Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences... Forum

[itbdvorm]

M&A and leveraged lending are looking for bodies at every damn firm in NYC. 3Ls should mass mail indicating an interest in those groups.

yes

[Neal Patrick Harris]

M&A and leveraged lending are looking for bodies at every damn firm in NYC. 3Ls should mass mail indicating an interest in those groups.

yes

I get that they're busy because the economy/M&A is doing well, but should people be concerned that those groups will be downsized when the economy goes south?

[mephistopheles]

M&A and leveraged lending are looking for bodies at every damn firm in NYC. 3Ls should mass mail indicating an interest in those groups.

yes

I get that they're busy because the economy/M&A is doing well, but should people be concerned that those groups will be downsized when the economy goes south?

only if you're looking at latham, which overhires like a bitch

[LRGhost]

Do they?

[Anonymous User]

M&A and leveraged lending are looking for bodies at every damn firm in NYC. 3Ls should mass mail indicating an interest in those groups.

yes

I get that they're busy because the economy/M&A is doing well, but should people be concerned that those groups will be downsized when the economy goes south?

Of course they should. However, your biglaw time horizon is 3 years max, and even when they do downsize, they only fire the bottom 25% or so.

So do you want to get your foot in the door at Latham or Skadden or etc etc with a damn good chance to be an average lawyer in your class, which means they'll let you stay for 5 years, you pay off all your debt, and you can exit to a host of interesting opportunities. Or do you want to be at a shittier firm IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION BECAUSE EVERYONE DOWNSIZES IN A DOWN ECONOMY.

[Anonymous User]

Just had last interview. Partner says can only give me "alternate" offer and hands me a letter for $80K starting? Don't understand. Bait and switch?

[bjsesq]

M&A and leveraged lending are looking for bodies at every damn firm in NYC. 3Ls should mass mail indicating an interest in those groups.

yes

I get that they're busy because the economy/M&A is doing well, but should people be concerned that those groups will be downsized when the economy goes south?

The economy going south would have neglibile impact on certain sectors of M&A, and perhaps even speed it up. Health care systems are merging like motherfuckers right now as a result of the ACA.

[brazleton]

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[wons]

Just had last interview. Partner says can only give me "alternate" offer and hands me a letter for $80K starting? Don't understand. Bait and switch?

Cold offer. Congrats.

[Danger Zone]

Just had last interview. Partner says can only give me "alternate" offer and hands me a letter for $80K starting? Don't understand. Bait and switch?

Wow, fuck law firms and their shit awful hiring model. Sorry to hear.

[BuckinghamB]

Just had last interview. Partner says can only give me "alternate" offer and hands me a letter for $80K starting? Don't understand. Bait and switch?

Sounds like it might be a staff attorney/non-partnership associate offer

ETA: That's pretty shitty of the firm to do

[20141023]

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[Mal Reynolds]

How big is the firm and where is it generally located?

[El Pollito]

Wow... I had never even heard of an alternative offer before (unless that really is the same thing as a cold offer). At least it is "an offer" that you can use to try to look for work elsewhere, but that still blows.

Sounds like shady shitlaw shenanigans rather than a cold offer.

[LRGhost]

How big is the firm and where is it generally located?

[A. Nony Mouse]

Well, the person posting about the "alternate" offer is the same person who posted earlier as two separate people being no-offered, so I don't know how much stock to put in it.

[LRGhost]

loooooooooooooooooool

[sideroxylon]

Well, the person posting about the "alternate" offer is the same person who posted earlier as two separate people being no-offered, so I don't know how much stock to put in it.

burn the witch

[Danger Zone]

Is it even a rising 3L? I don't know if this person deserves my sympathy or my vitriol, but leaning toward the latter at this point.

[mephistopheles]

Well, the person posting about the "alternate" offer is the same person who posted earlier as two separate people being no-offered, so I don't know how much stock to put in it.

can this person just be outed?

[shifty_eyed]

Well, the person posting about the "alternate" offer is the same person who posted earlier as two separate people being no-offered, so I don't know how much stock to put in it.

can this person just be outed?

[El Pollito]

Well, the person posting about the "alternate" offer is the same person who posted earlier as two separate people being no-offered, so I don't know how much stock to put in it.

can this person just be outed?

Why aren't they banned yet? It's kind of ridiculous to let them keep doing that ITT.

[mephistopheles]

Well, the person posting about the "alternate" offer is the same person who posted earlier as two separate people being no-offered, so I don't know how much stock to put in it.

can this person just be outed?

Why aren't they banned yet? It's kind of ridiculous to let them keep doing that ITT.

i guess it could be some sort of breakdown where they need to feel like they're not alone, but still

[sideroxylon]

i guess it could be some sort of breakdown where they need to feel like they're not alone, but still

Yeah, nothing makes me feel less lonely than making up fake people and talking to myself!

[mephistopheles]

i guess it could be some sort of breakdown where they need to feel like they're not alone, but still

Yeah, nothing makes me feel less lonely than making up fake people and talking to myself!

but psychotic break