ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012) Forum

[keg411]

I got a research project this morning concerning a client who is in the business of providing portable toilets to construction sites and public gatherings.



I am literally practicing shitlaw right now.

I lol'd. Sorry TTH .

[Anonymous User]

Was supposed to hear about an offer by the end of July. Still haven't heard. Got to try and keep busy today.

[Anonymous User]

To those 1Ls who were offered, what now? There is no need to hassle with OCI. Maintaining good grades becomes a self-imposed goal and not make-or-break requirement. From here on in, what’s the plan Sam?

As far as anxiety, we had one SA (youngest of the group) no one could stand (it would take pages to explain how truly irritating she is), was offered. Knowing that, no one here has anything to worry about.

[rad lulz]

To those 1Ls who were offered, what now? There is no need to hassle with OCI. Maintaining good grades becomes a self-imposed goal and not make-or-break requirement. From here on in, what’s the plan Sam?

As far as anxiety, we had one SA (youngest of the group) no one could stand (it would take pages to explain how truly irritating she is), was offered. Knowing that, no one here has anything to worry about.

You assume that your firm has similar hiring practices as other firms regarding its SA. This assumption is unwarranted.

[romothesavior]

To those 1Ls who were offered, what now? There is no need to hassle with OCI. Maintaining good grades becomes a self-imposed goal and not make-or-break requirement. From here on in, what’s the plan Sam?

Sounds like the plan is to just not screw up in school, don't get arrested, and do a good job next year.

[Anonymous User]

So what is the feeling out there about those who received and accepted offers and are expected to work during the 3L year. Give the work preference? Don't worry about grades? Does school even matter ?

[r6_philly]

So what is the feeling out there about those who received and accepted offers and are expected to work during the 3L year. Give the work preference? Don't worry about grades? Does school even matter ?

If they see fit to hire you during the school year, I think they expect you to focus on work first. You obviously is valuable enough that they want you to start working before graduation, that should speak to how important school is to the firm. But of course don't screw yourself over by getting bad grades. It may not matter to this firm, it may to others down the road.

[Anonymous User]

To those 1Ls who were offered, what now? There is no need to hassle with OCI. Maintaining good grades becomes a self-imposed goal and not make-or-break requirement. From here on in, what’s the plan Sam?

Sounds like the plan is to just not screw up in school, don't get arrested, and do a good job next year.

+1 To stay true to this thread, in spite of the offer, I am anxious, but right now, not sure about what. To use a sports analogy, a 1L SA offer is like being gifted with a 28-point first quarter lead.

[Anonymous User]

Heard about a no-offer at Latham last week. Anyone have the details?

[Anonymous User]

I've heard the same. I think he was given a "you're good" speech?

[letsdoit]

I've heard the same. I think he was given a "you're good" speech?

what is a "you're good" speech? and can y'all elaborate?

[Anonymous User]

I've heard the same. I think he was given a "you're good" speech?

what is a "you're good" speech? and can y'all elaborate?

you know -- "alright. time to get out of here. yup. that's right. yeah. yer good." [escorts drunk patron out of bar]

[somewhatwayward]

Heard about a no-offer at Latham last week. Anyone have the details?

yikes.....must've been a fit problem or bad work product because latham is interviewing 3Ls

[nouseforaname123]

I've heard the same. I think he was given a "you're good" speech?

what is a "you're good" speech? and can y'all elaborate?

you know -- "alright. time to get out of here. yup. that's right. yeah. yer good." [escorts drunk patron out of bar]

Perhaps I'm just dense, but could try to explain that again, please. I have no idea about what you're trying to imply.

[somewhatwayward]

^
hint: he's kidding around

[Anonymous User]

^
hint: he's kidding around

Nope. Not kidding. That's what a "yer good" speech is.

[somewhatwayward]

but the poster asked about a "you're good" speech, not a "yer good" speech

[RodneyBoonfield]

Is it ever ok to ask a partner or associate "do you think I will get an offer" before your summer ends?

[Anonymous User]

but the poster asked about a "you're good" speech, not a "yer good" speech

Same thing.

In the context of the Latham story, the way I heard it was he was no-offered on Wednesday and the program ended Friday. He asked if he should come in the next two days, to which the no-offerer replied, "No. Yer good."

[rad lulz]

Is it ever ok to ask a partner or associate "do you think I will get an offer" before your summer ends?

I wouldn't, unless it was someone I was VERY close to. I might ask my associate mentor "have you heard anything from the people I've worked for or come into contact with in terms of things I can do better or improve upon" periodically, though I guess it's too late for that.

[romothesavior]

Is it ever ok to ask a partner or associate "do you think I will get an offer" before your summer ends?

I wouldn't, unless it was someone I was VERY close to. I might ask my associate mentor "have you heard anything from the people I've worked for or come into contact with in terms of things I can do better or improve upon" periodically, though I guess it's too late for that.

I had some conversations like these with my mentor and my closest associate friend. Both of these are people I'd consider actual buddies though, not just work buddies (like party with and crash on their couch kind of buddies). I didn't ask them straight up either, just mentioned that I was nervous, looking forward to hearing, etc. It was more fishing than just straight up "Tell me if I'll get an offer." I'd tread lightly here.

[RodneyBoonfield]

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing. Its kind of strange isn't it? On one hand you don't want to be presumptuous but, at the same time, partners/associates have to know that you want to know whether or not you will get an offer. Any idea as to what the logic is behind waiting to tell the SA? Is it tradition? To prevent the SA from coasting? This of course is assuming that the firm knows before your summer ends. It may just be that they need time to think and discuss.

[Anonymous User]

So what is the feeling out there about those who received and accepted offers and are expected to work during the 3L year. Give the work preference? Don't worry about grades? Does school even matter ?

If they see fit to hire you during the school year, I think they expect you to focus on work first. You obviously is valuable enough that they want you to start working before graduation, that should speak to how important school is to the firm. But of course don't screw yourself over by getting bad grades. It may not matter to this firm, it may to others down the road.

I'm interested in this as well. Isn't there a 20 hour ABA limit to the amount of time students can work while in school? Are firms mindful of this?

[Anonymous User]

In a casual conversation I brought up dreading the hassle of OCI. All I got was a shrug.

The next day I received a simple email. . . No OCI per te.

Point: Hinting sometimes works!

[Anonymous User]

In a casual conversation I brought up dreading the hassle of OCI. All I got was a shrug.

The next day I received a simple email. . . No OCI per te.

Point: Hinting sometimes works!

2L or 1L? I tried this as a 1L, and it didn't fly.