Columbia EIP 2016 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Skadden, S&C and L&W offers (all NY and all came 1-2 business days after my CB)

[Anonymous User]

Skadden, S&C and L&W offers (all NY and all came 1-2 business days after my CB)

What day/time of day was your Latham CB?

[Anonymous User]

Skadden, S&C and L&W offers (all NY and all came 1-2 business days after my CB)

What day/time of day was your Latham CB?

Monday at 10:30am (heard back Wednesday morning)

[Anonymous User]

Do firms expect you to do a second look after getting an offer (i.e. it demonstrates diligence)? Or do they not care whether you do or don't?

[Anonymous User]

Theory: strong positive correlation between interviewer giving you their card and getting dinged

Not 100% perfect, but seems to have largely held true for me through EIP and CBs

[enibs]

Do firms expect you to do a second look after getting an offer (i.e. it demonstrates diligence)? Or do they not care whether you do or don't?

The point of a second look for the firm is to give them an opportunity to persuade you to accept the offer. If you want to accept the offer without a second look, they'd be delighted.

[Anonymous User]

Theory: strong positive correlation between interviewer giving you their card and getting dinged

Not 100% perfect, but seems to have largely held true for me through EIP and CBs

I don't think there's any relation. I've gotten both offers and rejections from firms where I received business cards

[Anonymous User]

Theory: strong positive correlation between interviewer giving you their card and getting dinged

Not 100% perfect, but seems to have largely held true for me through EIP and CBs

no. there is no correlation

[Wild Card]

Theory: strong positive correlation between interviewer giving you their card and getting dinged

Not 100% perfect, but seems to have largely held true for me through EIP and CBs

10 screener interviewers gave me their cards; 3 invited me to callbacks, 7 dinged me.

I actually felt my heart sink when one of callback interviewers offered me his card, "in case have more any questions." Well, I hear back sometime next week. Will update you.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone who interviewed at DPW (NY) or Paul Weiss (NY) last week hear back?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone who interviewed at DPW (NY) or Paul Weiss (NY) last week hear back?

heard back from PW on Thursday, interviewed earlier in the week

[Anonymous User]

Ropes & Gray offer

When was your callback?

on Monday

What office?

[Anonymous User]

Debevoise offer anyone?

I got my offer one day after my callback fyi

[Anonymous User]

Aside from me, who still doesn't have an offer?

[Anonymous User]

Paul Hastings offer

[Anonymous User]

Had a callback super day last Thursday for Proskauer (NY). Any words yet?

[Anonymous User]

For those who don't have some uber specific practice area lined up -- Culture v Prestige? How are y'all weighing this? Would you go top 5 vault firm over a 10-15 vault firm every time?

[jbagelboy]

For those who don't have some uber specific practice area lined up -- Culture v Prestige? How are y'all weighing this? Would you go top 5 vault firm over a 10-15 vault firm every time?

No, that would be dumb. Vault is only useful in broad swathes. There's likely zero distinction in prestige between a v5 and v10-15, except Wachtell and Williams & Connolly (which are the only firms in the range that substantially differ from the others in prestige).

If you are transactionally focused, S&C/DPW/Cravath/Simpson and maybe Skadden will have a narrow edge over other firms in the v20 (other than wachtell), so if you are completely neutral and want the broadest corporate group strength those might be defaults (but easily outweighed by other considerations). I wouldn't call this prestige.

[Anonymous User]

Paul Hastings offer

When was your callback?

[Anonymous User]

For those who don't have some uber specific practice area lined up -- Culture v Prestige? How are y'all weighing this? Would you go top 5 vault firm over a 10-15 vault firm every time?

No, that would be dumb. Vault is only useful in broad swathes. There's likely zero distinction in prestige between a v5 and v10-15, except Wachtell and Williams & Connolly (which are the only firms in the range that substantially differ from the others in prestige).

If you are transactionally focused, S&C/DPW/Cravath/Simpson and maybe Skadden will have a narrow edge over other firms in the v20 (other than wachtell), so if you are completely neutral and want the broadest corporate group strength those might be defaults (but easily outweighed by other considerations). I wouldn't call this prestige.

Hmm so issue I am facing now is basically while I am transactionally focused and enjoyed Skadden, Gibson was much more "friendly" I guess. Everyone from Gibson was just very kind and each interviewer sent a follow up once I got the offer encouraging me to attend a post-offer event and to answer any questions I may have. Skadden was my first choice going in and I think still is, but am curious how much weight others are giving to the "culture."

[Anonymous User]

For those who don't have some uber specific practice area lined up -- Culture v Prestige? How are y'all weighing this? Would you go top 5 vault firm over a 10-15 vault firm every time?

No, that would be dumb. Vault is only useful in broad swathes. There's likely zero distinction in prestige between a v5 and v10-15, except Wachtell and Williams & Connolly (which are the only firms in the range that substantially differ from the others in prestige).

If you are transactionally focused, S&C/DPW/Cravath/Simpson and maybe Skadden will have a narrow edge over other firms in the v20 (other than wachtell), so if you are completely neutral and want the broadest corporate group strength those might be defaults (but easily outweighed by other considerations). I wouldn't call this prestige.

Hmm so issue I am facing now is basically while I am transactionally focused and enjoyed Skadden, Gibson was much more "friendly" I guess. Everyone from Gibson was just very kind and each interviewer sent a follow up once I got the offer encouraging me to attend a post-offer event and to answer any questions I may have. Skadden was my first choice going in and I think still is, but am curious how much weight others are giving to the "culture."

My philosophy on this is that the difference in "prestige" between firms like these is nonexistent. Look for the practices you want and the people you want to work with, that's going to be the thing that matters. Prestige is going to matter to your next employer theoretically, but any of the firms you've mentioned will be seen in the same way. Anyway, that's how I'm thinking about this.

[Anonymous User]

Shearman offer. Thursday CB.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear back from a late last week Cleary CB?

[Anonymous User]

Theory: strong positive correlation between interviewer giving you their card and getting dinged

Not 100% perfect, but seems to have largely held true for me through EIP and CBs

10 screener interviewers gave me their cards; 3 invited me to callbacks, 7 dinged me.

I actually felt my heart sink when one of callback interviewers offered me his card, "in case have more any questions." Well, I hear back sometime next week. Will update you.

I had an interviewer at EIP give me his card, look at my resume, read my phone number back to me, and asks me if that's correct because he's going to call me.... I have yet to hear back, not even a ding.

[Anonymous User]

Do non v20 firms take longer to give out offers after callbacks?? Like more than 2-3 days