1L Summer Job Search C/O 2017 Forum

[Anonymous User]

are you from H?

[Patent2014]

Had a callback with firm B after accepting a first-half offer from firm A. Didn't mention the accepted offer to firm B. I found out pretty early in the callback that firm B doesn't like to do second-half internships. I didn't cut the callback short or anything like that, thinking that maybe it wasn't a hard-and-fast rule.

Got an offer from B a few days later, and sure enough, they won't do a second-half internship, so I had to decline. I know that job hunting should probably be "always business, never personal", but I feel bad about declining, and I'm wondering if I should have told them about my accepted first-half offer up front and given them a chance to cancel the callback?

too late now, best not to worry about it. i probably would tell someone up front though, saves both you and them time if they dont allow splits

Thanks, that makes sense. I'm just now learning that even when a firm says they *do* allow splits, the unspoken rest of the sentence is usually "as long as we're the first half."

Yeah. I never understood this. How do people even split? Every firm that allows it "must be the first half."

It's often with the firm you spend your 1L summer at. Spend first half of 2L summer at a new firm and second half with your previous summer's firm.

[Anonymous User]

Ding'd by Cooley after CB

[BVest]

Yeah. I never understood this. How do people even split? Every firm that allows it "must be the first half."

Texas

That. And lit boutiques.

Why is that? (The boutiques, not Texas.)

I don't know why. I suspect it's because they have smaller SA classes and therefore have a less rigid structure and thus more flexibility. Some if it may also be that the ones I know most about are based in Texas (even if having national presence). But even within Texas, it's the lit boutiques that seem more willing to take second half, while there are maybe 1/3-1/2 of Texas biglaw offices that take second half, and some of them seem to do so begrudgingly.

[Anonymous User]

Ding ding ding at Stoel Rives at Seattle and Portland

Email or regular mail?

I'm sure I'm just waiting for a rejection letter now, but I haven't heard anything from them.

[BaberhamLincoln]

I don't get the point of regular mail rejections

It almost seems more considerate ("hey we took the time to put a stamp on something and put it in a mail slot") but it takes so much longer than an email and is just kinda weird to hold and throw away

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear back from Baker Botts or Fulbright, Dallas or Houston?

[Anonymous User]

I know of a BB Dallas offer and a Fulbright Houston offer.

[Anonymous User]

I recently received what appears to be an automated message from Paul Hastings, about a month after I applied. I'm trying to determine whether this is a ding, a random update, or a request to re-send everything that I've already sent them. Here's the body:

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Greetings!

We appreciate your interest in Paul Hastings, and we would like to stay in touch with you. We are pleased to introduce PH Tips: an email series of best practices to hone your knowledge of the legal industry and various practice areas, enhance your professional presence, prepare for the on-campus interview process, and facilitate your transition to life as a law firm associate.

Be on the lookout for our first PH Tips installment soon. In the meantime, here are two simple ways to connect with PH:

Follow us on Twitter @PH_RECRUITING for #recruitingupdates
Check out the Law Students section of our website for details about our hiring process and our Summer Program

If you are interested in future opportunities with Paul Hastings, please send your resume, unofficial transcript (when available), and a cover letter discussing what your practice area interests are and which of our offices you are interested in to attorneyrecruiting@paulhastings.com.

We look forward to connecting with you!

Best regards,
Paul Hastings Global Talent Acquisition Team

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Did anyone else receive this? Should I just call and ask if they're done hiring?

[Anonymous User]

I recently received what appears to be an automated message from Paul Hastings, about a month after I applied. I'm trying to determine whether this is a ding, a random update, or a request to re-send everything that I've already sent them. Here's the body:

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Greetings!

We appreciate your interest in Paul Hastings, and we would like to stay in touch with you. We are pleased to introduce PH Tips: an email series of best practices to hone your knowledge of the legal industry and various practice areas, enhance your professional presence, prepare for the on-campus interview process, and facilitate your transition to life as a law firm associate.

Be on the lookout for our first PH Tips installment soon. In the meantime, here are two simple ways to connect with PH:

Follow us on Twitter @PH_RECRUITING for #recruitingupdates
Check out the Law Students section of our website for details about our hiring process and our Summer Program

If you are interested in future opportunities with Paul Hastings, please send your resume, unofficial transcript (when available), and a cover letter discussing what your practice area interests are and which of our offices you are interested in to attorneyrecruiting@paulhastings.com.

We look forward to connecting with you!

Best regards,
Paul Hastings Global Talent Acquisition Team

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Did anyone else receive this? Should I just call and ask if they're done hiring?

i got the same

no idea wtf it means

did you apply to PH and are you at a t14? wondering if they're just spamming or actually responding to applicants

[nothingtosee]

#recruitingupdates

[Anonymous User]

I recently received what appears to be an automated message from Paul Hastings, about a month after I applied. I'm trying to determine whether this is a ding, a random update, or a request to re-send everything that I've already sent them. Here's the body:

-
Greetings!

We appreciate your interest in Paul Hastings, and we would like to stay in touch with you. We are pleased to introduce PH Tips: an email series of best practices to hone your knowledge of the legal industry and various practice areas, enhance your professional presence, prepare for the on-campus interview process, and facilitate your transition to life as a law firm associate.

Be on the lookout for our first PH Tips installment soon. In the meantime, here are two simple ways to connect with PH:

Follow us on Twitter @PH_RECRUITING for #recruitingupdates
Check out the Law Students section of our website for details about our hiring process and our Summer Program

If you are interested in future opportunities with Paul Hastings, please send your resume, unofficial transcript (when available), and a cover letter discussing what your practice area interests are and which of our offices you are interested in to attorneyrecruiting@paulhastings.com.

We look forward to connecting with you!

Best regards,
Paul Hastings Global Talent Acquisition Team

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Did anyone else receive this? Should I just call and ask if they're done hiring?

i got the same

no idea wtf it means

did you apply to PH and are you at a t14? wondering if they're just spamming or actually responding to applicants

lower t14, around top 10%, URM

[Anonymous User]

Anyone here back from any KC or STL firms yet?

[Anonymous User]

I recently received what appears to be an automated message from Paul Hastings, about a month after I applied. I'm trying to determine whether this is a ding, a random update, or a request to re-send everything that I've already sent them. Here's the body:

-
Greetings!

We appreciate your interest in Paul Hastings, and we would like to stay in touch with you. We are pleased to introduce PH Tips: an email series of best practices to hone your knowledge of the legal industry and various practice areas, enhance your professional presence, prepare for the on-campus interview process, and facilitate your transition to life as a law firm associate.

Be on the lookout for our first PH Tips installment soon. In the meantime, here are two simple ways to connect with PH:

Follow us on Twitter @PH_RECRUITING for #recruitingupdates
Check out the Law Students section of our website for details about our hiring process and our Summer Program

If you are interested in future opportunities with Paul Hastings, please send your resume, unofficial transcript (when available), and a cover letter discussing what your practice area interests are and which of our offices you are interested in to attorneyrecruiting@paulhastings.com.

We look forward to connecting with you!

Best regards,
Paul Hastings Global Talent Acquisition Team

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Did anyone else receive this? Should I just call and ask if they're done hiring?

i got the same

no idea wtf it means

did you apply to PH and are you at a t14? wondering if they're just spamming or actually responding to applicants

lower t14, around top 10%, URM

I got it too. HYS, above median, possibly URM in the loosest sense of the term (firm wise).

[Anonymous User]

I recently received what appears to be an automated message from Paul Hastings, about a month after I applied. I'm trying to determine whether this is a ding, a random update, or a request to re-send everything that I've already sent them. Here's the body:

-
Greetings!

We appreciate your interest in Paul Hastings, and we would like to stay in touch with you. We are pleased to introduce PH Tips: an email series of best practices to hone your knowledge of the legal industry and various practice areas, enhance your professional presence, prepare for the on-campus interview process, and facilitate your transition to life as a law firm associate.

Be on the lookout for our first PH Tips installment soon. In the meantime, here are two simple ways to connect with PH:

Follow us on Twitter @PH_RECRUITING for #recruitingupdates
Check out the Law Students section of our website for details about our hiring process and our Summer Program

If you are interested in future opportunities with Paul Hastings, please send your resume, unofficial transcript (when available), and a cover letter discussing what your practice area interests are and which of our offices you are interested in to attorneyrecruiting@paulhastings.com.

We look forward to connecting with you!

Best regards,
Paul Hastings Global Talent Acquisition Team

-
Did anyone else receive this? Should I just call and ask if they're done hiring?

i got the same

no idea wtf it means

did you apply to PH and are you at a t14? wondering if they're just spamming or actually responding to applicants

lower t14, around top 10%, URM

I got it too. HYS, above median, possibly URM in the loosest sense of the term (firm wise).

did you guys actually apply to PH or was it unsolicited?

[BVest]

Sounds like they just created (or just added all of this year's applicants to date to) a recruiting listserv. Expect to be solicited by them on occasion from now until you give up that email address.

[pancakes3]

Anyone heard from the following in-house companies?

MetLife
GE Capital
Walmart
Microsoft
JetBlue
Boeing
Lockheed Martin
Rolls-Royce
Morgan Stanley
Prudential
Bristol-Myers

Lockheed. Is there a non-Arkansas Wal Mart job?

Never heard back from Metlife post screener. Anyone get a CB interview?

Also never heard back from Metlife post screener. They said they would let me know by the end of January and well...yeah.

Are you knocking on Arkansas? It seems like a great place, lol.

Let's just say I wish we could keep the in-house job requests to elite, non-backwater companies, please. No, $ does not = preftige.

[MKC]

Let's just say I wish we could keep the in-house job requests to elite, non-backwater companies, please. No, $ does not = preftige.

Enjoy your fancy studio apartment at $3k a month.

[Baby_Got_Feuerbach]

Three telephone screeners/interviews coming up within the next couple weeks. Non-traditional law work, i.e., not firms, not corporations (except one, maybe in the loosest sense of the word).

Any advice? I'm good at coming up with questions to ask the interviewers but I don't know what to expect. Who goes first? Will I be grilled on why I want to intern/work for them? I can't imagine this being adversarial. Do I need to come up with some special narrative? Tips for staying calm on the phone? Best to put notes on a WordDoc for my reference? I'm planning on having their resumes pulled up or memorized.

tl;dr: What should I expect from phone screeners and how can I be compelling and get a second round call / interview and ultimately an offer?

[Anonymous User]

How are things going for the 90% of us not getting biglaw firms this summer? Anyone got news about judges, gov, etc going?

[BigZuck]

Three telephone screeners/interviews coming up within the next couple weeks. Non-traditional law work, i.e., not firms, not corporations (except one, maybe in the loosest sense of the word).

Any advice? I'm good at coming up with questions to ask the interviewers but I don't know what to expect. Who goes first? Will I be grilled on why I want to intern/work for them? I can't imagine this being adversarial. Do I need to come up with some special narrative? Tips for staying calm on the phone? Best to put notes on a WordDoc for my reference? I'm planning on having their resumes pulled up or memorized.

tl;dr: What should I expect from phone screeners and how can I be compelling and get a second round call / interview and ultimately an offer?

I pulled up a word doc during phone screeners but that was more a safety blanket than anything, I don't know that I ever used it.

Other than that, just prepare as you would for a normal screener IMO

[Anonymous User]

did you guys actually apply to PH or was it unsolicited?

I applied in mid-January. [anon from lower t14]

I'm just going to call tomorrow and see what's up because I have no fucking shame

[Anonymous User]

did you guys actually apply to PH or was it unsolicited?

I applied in mid-January. [anon from lower t14]

I'm just going to call tomorrow and see what's up because I have no fucking shame

I applied recently, too.

[Anonymous User]

Ding ding ding at Stoel Rives at Seattle and Portland

Email or regular mail?

I'm sure I'm just waiting for a rejection letter now, but I haven't heard anything from them.

e-mail very late at night...10 pm EST?

[Anonymous User]

Ding ding ding at Stoel Rives at Seattle and Portland

How is this firm's name pronounced? I have a screener with them and I don't want to say it wrong.