Columbia EIP 2010 Callbacks Thread Forum

[Anonymous User]

So, there's little chance we'll hear anything over the weekend, correct?

A friend received a Saturday morning call. She won't tell me which firm

[Anonymous User]

Got a MoFo NY callback this morning, apparently the partner had been traveling. I think there may be no rhyme nor reason to this nonsense.

[Anonymous User]

nonsense is right. this whole thing is a dog and pony show.

[Anonymous User]

What has Paul Hastings' hiring trend been, in terms of grades?? I received a callback, but my GPA is only around the median, not on CLR, etc. I'm ecstatic to get a CB, but extremely confused and hesitant to get my hopes up. Any others in the same boat?

[Anonymous User]

Paul Hastings isn't exactly grade conscious. Your interview is more important at this point

[Anonymous User]

Are firms still grade-conscious at the callback stage? At this point, I have two or three callbacks at firms where my grades are probably on the low end.

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

Are firms still grade-conscious at the callback stage? At this point, I have two or three callbacks at firms where my grades are probably on the low end.

There is a thread on this at Autoadmit:

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2

HTH.

Thank you!

I can confirm Mofo NY, by the way.

[Anonymous User]

Hughes Hubbard ding via snail mail.

Edit: report of Debevoise ding via snail mail as well, although I haven't received my rejection yet. :\

[Anonymous User]

I did well and got a lot of callbacks.
None of the interviews I did really stood out; maybe a couple where I made the interviewer laugh a lot or we talked about sort of random topics that weren't related to the law (always a good sign), but in general I feel like everyone has fairly normal conversations with their interviewer. I think grades were the most important factor, because unless someone is super awkward or makes a slip-up like giving a practice area that doesn't exist at the firm or forgetting which city s/he's interviewing for, generally everyone has decent conversations with their interviewers. So, my advice is to bid conservatively and try and add additional interview slots with lower-ranked or less competitive firms if your grades aren't as good; and if your grades are good, just be yourself with more enthusiasm and friendliness.

+1

I am five for thirteen so far. With one freakish exception, I was unable to snag any callback from firms where my grades weren't in the ballpark - including the ones where my grades were probably too high (YP?!). On the other hand, every V10-V30 firm I interviewed with gave me the good news, regardless of how the interviews went.

So... grades, grades, grades.

well - here's hoping that i am the exception. grades ok but resume is strong

I have zero callbacks so far, but only 1 confirmed ding. I'm hoping this is a function of the fact that I didn't apply to any NYC firms and other markets are just slower. Grades are top 15% or so. Edit: and no LR.

Does anyone know with some degree of certainty what the GPAs are for top 10, 15, 20%? 3.41 (Stone) is about top 30 and 3.8 (Kent) is about top 2-3, right?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know with some degree of certainty what the GPAs are for top 10, 15, 20%? 3.41 (Stone) is about top 30 and 3.8 (Kent) is about top 2-3, right?

I don't know with a "degree of certainty" (or anything close to it), but when I think top 15%, I think ~3.55. I think I got this off an old xoxo or TLS thread. If only I paid more attention in my college statistics class.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know how the timeline typically works for this process? If we don't have a callback from Debevoise or one of the others that confirmed callbacks can we expect a rejection, or is it possible that we will be called back later?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know how the timeline typically works for this process? If we don't have a callback from Debevoise or one of the others that confirmed callbacks can we expect a rejection, or is it possible that we will be called back later?

I don't think anyone knows, as evidenced by the last 7 pages of discussion regarding this very question.

[Anonymous User]

re: medians and cutoffs... if you plug in the Stone & Kent numbers (and it's not totally accurate since Kent varies and there are some other constraints for both in terms of it not just being straight GPA-based, and the distribution isn't actually normal for various reasons) you get a rough approximation of a median of 3.286, a top 40% of 3.346, a top 25% of 3.446, a top 15% of 3.532, and a top 10% of 3.59... I think this is as well as we can do given the information that they provide.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know how the timeline typically works for this process? If we don't have a callback from Debevoise or one of the others that confirmed callbacks can we expect a rejection, or is it possible that we will be called back later?

I don't think anyone knows, as evidenced by the last 7 pages of discussion regarding this very question.

Uhhh there's almost no discussion of this, just a series of posts about who got callbacks and where. Thanks for your help...

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know how the timeline typically works for this process? If we don't have a callback from Debevoise or one of the others that confirmed callbacks can we expect a rejection, or is it possible that we will be called back later?

I don't think anyone knows, as evidenced by the last 7 pages of discussion regarding this very question.

Uhhh there's almost no discussion of this, just a series of posts about who got callbacks and where. Thanks for your help...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=126716

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know how the timeline typically works for this process? If we don't have a callback from Debevoise or one of the others that confirmed callbacks can we expect a rejection, or is it possible that we will be called back later?

I don't think anyone knows, as evidenced by the last 7 pages of discussion regarding this very question.

Uhhh there's almost no discussion of this, just a series of posts about who got callbacks and where. Thanks for your help...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=126716

Thanks, that is legitimately helpful. I've never used this site before, didn't realize what kind of info was lurking around out there. Good luck!

[Anonymous User]

re: medians and cutoffs... if you plug in the Stone & Kent numbers (and it's not totally accurate since Kent varies and there are some other constraints for both in terms of it not just being straight GPA-based, and the distribution isn't actually normal for various reasons) you get a rough approximation of a median of 3.286, a top 40% of 3.346, a top 25% of 3.446, a top 15% of 3.532, and a top 10% of 3.59... I think this is as well as we can do given the information that they provide.

I think this is roughly right. The distribution is probably not normal at the low end (i.e., below median) since there's a fat B/B+ curve with few B-s, but I think normal is a pretty good approximation for the top half of the curve.

[NYAssociate]

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[Anonymous User]

An oh-so-quick Hughes Hubbard rejection by mail.

If you haven't heard from a firm that sent out official rejections AND callbacks, is it safe to assume that I'm still in the running? (Sorry but I don't think this is the same question as above)

[Anonymous User]

An oh-so-quick Hughes Hubbard rejection by mail.

If you haven't heard from a firm that sent out official rejections AND callbacks, is it safe to assume that I'm still in the running? (Sorry but I don't think this is the same question as above)

I'm waiting 'til Monday or Tuesday to assume that, since sometimes mail in New York can take a few days and rejections are traditionally sent by snail mail rather than e-mail.

[Anonymous User]

An oh-so-quick Hughes Hubbard rejection by mail.

GPA range?

[Anonymous User]

An oh-so-quick Hughes Hubbard rejection by mail.

GPA range?

Lower Stone.

[Anonymous User]

re: medians and cutoffs... if you plug in the Stone & Kent numbers (and it's not totally accurate since Kent varies and there are some other constraints for both in terms of it not just being straight GPA-based, and the distribution isn't actually normal for various reasons) you get a rough approximation of a median of 3.286, a top 40% of 3.346, a top 25% of 3.446, a top 15% of 3.532, and a top 10% of 3.59... I think this is as well as we can do given the information that they provide.

I think this is too generous. Top 10% is probably something closer to 3.65 or so.

[Anonymous User]

There is an XOXO post about this, but they were using numbers that were slightly off.

Based on the 1L GPA distribution of c/o 2011
Kent = 3.24%
Kent + Stone = 31.24%

Based on the above information, the normal curve parameters are as follows:
Mean/Median = 3.27
Standard Deviation = 0.287

Top 5%: 3.742
Top 10%: 3.638
Top 15%: 3.567
Top 20%: 3.511
Top 25%: 3.463
Top 30%: 3.420
Top 1/3: 3.39362
Top 35%: 3.381
Top 40%: 3.343
Top 45%: 3.306
Median: 3.270
Top 55%: 3.234
Top 60%: 3.197
Top 2/3: 3.14639
Top 65%: 3.159
Top 70%: 3.119
Top 75%: 3.076

Good luck everyone.