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[Anonymous User]

Seward & Kissel offer

[Anonymous User]

Seward & Kissel offer

NYC is looking good this year.

[Anonymous User]

Seward & Kissel offer

when was your interview?

[Anonymous User]

Seward & Kissel offer

when was your interview?

Last Thursday

[Anonymous User]

Any firms come to mind, other than Bingham McCutchen, with a glaring financial stability issue?

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The radio silence is killing me. No offers since two weeks ago. Still waiting on cb's as far back as two and a half weeks ago. My stress eating has reached new levels of ridiculous.

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Fenwick SV offer, CB last week.

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Skadden NY Ding just now via email, CB last Thursday.

My offer rate is at 20% right now. I'm panicking. I only have a few more chances...

And yes, I've mass mailed.

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Skadden NY Ding just now via email, CB last Thursday.

My offer rate is at 20% right now. I'm panicking. I only have a few more chances...

And yes, I've mass mailed.

Are you saying that the offers you have are crap? Expected something better? (I'm assuming that if you had a Skadden CB, you're aiming for something high).

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Skadden NY Ding just now via email, CB last Thursday.

My offer rate is at 20% right now. I'm panicking. I only have a few more chances...

And yes, I've mass mailed.

Are you saying that the offers you have are crap? Expected something better? (I'm assuming that if you had a Skadden CB, you're aiming for something high).

OP. One offer, did not like the people at the firm. Also, don't know how stable the firm is, they let go a lot of support staff during the last FY. If I got another offer, almost anywhere else, I would take it.

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Skadden NY Ding just now via email, CB last Thursday.

My offer rate is at 20% right now. I'm panicking. I only have a few more chances...

And yes, I've mass mailed.

Are you saying that the offers you have are crap? Expected something better? (I'm assuming that if you had a Skadden CB, you're aiming for something high).

OP. One offer, did not like the people at the firm. Also, don't know how stable the firm is, they let go a lot of support staff during the last FY. If I got another offer, almost anywhere else, I would take it.

I'll add my crossed fingers for you then. btw, where did you read that they let go support staff?

[Anonymous User]

OP. Crossed fingers worked!

Weil offer just now! CB last Wednesday.

Also, read that info about my other offer from ATL.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

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Pircher CB.

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Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure. Anything more than that sucks, man. Talk to career services about what to do?

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Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure.

+1
Lots of this as well - but has been cordial/supportive.

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Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure. Anything more than that sucks, man. Talk to career services about what to do?

I mean NALP guidelines say that employers HAVE to keep their offers open for 28 days at minimum. Of course there will be firms who will try to manufacture pressure but you sound like someone who has more than a few offers on the table so if they're being so overly aggressive as to violate NALP guidelines you have the ability to tell them to adhere to what their offer letter states. If they're not following NALP guidelines just don't work for that firm that's really sketchy.

In any case, think about it from the perspective of the law firm. They have tons of offers out right now and only a few spots that people can take. It must be a fucking nightmare trying to read us and figure out what we're going to do. Do we extend more offers to people at the risk of having too many acceptances? Do we wait it out longer and risk losing out on the more competitive candidates in our "hold" pile? That's why they're being so aggressive. They're just playing the game . . . as should you. Lead them on - tell them that you need more time, ask them to send you more people, do a second look, and try to figure things out ASAP. Your friends may be waiting for you to release your offer.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure. Anything more than that sucks, man. Talk to career services about what to do?

Try to figure things out ASAP. Your friends may be waiting for you to release your offer.

This. This so much.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure.

+1
Lots of this as well - but has been cordial/supportive.

I've had phone calls from like, 5 random partners and the managing partner has called me quite a bit asking if I need any help in deciding or just "to catch up." Definitely awk and feeling a bit of pressure

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Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure. Anything more than that sucks, man. Talk to career services about what to do?

I mean NALP guidelines say that employers HAVE to keep their offers open for 28 days at minimum. Of course there will be firms who will try to manufacture pressure but you sound like someone who has more than a few offers on the table so if they're being so overly aggressive as to violate NALP guidelines you have the ability to tell them to adhere to what their offer letter states. If they're not following NALP guidelines just don't work for that firm that's really sketchy.

In any case, think about it from the perspective of the law firm. They have tons of offers out right now and only a few spots that people can take. It must be a fucking nightmare trying to read us and figure out what we're going to do. Do we extend more offers to people at the risk of having too many acceptances? Do we wait it out longer and risk losing out on the more competitive candidates in our "hold" pile? That's why they're being so aggressive. They're just playing the game . . . as should you. Lead them on - tell them that you need more time, ask them to send you more people, do a second look, and try to figure things out ASAP. Your friends may be waiting for you to release your offer.

The second paragraph here makes a lot of sense. Firms are just trying to fill their classes, and while they have to give you 28 days, many (especially firms with smaller classes) aren't going to be happy if you sit on your offer for all 28 days. Some firms are conservative and only put out one offer per spot, so they may be waiting to hear from you in order to try to give an offer to another candidate. It may be too late if you sit on it for very long.

But regarding what was said in the first paragraph: under no circumstances should you tell them they have to adhere to what their offer letter states, or push back on the pressure they're applying in a way that comes off as "I'm entitled to my 28 days." You don't know who you are dealing with. The recruiter might think that law students are mostly spoiled, entitled assholes, and you don't want to give them a chance to think you fit that mold. Or you might simply come across as a difficult person. You don't want to make a bad impression. Sit on your offers if you want, but don't give any attitude to HR.

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Anyone else being put under serious/almost unreasonable time pressure with any of their offers?

I have one place that has emailed me a few times asking if I had any questions to help me make my decision, with the clear connotation that they wanted to hear soon. But that is super low pressure. Anything more than that sucks, man. Talk to career services about what to do?

Try to figure things out ASAP. Your friends may be waiting for you to release your offer.

This. This so much.

More pressure - thanks! Ya'll convinced me. I am going to decline a few tomorrow.

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I mean NALP guidelines say that employers HAVE to keep their offers open for 28 days at minimum. Of course there will be firms who will try to manufacture pressure but you sound like someone who has more than a few offers on the table so if they're being so overly aggressive as to violate NALP guidelines you have the ability to tell them to adhere to what their offer letter states. If they're not following NALP guidelines just don't work for that firm that's really sketchy.

In any case, think about it from the perspective of the law firm. They have tons of offers out right now and only a few spots that people can take. It must be a fucking nightmare trying to read us and figure out what we're going to do. Do we extend more offers to people at the risk of having too many acceptances? Do we wait it out longer and risk losing out on the more competitive candidates in our "hold" pile? That's why they're being so aggressive. They're just playing the game . . . as should you. Lead them on - tell them that you need more time, ask them to send you more people, do a second look, and try to figure things out ASAP. Your friends may be waiting for you to release your offer.

But regarding what was said in the first paragraph: under no circumstances should you tell them they have to adhere to what their offer letter states, or push back on the pressure they're applying in a way that comes off as "I'm entitled to my 28 days." You don't know who you are dealing with. The recruiter might think that law students are mostly spoiled, entitled assholes, and you don't want to give them a chance to think you fit that mold. Or you might simply come across as a difficult person. You don't want to make a bad impression. Sit on your offers if you want, but don't give any attitude to HR.

Quoted OP here - just want to clarify, obviously be polite but if a big firm is giving you less than 28 days that's a huge red flag. Report to Career Strategy Center.

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More pressure - thanks! Ya'll convinced me. I am going to decline a few tomorrow.

Thank you, seriously.

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I know that MULTIPLE people have more than 5 offers sitting in the wind. If you do, think about your classmates. You could be holding up an offer that would go to them.

If you KNOW you aren't going to one of the firms that you received an offer to, TURN IT DOWN and let your classmates have a shot at that spot.

Sure, it's no guarantee that your spot will go to a fellow NU student, but why not give other students a chance.

No....I'm not frustrated......

[Anonymous User]

I know that MULTIPLE people have more than 5 offers sitting in the wind. If you do, think about your classmates. You could be holding up an offer that would go to them.

If you KNOW you aren't going to one of the firms that you received an offer to, TURN IT DOWN and let your classmates have a shot at that spot.

Sure, it's no guarantee that your spot will go to a fellow NU student, but why not give other students a chance.

No....I'm not frustrated......

More than 5 open at a time is against NALP rules. Just saying.