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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by LRGhost » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:29 pm

She sounds like she sucks but also, yeah, it's sort of shitty to brag or big up yourself on FB about your offer, especially when some of your classmates are sweating it without. It's not terrible but it's sort of a tact thing. Nobody can really share in your good fortune. It's not like you got married or had a kid. This is a game where if you got it, someone close to you may not have and that kind of sucks.

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Post by jbagelboy » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:32 pm

WokeUpInACar wrote:I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?
I mean, it's not symptomatic of "butthurt" to say that I don't understand people who make obnoxious facebook posts about their career and evince clear lack of tact and sensitivity. Especially if you're at a TTT, most of your friends definitely don't have V20 offers, or even a shot in hell at getting one. Updating your new job or posting about an offer on LinkedIn is one thing - that's your professional platform. Facebook? Idk. I don't care if someone does it. We're not raging against the practice. I just don't understand why the student would, what part of their psychology drives that need for mixed attention. For example, I would be incredibly discrete in that person's position - even moreso than at a top school, where such offers are more or less par for the course.

the fact that only insufferable students make these kinds of moves and all the normal people you know are choosing their broadcasts more selectively should be a pretty good tell

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Post by DELG » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:33 pm

WokeUpInACar wrote:I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?
It wouldn't be a big idea if it wasn't at the exact same moment that a bunch of people just took a giant veiny cock up the ass by life.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by rpupkin » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:35 pm

LRGhost wrote:She sounds like she sucks but also, yeah, it's sort of shitty to brag or big up yourself on FB about your offer, especially when some of your classmates are sweating it without. It's not terrible but it's sort of a tact thing. Nobody can really share in your good fortune.
Well, her friends and family can share in her good fortune. People have social lives outside of law school.

I would never post about a job offer on FB, but I'd cut her more slack than others here. If you go to a TTT, getting an offer from an elite big law firm is like getting a SCOTUS clerkship out of HYS. It's a big deal and she's understandably enthusiastic.

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Post by Charger » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:42 pm

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WokeUpInACar wrote:I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?
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A serious question: If I'm up working until 3:30 am tonight, and I have to be up at 6:15 am, is it worth going to sleep? I also need to wake up at 5:00 am the day after that, and I'll be out late that night. Advice?
The good news is that there is absolutely no line at Chipotle. The bad news is that I'm only here because I have to work this weekend. So is the no-line business really a win? Lol
I get to see the German defense minister and Henry Kissinger speaking #iworkatthebestlawfirmever
Insufferable. It's so hard to congratulate someone on a job well done (which, it is, coming from a TTT and all) when they post this shit.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:45 pm

recruiting just called to ask for my mailing address back at school (school not in market of SA) and my school email (they had it somewhere on file, but wanted to confirm it with me). good sign? is your offer typically mailed out after you are told via phone/email? I know it's probably just a standard practice, but it seems weird to need to confirm my mailing address with me without intending to send anything.

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Post by Pikappraider » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
WokeUpInACar wrote:I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?
more gems that make me hate her status
A serious question: If I'm up working until 3:30 am tonight, and I have to be up at 6:15 am, is it worth going to sleep? I also need to wake up at 5:00 am the day after that, and I'll be out late that night. Advice?
The good news is that there is absolutely no line at Chipotle. The bad news is that I'm only here because I have to work this weekend. So is the no-line business really a win? Lol
I get to see the German defense minister and Henry Kissinger speaking #iworkatthebestlawfirmever
barf. This is why I haven't logged into facebook in 2 years

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Post by fl0w » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:50 pm

DELG wrote: It wouldn't be a big idea if it wasn't at the exact same moment that a bunch of people just took a giant veiny cock up the ass by life.
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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:recruiting just called to ask for my mailing address back at school (school not in market of SA) and my school email (they had it somewhere on file, but wanted to confirm it with me). good sign? is your offer typically mailed out after you are told via phone/email? I know it's probably just a standard practice, but it seems weird to need to confirm my mailing address with me without intending to send anything.
To be able to send your tax stuff at the end of the year, maybe?

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Post by txdude45 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:recruiting just called to ask for my mailing address back at school (school not in market of SA) and my school email (they had it somewhere on file, but wanted to confirm it with me). good sign? is your offer typically mailed out after you are told via phone/email? I know it's probably just a standard practice, but it seems weird to need to confirm my mailing address with me without intending to send anything.
Final checks are mailed as well.

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Post by Mal Reynolds » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:58 pm

WokeUpInACar wrote:I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?
You are the worst.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:09 pm

WokeUpInACar wrote:I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?
Probably because Facebook is more than just a "keep in contact with close friends/family" platform these days. It's akin to the people who post their LS grades on Facebook. There's this thing called a phone, or *gasp* face-to-face contact, to tell the 5-10 people in your life who actually matter (family, SO, best friend, etc.) your good news that you're understandably excited about.

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Post by hdunlop » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:13 pm

If you can't celebrate employment on Facebook why have Facebook. If hearing Henry Kissinger speak gives you joy why live.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:40 pm

Received an offer today. Ecstatic.

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Post by jbagelboy » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:40 pm

hdunlop wrote:If you can't celebrate employment on Facebook why have Facebook. If hearing Henry Kissinger speak gives you joy why live.
I laughed.

to be real, the girl probably was on her phone the entire time he spoke and wouldn't have understood a word of it anyway.

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Post by 09042014 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:50 pm

I don't see full time offer self congratulation nearly as bad as grades or OCI offers because there really isn't direct competition with anyone on your facebook feed. If one of your facebook was friends was no offed by your firm, then that's a different story.

But it's not like butthurt no jerbs were in the running for a Deby's boys offer anyway.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:26 pm

had my weekly meeting with my mentor today, and i was encouraged to take 3 hour lunches and fuck around. i'm gonna miss this job

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Post by PepperJack » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:58 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I don't see full time offer self congratulation nearly as bad as grades or OCI offers because there really isn't direct competition with anyone on your facebook feed. If one of your facebook was friends was no offed by your firm, then that's a different story.

But it's not like butthurt no jerbs were in the running for a Deby's boys offer anyway.
Don't see the difference. The odds of one specific person being why you didn't get an OCI person, or a specific grade are very low. You're still showing off about a specific type of result that some people either wanted and didn't get, or are stressed out about. The issue is your post invokes memories that makes others feel bad for no beneficial outcome to you.

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Post by OneMoreLawHopeful » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:36 pm

PepperJack wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't see full time offer self congratulation nearly as bad as grades or OCI offers because there really isn't direct competition with anyone on your facebook feed. If one of your facebook was friends was no offed by your firm, then that's a different story.

But it's not like butthurt no jerbs were in the running for a Deby's boys offer anyway.
Don't see the difference. The odds of one specific person being why you didn't get an OCI person, or a specific grade are very low. You're still showing off about a specific type of result that some people either wanted and didn't get, or are stressed out about. The issue is your post invokes memories that makes others feel bad for no beneficial outcome to you.
No, the situations are totally different.

Everyone will ultimately know your employment outcome. Like, what's going to happen at the end of 3L? You'll start a job that you're never allowed to talk about? Of course not. If you now have post-grad employment, it's going to come out at some point in the near-term no matter what.

The same is patently untrue about grades. You can literally get through your whole LS career, and job, without any friend finding out what grade you got in any 1 class. Unlike who you work for, there's just no guarantee it's ever going to become public info. Sure people might see honors or some shit at graduation and get a general idea, but posting "I got an A in Contracts!" is sharing something that no one will ever know if you don't post it.

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:40 pm

If everyone's going to know where you're working eventually, why the need to announce it on FB?

(I mean, it's not like it's an outrageously bizarre thing to post about, but personally I just limited posts like that to non-LS people and the LS people I was genuinely close enough with to believe they honestly wanted to know.)

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Post by OneMoreLawHopeful » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:51 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:If everyone's going to know where you're working eventually, why the need to announce it on FB?

(I mean, it's not like it's an outrageously bizarre thing to post about, but personally I just limited posts like that to non-LS people and the LS people I was genuinely close enough with to believe they honestly wanted to know.)
Everyone usually figures out when you're in a relationship too, but that still gets posted to FB.

Outside of the law school context, posts on FB that say things like "I got that job at Twitter!" all the damn time. Getting a new job/starting your new career is a very normal life milestone that most people share with others they know.

I appreciate the desire to be tactful, and I agree that posts which say things like "Box seats at the game #bestfirmever" are tasteless, but honestly telling people they shouldn't share a major life event like finding out where they're going to work the next several years is taking law student neurosis to a whole new perverse level.

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Post by Neal Patrick Harris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:12 pm

PepperJack wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't see full time offer self congratulation nearly as bad as grades or OCI offers because there really isn't direct competition with anyone on your facebook feed. If one of your facebook was friends was no offed by your firm, then that's a different story.

But it's not like butthurt no jerbs were in the running for a Deby's boys offer anyway.
Don't see the difference. The odds of one specific person being why you didn't get an OCI person, or a specific grade are very low. You're still showing off about a specific type of result that some people either wanted and didn't get, or are stressed out about. The issue is your post invokes memories that makes others feel bad for no beneficial outcome to you.

Do you really not understand the difference? Really? It's explained in the post.

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Post by philly33 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:13 pm

OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If everyone's going to know where you're working eventually, why the need to announce it on FB?

(I mean, it's not like it's an outrageously bizarre thing to post about, but personally I just limited posts like that to non-LS people and the LS people I was genuinely close enough with to believe they honestly wanted to know.)
Everyone usually figures out when you're in a relationship too, but that still gets posted to FB.

Outside of the law school context, posts on FB that say things like "I got that job at Twitter!" all the damn time. Getting a new job/starting your new career is a very normal life milestone that most people share with others they know.

I appreciate the desire to be tactful, and I agree that posts which say things like "Box seats at the game #bestfirmever" are tasteless, but honestly telling people they shouldn't share a major life event like finding out where they're going to work the next several years is taking law student neurosis to a whole new perverse level.
+1

Friends in other fields post job/professional life successes on Facebook all the time. I get that law school is super competitive, but so are many other fields. I refrain from doing it just because of this silly unspoken rule, but I really wish law students weren't so sensitive sometimes. At some point you just need to chill and be happy for your friends.

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:22 pm

Outside the law school context, people aren't all in the same pool competing for mostly the same jobs at the same time, though. My friend who's a pediatrician saying she got a new job wherever is different from someone in my law school class posting that they got an offer while I'm still waiting to hear. (Not that I'm not still happy for that person - I am. Though my degree of happiness will probably be tempered by the degree to which that person posts nothing but smug comments about how wonderful their life is, to be honest.)

Like I said, it's not some outrageously obnoxious thing to post, and people shouldn't be devastated by seeing it, but I just don't get why it's necessary to announce it on FB to everyone from your LS.

But then, I don't leap to put my relationship status on FB either.

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