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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:27 pm

That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
Are these 9 offers in separate markets..? The only reason the decision is tough for me at this stage is because i'm having trouble picking between Chicago/NYC. It'd be much easier if they were all in the same market.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by WhiteyCakes » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:33 pm

I think youre an ass for having 9. To some degree it doesn't matter with the first few you drop. Just do it and stop being melodramatic

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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If you're not regulus trolling us then you're an asshole.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
Are these 9 offers in separate markets..? The only reason the decision is tough for me at this stage is because i'm having trouble picking between Chicago/NYC. It'd be much easier if they were all in the same market.
Yes, and that is part of the problem. Part of me wants to stay in Chicago, but the work I am interested in is in DC, and some of the more "prestigious" firms that I am only considering because of exit options are in New York. I also have a couple of offers from CA firms that I think I will turn down but I want to be sure because I am from there and all my family is still out on the West Coast.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Strahilevitz » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
while it is flattering to look at all the offers you have, you should know by now which firms/ cities you prefer over others. anything that is not a top preference for you should be let go. the minute differences between your 9 offers is not enough to justify you ignoring NALP guidelines should your employers find out.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by WheninLaw » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
Are these 9 offers in separate markets..? The only reason the decision is tough for me at this stage is because i'm having trouble picking between Chicago/NYC. It'd be much easier if they were all in the same market.
Yes, and that is part of the problem. Part of me wants to stay in Chicago, but the work I am interested in is in DC, and some of the more "prestigious" firms that I am only considering because of exit options are in New York. I also have a couple of offers from CA firms that I think I will turn down but I want to be sure because I am from there and all my family is still out on the West Coast.
You are absolutely obnoxious.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
Are these 9 offers in separate markets..? The only reason the decision is tough for me at this stage is because i'm having trouble picking between Chicago/NYC. It'd be much easier if they were all in the same market.
Yes, and that is part of the problem. Part of me wants to stay in Chicago, but the work I am interested in is in DC, and some of the more "prestigious" firms that I am only considering because of exit options are in New York. I also have a couple of offers from CA firms that I think I will turn down but I want to be sure because I am from there and all my family is still out on the West Coast.
I've already accepted an offer so what you do doesn't affect me personally, but this is ridiculous. Get your life together and make some decisions.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by beepboopbeep » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:15 pm

If you can't narrow it down from NINE firms at this point, you deserve to make the wrong decision (and regret it for years, if not decades).

People change firms/markets and lateral. You aren't making a thirty-year commitment.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Emma. » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:51 pm

beepboopbeep wrote:If you can't narrow it down from NINE firms at this point, you deserve to make the wrong decision (and regret it for years, if not decades).

People change firms/markets and lateral. You aren't making a thirty-year commitment.
Basically this. Also, do NOT make forms pay for 9 different look back visits. Grow the fuck up and make a decision.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Still not convinced it's not a Regulus troll

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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WhiteyCakes wrote:Still not convinced it's not a Regulus troll
Me neither. I reported it just in case.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
Are these 9 offers in separate markets..? The only reason the decision is tough for me at this stage is because i'm having trouble picking between Chicago/NYC. It'd be much easier if they were all in the same market.
Yes, and that is part of the problem. Part of me wants to stay in Chicago, but the work I am interested in is in DC, and some of the more "prestigious" firms that I am only considering because of exit options are in New York. I also have a couple of offers from CA firms that I think I will turn down but I want to be sure because I am from there and all my family is still out on the West Coast.
Assuming this isn't troll, yes, targeting multiple markets will definitely result in holding more offers, because you'll probably debate between 2 or 3 firms per market. But still -- 9 feels excessive, as does 4 markets. And these don't seem like particularly compelling reasons to have so many. And even if you were debating between two firms in each market, you still wouldn't have all these open at once, since a series of CB's in NY, for example, you could narrow down the "NY" firm before moving on to DC or CA.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by WhiteyCakes » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:28 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
WhiteyCakes wrote:Still not convinced it's not a Regulus troll
Me neither. I reported it just in case.
Mods please out this fool

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:09 pm

Strahilevitz wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:That is oversimplifying things a bit I think. I am currently sitting on 9 offers and waiting to do second looks before knocking employers off my list for good. This decision will likely affect the rest of my career, so I don't think it is right or fair for anyone to pressure myself or others in a similar position into rushing to a conclusion before the 28-day period is over.
while it is flattering to look at all the offers you have, you should know by now which firms/ cities you prefer over others. anything that is not a top preference for you should be let go. the minute differences between your 9 offers is not enough to justify you ignoring NALP guidelines should your employers find out.
I am trying to decide as quickly as possible. When I exceeded the recommended limit of 5 it was one right after another. According to the NALP rules, I have at least a week to bring the number of offers back within the limit:
NALP wrote:A candidate should not hold open more than five offers of employment at any one time. For each offer received that places a candidate over the offer limit, the candidate should, within one week of receipt of the excess offer, release an offer.
I plan on visiting all of the DC and NY firms this upcoming week and bringing the number of offers down to 4 based on what I feel during second looks. I will probably use most of the 28 days deciding between the final four that I narrow it down to.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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This guy is such a fuckbag.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Emma. » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:19 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:This guy is such a fuckbag.
Yup.

FYI, OP, I've had several hiring partners tell me that being too precious about this decision (multiple lookbacks, insisting on talking to tens of busy attorneys, etc) is absolutely something that firms will hold against you. While they won't rescind your offer for that kind of stuff, you can easily wind up starting the summer with a black mark against you.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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It's regulus. Crisis averted.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Did anyone do a CB with Edelson, & have you heard back?

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:46 am

anyone know if DPW does an offer dinner for us? Meeting more of them here in Chicago would be easier than revisiting

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Anonymous User wrote:anyone know if DPW does an offer dinner for us? Meeting more of them here in Chicago would be easier than revisiting
Yes they do

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:38 pm

Declined two Chicago offers today from last week. So I'm hoping they go to other people ITT.

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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Anonymous User wrote:Declined two Chicago offers today from last week. So I'm hoping they go to other people ITT.
What firms?

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:02 pm

Jones Day NYC ding by mail, callback on the 10th

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Re: UChicago OCI 2014

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BakerHostetler ny ding via snail mail

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