Duke Law OCI 2016 (c/o 2018) Forum

[Anonymous User]

For the journals on our resumes- what is the proper title? I remember previously that we can put staff editor of X. Is that for every journal or?

Dang, you make me feel like I should get my butt off the couch, stop watching Netflix, and actually do something productive. What's it been, like a few hours?

The sample resumes on the toolkit list it like this:

Duke Law Journal, Staff Editor

I can't imagine it would be any different for other journals. It's listed under "honors."

[Anonymous User]

For the journals on our resumes- what is the proper title? I remember previously that we can put staff editor of X. Is that for every journal or?

Dang, you make me feel like I should get my butt off the couch, stop watching Netflix, and actually do something productive. What's it been, like a few hours?

The sample resumes on the toolkit list it like this:

Duke Law Journal, Staff Editor

I can't imagine it would be any different for other journals. It's listed under "honors."

Thanks. I had a few callbacks already and I know one place is actually waiting on the journal decisions before making a final decision whether to offer or not offer. So I would like to email those places tonight so they have my new resume starting tomorrow morning.

[Anonymous User]

For the journals on our resumes- what is the proper title? I remember previously that we can put staff editor of X. Is that for every journal or?

Dang, you make me feel like I should get my butt off the couch, stop watching Netflix, and actually do something productive. What's it been, like a few hours?

The sample resumes on the toolkit list it like this:

Duke Law Journal, Staff Editor

I can't imagine it would be any different for other journals. It's listed under "honors."

FYI lots of people put their journal under activities instead of honors. Honestly if it isn't DLJ I would definitely do Activities. If DLJ then you make the call depending on how much you trust career services. And ultimately it probably doesn't matter either way

[Anonymous User]

For the journals on our resumes- what is the proper title? I remember previously that we can put staff editor of X. Is that for every journal or?

Dang, you make me feel like I should get my butt off the couch, stop watching Netflix, and actually do something productive. What's it been, like a few hours?

The sample resumes on the toolkit list it like this:

Duke Law Journal, Staff Editor

I can't imagine it would be any different for other journals. It's listed under "honors."

FYI lots of people put their journal under activities instead of honors. Honestly if it isn't DLJ I would definitely do Activities. If DLJ then you make the call depending on how much you trust career services. And ultimately it probably doesn't matter either way

Could we say "Activities/Honors" or would that look strange?

[Anonymous User]

Do activities, everyone knows that DLJ is a big deal and putting it as an honor makes you sound weird

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

I'll start. What firms (especially DC) really do have hardcore gpa cutoffs. A lot "say" they do and the data shows they don't really follow it. Are there still that firms if you are under whatever gpa they just won't even bother talking to you at an interview?

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

I'll start. What firms (especially DC) really do have hardcore gpa cutoffs. A lot "say" they do and the data shows they don't really follow it. Are there still that firms if you are under whatever gpa they just won't even bother talking to you at an interview?

In DC this is the case with W&C and Covington. Also maybe Wilmer and Gibson.

If you are looking at DC with a good but not outstanding GPA then I would aim more for A&P, Hogan, JD, Kirkland, Skadden, Cleary, Akin.

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

I'll start. What firms (especially DC) really do have hardcore gpa cutoffs. A lot "say" they do and the data shows they don't really follow it. Are there still that firms if you are under whatever gpa they just won't even bother talking to you at an interview?

In DC this is the case with W&C and Covington. Also maybe Wilmer and Gibson.

If you are looking at DC with a good but not outstanding GPA then I would aim more for A&P, Hogan, JD, Kirkland, Skadden, Cleary, Akin.

Thanks. I already had a callback and doing a callback later today so if something worked out before OCI bidding ends with either place, I figure to take a few more "shots" so to speak with firms in DC. But also a big "if".

[Anonymous User]

If you've got an interview at a diversity fair (one where in past years, firms have been very stingy with callbacks) and don't get a callback with a firm, is it at all worth using a bid for them at OCI? (the bid would be in the 20-30 range)

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

I'll start. What firms (especially DC) really do have hardcore gpa cutoffs. A lot "say" they do and the data shows they don't really follow it. Are there still that firms if you are under whatever gpa they just won't even bother talking to you at an interview?

In DC this is the case with W&C and Covington. Also maybe Wilmer and Gibson.

If you are looking at DC with a good but not outstanding GPA then I would aim more for A&P, Hogan, JD, Kirkland, Skadden, Cleary, Akin.

TCR. W&C isn't worth your time unless you're at least at 3.7.

I don't know if this is what you're doing, but think very hard before bidding exclusively DC. It's a bitch of a market. Take how tough you think it is, double that, and plan based on that.

[Anonymous User]

(accidental double post)

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

I'll start. What firms (especially DC) really do have hardcore gpa cutoffs. A lot "say" they do and the data shows they don't really follow it. Are there still that firms if you are under whatever gpa they just won't even bother talking to you at an interview?

In DC this is the case with W&C and Covington. Also maybe Wilmer and Gibson.

If you are looking at DC with a good but not outstanding GPA then I would aim more for A&P, Hogan, JD, Kirkland, Skadden, Cleary, Akin.

TCR. W&C isn't worth your time unless you're at least at 3.7.

I don't know if this is what you're doing, but think very hard before bidding exclusively DC. It's a bitch of a market. Take how tough you think it is, double that, and plan based on that.

The 10th percentile GPA of those given offers was 3.64, and 25th was 3.73. If there were 20 offers, 2 were below 3.64 (below or at? -my math sucks). And 3 were between 3.64 and a 3.73.

If we are in that the range between 3.64-3.73 we still have a small shot. Especially if we would bring diversity to the firm, or have DLJ, or a clerkship lined up, right?

[Anonymous User]

3L here who just found out OCI bidding opened today. All this drama about journal assignments, and not one of you asked about your OCI bid lists??

I'll start. What firms (especially DC) really do have hardcore gpa cutoffs. A lot "say" they do and the data shows they don't really follow it. Are there still that firms if you are under whatever gpa they just won't even bother talking to you at an interview?

In DC this is the case with W&C and Covington. Also maybe Wilmer and Gibson.

If you are looking at DC with a good but not outstanding GPA then I would aim more for A&P, Hogan, JD, Kirkland, Skadden, Cleary, Akin.

TCR. W&C isn't worth your time unless you're at least at 3.7.

I don't know if this is what you're doing, but think very hard before bidding exclusively DC. It's a bitch of a market. Take how tough you think it is, double that, and plan based on that.

The 10th percentile GPA of those given offers was 3.64, and 25th was 3.73. If there were 20 offers, 2 were below 3.64 (below or at? -my math sucks). And 3 were between 3.64 and a 3.73.

If we are in that the range between 3.64-3.73 we still have a small shot. Especially if we would bring diversity to the firm, or have DLJ, or a clerkship lined up, right?

Thats like one sub 3.7 offer a year, right? It happens, but in general, DC is more grade conscious than pretty much any other market, and WC is probably the most grade conscious firm period. I can only really go off my experience. I was 3.8x, DLJ, other brass rings (that could out me), and interview at least average (based on other results). No CB at WC. These are very small classes and "fit" is also a factor--which can cut both ways--so there's more idiosyncrasies with DC on top of grade selectivity. 3.6x is pushing it, but hey, WC has enough OCI slots you can bid them 5-10 and still get an interview, so could be worth a shot, I'm just saying it's a long shot. (Maybe "not worth your" time was a bit strong--a bit).

Clerkship would definitely help though. WC, Gibson, Wilmer, Covington, et al do love their clerks.

[Anonymous User]

Consider your demographics when reading these GPA breakdowns as well. If you are/have:

*Military veteran
*Relevant work experience
*Racial or ethnic minority
*LGBT
*Female
*Legacy, i.e. your parent(s) or close family worked at the firm

Then you are the type of person who has a shot at those 10th percentile GPA offers. If none of those apply to you, you will not be the 10th percentile person. Plan accordingly

DLJ also plays a role in these super selective firms, but for some of them, it's not an added bonus so much as it is a necessary bar to clear just to get taken seriously at OCI.

[Anonymous User]

Consider your demographics when reading these GPA breakdowns as well. If you are/have:

*Military veteran
*Relevant work experience
*Racial or ethnic minority
*LGBT
*Female
*Legacy, i.e. your parent(s) or close family worked at the firm

Then you are the type of person who has a shot at those 10th percentile GPA offers. If none of those apply to you, you will not be the 10th percentile person. Plan accordingly

DLJ also plays a role in these super selective firms, but for some of them, it's not an added bonus so much as it is a necessary bar to clear just to get taken seriously at OCI.

Female is a boost? Aren't the associate classes for most Biglaw firms these days (pretty) evenly divided?

[Anonymous User]

I was 3.8x, DLJ, other brass rings (that could out me), and interview at least average (based on other results). No CB at WC.

DANG

[Anonymous User]

For Wilmer, Symplicity says top 15% REQUIRED. What GPA does that correspond with?

[okay718]

Consider your demographics when reading these GPA breakdowns as well. If you are/have:

*Military veteran
*Relevant work experience
*Racial or ethnic minority
*LGBT
*Female
*Legacy, i.e. your parent(s) or close family worked at the firm

Then you are the type of person who has a shot at those 10th percentile GPA offers. If none of those apply to you, you will not be the 10th percentile person. Plan accordingly

DLJ also plays a role in these super selective firms, but for some of them, it's not an added bonus so much as it is a necessary bar to clear just to get taken seriously at OCI.

Female is a boost? Aren't the associate classes for most Biglaw firms these days (pretty) evenly divided?

My guess is that it is still a boost because all though associate classes are fairly even most BigLaw leadership is comprised of males. So need to recruit women heavy and try to retain more.

[Anonymous User]

Would any rising 3Ls be willing to post their bid lists from last year with information about which firms you got interviews and/or callbacks?

[Anonymous User]

Bumping because this thread has been so helpful!

If any 3Ls are willing to post their bidlists, gpa range, and where they got callbacks, that would be AMAZING. We'll be sure to return the favor next year =)

[Anonymous User]

Bumping because this thread has been so helpful!

If any 3Ls are willing to post their bidlists, gpa range, and where they got callbacks, that would be AMAZING. We'll be sure to return the favor next year =)

2L, interested as well.

[Anonymous User]

Bumping again. So not really OCI related, but...anyone want to estimate how much of our work week DLJ or another journal is going to take up? Accepted and now am worried.

Also, is it weird to have gotten DLJ and none of the non-exclusive journals, even after applying to all of them? Was hoping for Law & Tech

[Anonymous User]

Deleting duplicate post

[Anonymous User]

Bumping again. So not really OCI related, but...anyone want to estimate how much of our work week DLJ or another journal is going to take up? Accepted and now am worried.

Also, is it weird to have gotten DLJ and none of the non-exclusive journals, even after applying to all of them? Was hoping for Law & Tech

Non-exclusive journals haven't finished extending offers, so...