. My first account is the one with which I applied to LS, and I shared a lot of personal info. It would be super easy for anyone who knows me or who's seen my CV to know who I am. Because I'm paranoid (read: aspie), I've been sticking to posting anonymously on the forum, which kind of restricts the type of topics I can contribute to. I figured I might as well make a new account. Not sure how badly seen alt accounts are in the TLS community, but I guess I'm about to find out. If mods are unhappy, I'll just go back into obscurity.

[Desert Fox]

I really hope someone doesn't email this every adjunct partner at a big firm at CLS.

[justabitunusual]

I really hope someone doesn't email this every adjunct partner at a big firm at CLS.

tbh, i'm on the fence...we're 7 pages in so i kinda wanna know who OP is and see what his prof thinks...
...and the fact that OP is pretty much identifiable, unless he lied ab which schools he is on par with, which is also probable.

On the other hand, OP is socially impaired and I don't think it would be fun to see him trying to explain to his professor that he knows that student-x posted this. Student-x is obvs OP's below median/upward aspiring fellow classmate who had the same exact convo w prof on the same day OP did, where prof asked student-x ab their summer plans, and student-x replied w "non-Ny firm," but only after report was built and it was obvs prof liked student-x and was proud of them, which caused them to fib. After this, prof hears ab a little known website called tls and reads this thread---he sees that one of his students has POA over one or more family members, and does not in fact have a job w a non-ny firm- he narrows down those students, and interviews them separately, only to find the true culprit is OP after OP tries to shuck the blame to another student as his post said he would. Later, OP posts in the "veil of tears" thread as anon, and admits to everyone what happened. tl/dr

Obvs none of this is going to happen, but just goes to show why i'm on the fence.

[fats provolone]

I just love that he has a fucking RANKED LIST of people to preemptively blame this on if anyone starts to catch on

[A. Nony Mouse]

I just love that he has a fucking RANKED LIST of people to preemptively blame this on if anyone starts to catch on

Yeah, I mean, this is seriously the WTF part. This person isn't going anywhere except deeper into the holes he's digging himself.

Bets on how long it takes him to get disbarred?

[Mr. Blackacre]

I just love that he has a fucking RANKED LIST of people to preemptively blame this on if anyone starts to catch on

Yeah, I mean, this is seriously the WTF part. This person isn't going anywhere except deeper into the holes he's digging himself.

Bets on how long it takes him to get disbarred?

I doubt he actually has a list. I'm pretty sure OP is unstable and is grasping onto increasingly irrational straws as people on the forum keep shooting his plans down. When he says he has a list, he's trying to convince himself as much as he's trying to convince you. Which is why it would really be best if he doesn't come back.

[A. Nony Mouse]

Oh, yeah, I agree. Just the idea that someone thinks that's an acceptable thing to say is kinda mindblowing.

I also honestly think that this kind impulse to lie to stay out of any kind of perceived trouble is something that will sink a lawyer really quickly.

[smaug]

I just love that he has a fucking RANKED LIST of people to preemptively blame this on if anyone starts to catch on

I like that he doesn't realize that the flaw in his plan is that everyone who actually has a job will be able to verify that easily, so it's not as though there's a way to disappear into the woodwork, unless OP magics up an SA position outside of NYC in a hurry.

[lavarman84]

Oh, yeah, I agree. Just the idea that someone thinks that's an acceptable thing to say is kinda mindblowing.

I also honestly think that this kind impulse to lie to stay out of any kind of perceived trouble is something that will sink a lawyer really quickly.

I don't have as much work experience as most people on here but I like to think that the vast majority of employers value accountability.

If a person is willing to lie about something so meaningless, imagine what he/she will do if/when they make a major mistake on a work assignment.

And I agree, that kind of impulse will lead you to getting fired. If this thread is any indicator, this person doesn't have any moral qualms with these sort of lies and this sort of behavior. He/she has rationalized it away.

[TTTooKewl]

This thread has been one of the best. Though it has very little to do with morality and more to do with common sense.

[Anonymous User]

Where you are in the chain is irrelevant when it comes to the fact that if you chose to redact, it wouldn't be as obvs that someone is likely passing the buck...and tbh...you're prob the only one who would pass the buck onto another named individual.

Yea I'm sure my 10+ classmates would love the inconvenience of having to prove to some firm they don't even work for that their offers are real. And passing the buck wouldn't be as childishly obvious as:
"PosterA: everyone in the school knows the OP is John E. Smith III.
Me: Actually, it's Michael Jones, Jr."

No, if I sensed danger coming I'd just start naming names (not here but to the firm/partner directly) and let those names prove to a firm they're really going to nonNYC firm X Y or Z. "It's not James G. Peach? Well then it's probably Fred Scooby-Doo. It's not Fred? well then it's probably..."
For all you know, I've already sent the partner a name or two from a throwaway email so that the email actually accurately identifying me will be like the 17th one, at which point he'd just get tired of this pettiness.

Student-x is obvs OP's below median/upward aspiring fellow classmate who had the same exact convo w prof on the same day OP did, where prof asked student-x ab their summer plans, and student-x replied w "non-Ny firm,"

The partner runs through the standard path chit chat: where'd you grow up, go to college, where you working this summer, etc. I'm not the only person he asked, either that "same day" or any other day he hosted office hours.

As for "replying nonNYC firm," yes, I do in fact know at least 10 people who have interacted with this partner for one class or another. Ever heard of a sign-up sheet posted on the door/online scheduler?
If you're "on the fence" as to contacting a random adjunct lecturer, then swing for the fence. You swing, then I'll swing. Except I actually know which partner it is, which classmates' names to implicate, etc.

I doubt he actually has a list. I'm pretty sure OP is unstable and is grasping onto increasingly irrational straws

2 column table from class rosters in classes the practitioner teaches: student name, which city. If city =/= NYC, name goes on the list. What's so hard about that? I'll let the partner/the 10+ students/10+ HR departments sort out among themselves whether student1 is actually going to firmA, student2 to firmB, etc. Assuming the partner would want to participate in this dragnet.
Btw, I'm just using 10 as a neutral baseline so as to give no indication of the course's size. I could have 20, 30 names.

You're right that I didn't have a list at the beginning of this thread. But if trolls like the 0L pleadthefif want to play hardball by introducing IRL identities into this (which, btw, good luck figuring out based on my RICH posting history), then IRL identities (of my classmates, or people I don't know in the 2 schools I don't attend, become fair game. And lest you forget, I got nothing but time to play ball.

2) Do not apply to the firm.
Odds are, given how much you overthink things, that you will fuck it up if you try to come up with some convoluted explanation. Oh and 3) stop posting on this forum. All you're going to get is more people making fun of you.

2) again, I remain to be convinced as to why I should not bother to apply to this firm. The default plan is to wait for them to bring it up. If they actually do, well, Uncle Jimmy's medical records haven't been put to much use lately.
3) They can make fun of me all they want. I don't even bother responding to the "make fun" posts.
Given how many of them think their blonde in the bar analogies are comedic genius and incisive, just incisive mockery, I'd say they' collectively wasting 2-3mins for every minute of mine.
If they want to waste their time posting irrelevant nonsense that I don't even read because I space bar down past them, they can continue to spend their time that way.

[lavarman84]

Oof. You are legitimately cray-cray. I don't even know what to say to that post and your plan. It really does seem like you don't understand people at all.

I really hope this is all an elaborate troll. If so, hats off to you. It's been entertaining.

[pancakes3]

OP, I'm genuinely curious - what do you plan to actually do this summer? are you applying to gov't, small/midsize firms, etc?

[pleadthafif]

Where you are in the chain is irrelevant when it comes to the fact that if you chose to redact, it wouldn't be as obvs that someone is likely passing the buck...and tbh...you're prob the only one who would pass the buck onto another named individual.

Yea I'm sure my 10+ classmates would love the inconvenience of having to prove to some firm they don't even work for that their offers are real. And passing the buck wouldn't be as childishly obvious as:
"PosterA: everyone in the school knows the OP is John E. Smith III.
Me: Actually, it's Michael Jones, Jr."

No, if I sensed danger coming I'd just start naming names (not here but to the firm/partner directly) and let those names prove to a firm they have nothing to do with that they're really going to nonNYC firm X Y or Z. "It's not James G. Peach? Well then it's probably Fred Scooby-Doo. It's not Fred? well then it's probably..."
For all you know, I've already sent the partner a name or two from a throwaway email so that the email actually accurately identifying me will be like the 17th one, at which point he'd just get tired of this pettiness.

Student-x is obvs OP's below median/upward aspiring fellow classmate who had the same exact convo w prof on the same day OP did, where prof asked student-x ab their summer plans, and student-x replied w "non-Ny firm,"

The partner runs through the standard path chit chat: where'd you grow up, go to college, where you working this summer, etc. I'm not the only person he asked, either that "same day" or any other day he hosted office hours.

As for "replying nonNYC firm," yes, I do in fact know at least 10 people who have interacted with this partner for one class or another. Ever heard of a sign-up sheet posted on the door/online scheduler?
If you're "on the fence" as to contacting a random adjunct lecturer, then swing for the fence. You swing, then I'll swing. Except I actually know which partner it is, which classmates' names to implicate, etc.

I doubt he actually has a list. I'm pretty sure OP is unstable and is grasping onto increasingly irrational straws

2 column table from class rosters in classes the practitioner teaches: student name, which city. If city =/= NYC, name goes on the list. What's so hard about that? I'll let the partner/the 10+ students/10+ HR departments sort out among themselves whether student1 is actually going to firmA, student2 to firmB, etc. Assuming the partner would want to participate in this dragnet.
Btw, I'm just using 10 as a neutral baseline so as to give no indication of the course's size. I could have 20, 30 names.

You're right that I didn't have a list at the beginning of this thread. But if trolls like the 0L pleadthefif want to play hardball by introducing IRL identities into this (which, btw, good luck figuring out based on my RICH posting history), then IRL identities (of my classmates, or people I don't know in the 2 schools I don't attend, become fair game. And lest you forget, I got nothing but time to play ball.

2) Do not apply to the firm.
Odds are, given how much you overthink things, that you will fuck it up if you try to come up with some convoluted explanation. Oh and 3) stop posting on this forum. All you're going to get is more people making fun of you.

2) again, I remain to be convinced as to why I should not bother to apply to this firm. The default plan is to wait for them to bring it up. If they actually do, well, Uncle Jimmy's medical records haven't been put to much use lately.
3) They can make fun of me all they want. I don't even bother responding to the "make fun" posts.
Given how many of them think their blonde in the bar analogies are comedic genius and incisive, just incisive mockery, I'd say they' collectively wasting 2-3mins for every minute of mine.
If they want to waste their time posting irrelevant nonsense that I don't even read because I space bar down past them, they can continue to spend their time that way.

Thanks for the shoutout but it's not really trolling when all I'm doing is pointing out your glaring incompetence.

[Caesar Salad]

I still don't get what happens when partner calls the firm you won't be working at.

[LeDique]

I still don't get what happens when partner calls the firm you won't be working at.

he won't b/c op is going to anonymously e-mailing the partner the link to this thread accusing everyone else in the class who is non-nyc of being op. the prof won't want to bother with all of those names and this is very mentally stable behavior.

[Caesar Salad]

Emailing the stuff to the partner now is going to put it on his radar though. Next summer when his resume doesn't have the SA, partner will be reminded of the insane email he got back in November and follow up. Lose-lose