Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences... Forum

[wanderer]

Words of advice to 0L's and Rising 2L's headed into OCI:
1) Bidding small SA classes in non-major markets is fucking dangerous.
2) TX is sweet.....2 shots at offers.

So true. I just found out our summers aren't getting offers. I'm not sure if they know yet. They were a little odd, but certainly not deserving of a 0/2 offer rate. In NYC they would both get offers, if for no other reason than to help the firm maintain a 100% offer rate.

[Anonymous User]

Words of advice to 0L's and Rising 2L's headed into OCI:
1) Bidding small SA classes in non-major markets is fucking dangerous.
2) TX is sweet.....2 shots at offers.

So true. I just found out our summers aren't getting offers. I'm not sure if they know yet. They were a little odd, but certainly not deserving of a 0/2 offer rate. In NYC they would both get offers, if for no other reason than to help the firm maintain a 100% offer rate.

Oh god. Can't drop this bomb here without telling more. What market, and why?

[wanderer]

What if you're close with a person above you? Is it weird to give something? I feel weird not giving something because I know they spent out of pocket money on me during the summer, and they really helped me out on assignments and whenever I had questions despite not being on the recruiting committee.

Junior associate here. Summer associate I worked with gave me something and a thank you card. I thought it was super sweet but not necessary.

I got one of these. I thought it was beyond awkward. (I did recommend an offer though).

[wanderer]

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[Anonymous User]

How did you get along with the other associates?

I got along really well with the other summer as well as the associates. The few that I reached out to afterwards were pretty surprised that I didn't get an offer, especially since I had done good work for them. Of course, they had no say in the hiring process, so it didn't really matter.

Words of advice to 0L's and Rising 2L's headed into OCI:
1) Bidding small SA classes in non-major markets is fucking dangerous.
2) TX is sweet.....2 shots at offers.

Yeah, I learned #1 the hard way...

[SA2014]

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[Pikappraider]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

I did the same exact thing in my 1L SA. I had a big research memo for a matter in Illinois Appellate Court. Blindly followed Bluebook and cited only to Northeast Reporter instead of Illinois Official Reporters (contrary to Illinois rules). Partner reviewing the memo just told me to go back and change the citations and be more mindful of the local rules (then said that it is something law schools SHOULD teach but don't). Wasn't a big deal. Sounds like you dealt with a psychotic partner.

yeah seriously, I did the same thing but with Florida courts and the partner just told me to change it. I even was a little resistant at first and was like "but I followed blue book" like a moron, and he was cool with it and it was a tiny issue

[Anonymous User]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

I did the same exact thing in my 1L SA. I had a big research memo for a matter in Illinois Appellate Court. Blindly followed Bluebook and cited only to Northeast Reporter instead of Illinois Official Reporters (contrary to Illinois rules). Partner reviewing the memo just told me to go back and change the citations and be more mindful of the local rules (then said that it is something law schools SHOULD teach but don't). Wasn't a big deal. Sounds like you dealt with a psychotic partner.

yeah seriously, I did the same thing but with Florida courts and the partner just told me to change it. I even was a little resistant at first and was like "but I followed blue book" like a moron, and he was cool with it and it was a tiny issue

I'm not trying to be a dick, but why didn't you guys just ask the librarian/word processing people to do citations for you?

[franklyscarlet]

That's not what either of those services are for at my firm.

[Anonymous User]

Got an offer to come back next summer, feeling good since I went in expecting a fairly lukewarm message. Phew.

[jbagelboy]

Third to last day of work. I'm going to miss free food. Thankfully I'm headed back to law school, where there's a shitload more free food; just not as good.

We don't hear about offers until the week after our last day; I wish they would just tell us at our final review.

[PepperJack]

Words of advice to 0L's and Rising 2L's headed into OCI:
1) Bidding small SA classes in non-major markets is fucking dangerous.
2) TX is sweet.....2 shots at offers.

So true. I just found out our summers aren't getting offers. I'm not sure if they know yet. They were a little odd, but certainly not deserving of a 0/2 offer rate. In NYC they would both get offers, if for no other reason than to help the firm maintain a 100% offer rate.

What made them odd?

[Anonymous User]

V50 firm, Major market - Rumor is we are no offing 2 out of ~10

[SA2014]

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[Anonymous User]

Just got a lunch invite from an associate. Also attending the lunch: the parter who will have told me my offer fate basically right before. Had a few hiccups this summer, so this could be one awkward lunch.

[LRGhost]

Just got a lunch invite from an associate. Also attending the lunch: the parter who will have told me my offer fate basically right before. Had a few hiccups this summer, so this could be one awkward lunch.

You'll be fine.

[Anonymous User]

V50 firm, Major market - Rumor is we are no offing 2 out of ~10

Class size of 10 is really small especially if it's a major market.............is it NYC/DC?

My firm is in NYC and our class size is very similar. A lot of firms have between 7-20 SA's.

[Anonymous User]

Wait is killing me. Was told by department head that his initial look over reviews showed that they were all good and he was optimistic there is a spot. He said I would learn very soon after program ended (last Friday). Heard nothing since. Thought I was set because so positive, but getting more nervous as time passes. Firm is 90%+ but my department hasn't had a summer in years.

[Anonymous User]

Someone posted on FB that they were offered at debevoise today. Not sure if this helps anyone.

[jbagelboy]

Someone posted on FB that they were offered at debevoise today. Not sure if this helps anyone.

I don't understand the people that do this

[Anonymous User]

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[txdude45]

Someone posted on FB that they were offered at debevoise today. Not sure if this helps anyone.

I don't understand the people that do this

Because law students are the third most insufferable grad school population. Med school and philosophy students are tied for #1.

[Anonymous User]

Someone posted on FB that they were offered at debevoise today. Not sure if this helps anyone.

I don't understand the people that do this

she's fucking terrible - it's the first i encountered of people doing this - she goes to a ttt too so it's really obnoxious imo

Happy to report that I received an offer to work at Debevoise & Plimpton after law school. Busting my ass all of these years has paid off!

[WokeUpInACar]

I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?

[Anonymous User]

I've never understood how butthurt people get about stuff like that. I mean obviously if someone is constantly posting shit about their firm it's unbearable, but just one time when you get a full time offer? Are you ever allowed to post when something good happens in your legal career? A large part of why FB exists is to share big life events with your friends and family. Does everyone really need to censor themselves completely just because some of their friends might not be as fortunate?

more gems that make me hate her status

A serious question: If I'm up working until 3:30 am tonight, and I have to be up at 6:15 am, is it worth going to sleep? I also need to wake up at 5:00 am the day after that, and I'll be out late that night. Advice?

The good news is that there is absolutely no line at Chipotle. The bad news is that I'm only here because I have to work this weekend. So is the no-line business really a win? Lol

I get to see the German defense minister and Henry Kissinger speaking #iworkatthebestlawfirmever