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[PvblivsScipio]

No way is this illegal unless there is quid pro quo.

Of course, but the appearance of impropriety is enough to deep-six an Associate, particularly if the SA is female. But in reality, the Associate should be fired for stupidity.

Even if there as no quid pro quo, if the SA does not receive an offer, it's a slam-dunk harassment case. ("He pressured me, and pressured me.....so my work slipped....." No firm wants that public; they settle on day 2.)

I refuse to believe you're going to be an attorney and still don't know what "illegal" means.

[Desert Fox]

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[TLSModBot]

I'm an actual attoreny and I'm not sure whether illegal is the correct term for something that creates a civil cause of action. Plz advice

I think 'actionable' is more correct? Illegal seems to connote criminal in my mind. Not a lawyer though so *shrug*

[03152016]

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sex.cfm

search 'illegal'

[Anonymous User]

2L SA @ southern CA firm... not a 100% firm. Had an outdoor event where were supposed to swim in lake/river with associates/partners while drinking/picnicking/cooking out. I have tattoos so I did not go swimming or take my shirt off.

No offer?

[Anonymous User]

2L SA @ southern CA firm... not a 100% firm. Had an outdoor event where were supposed to swim in lake/river with associates/partners while drinking/picnicking/cooking out. I have tattoos so I did not go swimming or take my shirt off.

No offer?

I don't think that the choice to not undress in front of coworkers and go swimming is something that I - were I in the position to make such decisions - would hold against a summer associate. Its quite different from, say, not going to the bowling event or the baseball game.

[Micdiddy]

2L SA @ southern CA firm... not a 100% firm. Had an outdoor event where were supposed to swim in lake/river with associates/partners while drinking/picnicking/cooking out. I have tattoos so I did not go swimming or take my shirt off.

No offer?

I don't think that the choice to not undress in front of coworkers and go swimming is something that I - were I in the position to make such decisions - would hold against a summer associate. Its quite different from, say, not going to the bowling event or the baseball game.

You would hold it against a summer if they didn't go bowling or to a baseball game???

[Desert Fox]

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[First Offense]

I've got second thoughts about any summer who didn't laugh at my "I don't roll on shabbis" jokes on a friday night bowling outing.

I think that's actually grounds.

My firm doesn't bowl. Shame... I'd crush.

[philepistemer]

I've got second thoughts about any summer who didn't laugh at my "I don't roll on shabbis" jokes on a friday night bowling outing.

I was the one making these jokes at bowling. Accelerated partner track?

[jbagelboy]

I've got second thoughts about any summer who didn't laugh at my "I don't roll on shabbis" jokes on a friday night bowling outing.

Okay I like you even more now

[rpupkin]

I've got second thoughts about any summer who didn't laugh at my "I don't roll on shabbis" jokes on a friday night bowling outing.

I was the one making these jokes at bowling. Accelerated partner track?

DF is not a partner. It's more likely that you're on the "disgruntled midlevel associate track."

[Anonymous User]

2L SA @ southern CA firm... not a 100% firm. Had an outdoor event where were supposed to swim in lake/river with associates/partners while drinking/picnicking/cooking out. I have tattoos so I did not go swimming or take my shirt off.

No offer?

I don't think that the choice to not undress in front of coworkers and go swimming is something that I - were I in the position to make such decisions - would hold against a summer associate. Its quite different from, say, not going to the bowling event or the baseball game.

You would hold it against a summer if they didn't go bowling or to a baseball game???

Haha, no I wouldn't - and as I recall, I actually skipped my firm's bowling event. Skipping an event in general is probably not going to help you (and might hurt you), going is probably going to maintain the status quo, and going but not swimming is very likely not grounds for a no-offer b/c expecting someone to swim in a professional/corporate environment is, weird.

[Anonymous User]

being a summer associate is so fun and easy compared (probably) to the rest of my career and i still think the work is so boring and shitty. I can't believe there are people that actually find this stuff fun (as opposed to not-horrible-i-could-do-it-for-a-few-years). I just want to have lots of money and watch netflix all day and shit. I'm going to make a terrible lawyer lol. Turns out my dream career is trust fund baby.

[Anonymous User]

are there any Kirkland NY SA's here? I'm coming from a different office to work in NY office for a few days this week. Tie or no tie?

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[SplitMyPants]

What should I expect an exit interview to entail?

[rpupkin]

What should I expect an exit interview to entail?

Typical exit interview includes a 20-30 question test, covering the basic topics you should have studied as a 1L: contracts, civil procedure, etc. At most firms, you'll get an offer so long as you hit at least 70%.

[SplitMyPants]

What should I expect an exit interview to entail?

Typical exit interview includes a 20-30 question test, covering the basic topics you should have studied as a 1L: contracts, civil procedure, etc. At most firms, you'll get an offer so long as you hit at least 70%.

Are outlines allowed? MC or free response? Do we get any lifelines?

TYIA

[rpupkin]

What should I expect an exit interview to entail?

Typical exit interview includes a 20-30 question test, covering the basic topics you should have studied as a 1L: contracts, civil procedure, etc. At most firms, you'll get an offer so long as you hit at least 70%.

Are outlines allowed? MC or free response? Do we get any lifelines?

TYIA

It's MC. Most V20 firms are closed book. As for lifelines, I've heard that some regional midlaw firms will let you phone a friend if you get stuck on a question. That's probably flame, though.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else done tomorrow? Can't believe how fast the summer went.

Now to wait on offers...

[TLSModBot]

Anyone else done tomorrow? Can't believe how fast the summer went.

Now to wait on offers...

I have one more week. Man this flew by.