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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by 09042014 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:What's hiring like at PLIP for 3Ls who do not have a 2L SA? I know that in general, if you do not have a 2L SA, the chances of getting hired as a 3L are non-existent. Are those chances better in the IP world?
I actually got asked why I was there because I had a 2L SA. I think the chances are much better in IP world, especially for patent prosecution. I know two IP folks who got no offered and then got a biglaw job anyway.

I'd go, but definitely do not count on getting anything. You gotta apply everywhere

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:08 pm

Spartan_Alum_12 wrote:SFIPLA firms posted

Baker Botts L.L.P. (Palo Alto, CA)
Blakely Sokoloff Taylor & Zafman LLP (CA, CO, WA, OR)
Dechert LLP (Silicon Valley)
Foley & Lardner LLP (Various)
Kenyon & Kenyon LLP (NYC)
Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP (Bay Area)
Klarquist Sparkman (Portland, OR)
Knobbe Martens Olson & Bear, LLP (CA + DC)
McDermott Will & Emery LLP (Orange County)
Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Morrison & Foerster LLP (CA + DC)
O'Melveny & Myers LLP (San Francisco and Silicon Valley)
Perkins Coie LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
White & Case LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Thanks for this. Where do you see the list? After registering and logging on symplicity, the search for 2014 visiting firms draws a blank for me. What am I missing?

For registering all I did was created a new account on their symplicity page and didn't pay any fee.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Spartan_Alum_12 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Spartan_Alum_12 wrote:SFIPLA firms posted

Baker Botts L.L.P. (Palo Alto, CA)
Blakely Sokoloff Taylor & Zafman LLP (CA, CO, WA, OR)
Dechert LLP (Silicon Valley)
Foley & Lardner LLP (Various)
Kenyon & Kenyon LLP (NYC)
Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP (Bay Area)
Klarquist Sparkman (Portland, OR)
Knobbe Martens Olson & Bear, LLP (CA + DC)
McDermott Will & Emery LLP (Orange County)
Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Morrison & Foerster LLP (CA + DC)
O'Melveny & Myers LLP (San Francisco and Silicon Valley)
Perkins Coie LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
White & Case LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Thanks for this. Where do you see the list? After registering and logging on symplicity, the search for 2014 visiting firms draws a blank for me. What am I missing?

For registering all I did was created a new account on their symplicity page and didn't pay any fee.
Click on the profile tab in symplicity and make sure to fill out all the info so it shows your profile is 100% complete. Make sure to put that you're a 2L under the academic section.

Most of the SFIPLA firms are also interviewing at Loyola. The SFIPLA firms seem to fit my profile better than most of the Loyola ones but I'm guessing that bidding twice is not a good idea?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by lhanvt13 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:18 pm

Any point in going to SFIPLA if I'm not shooting for west coast? Family reasons

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Spartan_Alum_12 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:54 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:Any point in going to SFIPLA if I'm not shooting for west coast? Family reasons
Probably not. The few firms at SFIPLA not interviewing for CA offices will be at Loyola.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Jchance » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:54 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:Any point in going to SFIPLA if I'm not shooting for west coast? Family reasons
To increase available bids for PLIP, sure. It'd also be strategic to spread out your interviews. Doing 12-18 screeners a day is no fun.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by 09042014 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Jchance wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:Any point in going to SFIPLA if I'm not shooting for west coast? Family reasons
To increase available bids for PLIP, sure. It'd also be strategic to spread out your interviews. Doing 12-18 screeners a day is no fun.
Isn't SFIPLA all west coast firms?

I'd really only do it if you aren't 95% sure you'll get a job at OCI or loyola. If you have crapola grades from a TTT. Then why not apply.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's hiring like at PLIP for 3Ls who do not have a 2L SA? I know that in general, if you do not have a 2L SA, the chances of getting hired as a 3L are non-existent. Are those chances better in the IP world?
I actually got asked why I was there because I had a 2L SA. I think the chances are much better in IP world, especially for patent prosecution. I know two IP folks who got no offered and then got a biglaw job anyway.

I'd go, but definitely do not count on getting anything. You gotta apply everywhere
Oh, I'm going as long as I get interviews! I was just wondering what to expect with regards to getting callbacks. I guess they'll only offer callbacks to 3Ls if one of they're 2L's doesn't accept an offer?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by 09042014 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's hiring like at PLIP for 3Ls who do not have a 2L SA? I know that in general, if you do not have a 2L SA, the chances of getting hired as a 3L are non-existent. Are those chances better in the IP world?
I actually got asked why I was there because I had a 2L SA. I think the chances are much better in IP world, especially for patent prosecution. I know two IP folks who got no offered and then got a biglaw job anyway.

I'd go, but definitely do not count on getting anything. You gotta apply everywhere
Oh, I'm going as long as I get interviews! I was just wondering what to expect with regards to getting callbacks. I guess they'll only offer callbacks to 3Ls if one of they're 2L's doesn't accept an offer?
Nah, there are plenty more reasons than that to hire.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:40 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's hiring like at PLIP for 3Ls who do not have a 2L SA? I know that in general, if you do not have a 2L SA, the chances of getting hired as a 3L are non-existent. Are those chances better in the IP world?
I actually got asked why I was there because I had a 2L SA. I think the chances are much better in IP world, especially for patent prosecution. I know two IP folks who got no offered and then got a biglaw job anyway.

I'd go, but definitely do not count on getting anything. You gotta apply everywhere
Oh, I'm going as long as I get interviews! I was just wondering what to expect with regards to getting callbacks. I guess they'll only offer callbacks to 3Ls if one of they're 2L's doesn't accept an offer?
Nah, there are plenty more reasons than that to hire.
Cool. Thanks, I'm slightly more optimistic than I was this morning now lol

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri May 02, 2014 11:44 am

Question re: using all 32 bids

I'm only interested in firms that have patent prosecution located in Chicago. There are probably fewer than 10 firms that meet this criteria. Is it really worthwhile to use all 32 bids? I don't even think there are 32 Chicago firms. Alternatively, if I used all my bids but got the preselects I was hoping for, I'd want to cancel some of the interviews with out of state firms. Does canceling an interview during the cancellation period close the door to that firm, or is it an accepted part of the PLIP process?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Sun May 04, 2014 9:18 am

Wilson Sonsini- I'm interested in their M&A/capital markets/VC area only (not litigation)

Should I bid on them for PLIP or only OCI? I'm not sure if "patent strategy/counseling practices" is part of that area

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Sun May 04, 2014 9:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:Wilson Sonsini- I'm interested in their M&A/capital markets/VC area only (not litigation)

Should I bid on them for PLIP or only OCI? I'm not sure if "patent strategy/counseling practices" is part of that area
Their PLIP listing says only life science. I did not bid them as EE guy but would love to be at the firm. Hope I didn't make a mistake on that one

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

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Anonymous User wrote:Wilson Sonsini- I'm interested in their M&A/capital markets/VC area only (not litigation)

Should I bid on them for PLIP or only OCI? I'm not sure if "patent strategy/counseling practices" is part of that area
OCI is your best chance. Wilson Sonsini recruits heavily graduates from HLS, SLS, and Cal. Good luck!

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by lhanvt13 » Wed May 07, 2014 12:38 am

has anyone signed up for the SFIPLA without being a resident of the area? It says that I need to be a sfipla member but under that section it says "and who have their residence in the Membership Area" ... does this mean I'm SOL?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by mohanster » Wed May 07, 2014 1:09 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:has anyone signed up for the SFIPLA without being a resident of the area? It says that I need to be a sfipla member but under that section it says "and who have their residence in the Membership Area" ... does this mean I'm SOL?
Yeah. I am from the east coast with no connections with SF or SFIPLA. Already done the bidding,

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by lhanvt13 » Wed May 07, 2014 1:23 pm

mohanster wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:has anyone signed up for the SFIPLA without being a resident of the area? It says that I need to be a sfipla member but under that section it says "and who have their residence in the Membership Area" ... does this mean I'm SOL?
Yeah. I am from the east coast with no connections with SF or SFIPLA. Already done the bidding,
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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed May 07, 2014 1:24 pm

Is there any way to indicate that I might be at a different school next year? Like, forward them a new resume with the new school?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by POTUS2044 » Thu May 08, 2014 5:39 pm

For SFIPLA, are you guys uploading Cover letters? When they don't give specific directions.

It looks like it gives you the option to, but I don't see any specific directions directing you to...

For example Baker Botts, has a choice to upload a Cover Letter. Haven't checked everyone else yet.

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Post by bulinus » Sat May 17, 2014 6:29 pm

Any tips on the timeline for CBs following PLIP? Thinking about heading out of the country from Aug 2nd-10th.

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Post by Hipster but Athletic » Sat May 17, 2014 7:08 pm

You'll want to be reachable by phone. But being gone those days won't fuck you over in terms of actually scheduling the visits.
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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by MarcZero » Sat May 17, 2014 10:20 pm

bulinus wrote:Any tips on the timeline for CBs following PLIP? Thinking about heading out of the country from Aug 2nd-10th.
I've heard people who got callback offers at PLIP itself. Keep in mind though that these were shining stars (think multiple relevant years of work experience, top schools, and perhaps even a Ph.D. to boot). One woman who hit all three of these bonus points, plus had a minority status to boot was given an offer at the end of the screener interview. However, that is pretty much the unicorn of PLIP.

It also depends on the firms and the area. Many of the New York firms all seem to do callbacks very quickly after PLIP and before fall classes start so that they can arrange their interviewees to do a bunch of callbacks to multiple firms in NYC on the same trip (and split the costs between them for travel). I've heard the west coast does something similar, but I didn't keep tabs on that market last year. I know other areas are pretty much 'whenever they get around to it.' Some firms were on the ball and did callbacks quickly so as to not interfere too much with classes. Others had no idea about the world outside of their firm and maybe called you back (or sent a rejection letter) 2, 3, even 4 months later.

I agree with HbA, keep your phone handy at all times. My first callback was 2 weeks after PLIP, my last one came in early November. Usually, the bigger the market, the faster the turnaround for callbacks since they are competing and trying to snap up people before other firms do.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by Anonymous User » Sun May 18, 2014 3:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Question re: using all 32 bids

I'm only interested in firms that have patent prosecution located in Chicago. There are probably fewer than 10 firms that meet this criteria. Is it really worthwhile to use all 32 bids? I don't even think there are 32 Chicago firms. Alternatively, if I used all my bids but got the preselects I was hoping for, I'd want to cancel some of the interviews with out of state firms. Does canceling an interview during the cancellation period close the door to that firm, or is it an accepted part of the PLIP process?
Sure, from the standpoint of interview practice. You can always turn down some if you end up getting everything you want and schedule wise it just makes it hard.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2014 Thread - Strategies?

Post by lhanvt13 » Tue May 20, 2014 2:20 am

Just got a million emails from SFIPLA... Really?

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue May 20, 2014 2:24 am

How serious does SFIPLA care about membership? I don't remember having it last year but this year they seem to stress out membership or they won't allow you to attend... It costs $25 and a stamp.

I remember they have extra screener slots for people last year so maybe thats why they didn't enforce it.
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