Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences... Forum

[Anonymous User]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

[Anonymous User]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Mind sharing the market or any more details about the firm, such as whether it is normally 100% offer?

[Anonymous User]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Mind sharing the market or any more details about the firm, such as whether it is normally 100% offer?

this. And sorry that really sucks, hope you land something soon.

[gk101]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Sorry that really sucks, hope you get something soon

[Anonymous User]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Shit, sorry to hear. You're right, though: you're better off getting away from that douche-canoe partner than getting locked in an office with him indefinitely. Take some time and a stiff drink, and get up off the dirt swinging.

[Anonymous User]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Mind sharing the market or any more details about the firm, such as whether it is normally 100% offer?

this. And sorry that really sucks, hope you land something soon.

Big law office in a non-major/smaller market. I was told during OCI that the firm offers 100% of its summers, but once I got there, I found out it wasn't true. At least two summers hadn't gotten offers in the past five years, and given that the firm only hires 1-2 summers a year... yeah, definitely not 100% offer.

[09042014]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

[Anonymous User]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

[09042014]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

They guy is either psycho or you did something else to piss him off. Him telling people that you are anti-social is a tip off there is something else going wrong here.

[Anonymous User]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

They guy is either psycho or you did something else to piss him off. Him telling people that you are anti-social is a tip off there is something else going wrong here.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I talked to a bunch of associates about it, but they didn't know anything. I also tried talking to this partner several times afterwards, trying to get back into his good graces, but he would just ignore me. Like I went to a lunch with him and tried to casually strike up a conversation with him multiple times, and he would just walk away from me and talk to one of the associates. To be honest, I would feel so much better if I just knew what I did to piss him off so bad, but it seems no one knows but him.

[Micdiddy]

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

They guy is either psycho or you did something else to piss him off. Him telling people that you are anti-social is a tip off there is something else going wrong here.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I talked to a bunch of associates about it, but they didn't know anything. I also tried talking to this partner several times afterwards, trying to get back into his good graces, but he would just ignore me. Like I went to a lunch with him and tried to casually strike up a conversation with him multiple times, and he would just walk away from me and talk to one of the associates. To be honest, I would feel so much better if I just knew what I did to piss him off so bad, but it seems no one knows but him.

Ask? I mean, already no-offered, worse he can do is ignore you (and he probably will).

[Anonymous User]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

I did the same exact thing in my 1L SA. I had a big research memo for a matter in Illinois Appellate Court. Blindly followed Bluebook and cited only to Northeast Reporter instead of Illinois Official Reporters (contrary to Illinois rules). Partner reviewing the memo just told me to go back and change the citations and be more mindful of the local rules (then said that it is something law schools SHOULD teach but don't). Wasn't a big deal. Sounds like you dealt with a psychotic partner.

[LRGhost]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

They guy is either psycho or you did something else to piss him off. Him telling people that you are anti-social is a tip off there is something else going wrong here.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I talked to a bunch of associates about it, but they didn't know anything. I also tried talking to this partner several times afterwards, trying to get back into his good graces, but he would just ignore me. Like I went to a lunch with him and tried to casually strike up a conversation with him multiple times, and he would just walk away from me and talk to one of the associates. To be honest, I would feel so much better if I just knew what I did to piss him off so bad, but it seems no one knows but him.

Good luck, buddy. Maybe didn't even do anything. If the summer class is that small, maybe he just took a distaste to you first and, when they realized early on that they overhired, you were out? I'm sorry

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?

I know 3 people in NY who have offers in hand.

Is this true? I am at a non-NY office, but they gave out offers before the end of the summer program there?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?

I know 3 people in NY who have offers in hand.

Is this true? I am at a non-NY office, but they gave out offers before the end of the summer program there?

Prediction: First total silence, then, there's going to be an eruption of NY offers beginning Thursday-Friday......all firms.

[jbagelboy]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Nuke the shit out of them on NALP ect.

[SA2014]

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[rickgrimes69]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

They guy is either psycho or you did something else to piss him off. Him telling people that you are anti-social is a tip off there is something else going wrong here.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I talked to a bunch of associates about it, but they didn't know anything. I also tried talking to this partner several times afterwards, trying to get back into his good graces, but he would just ignore me. Like I went to a lunch with him and tried to casually strike up a conversation with him multiple times, and he would just walk away from me and talk to one of the associates. To be honest, I would feel so much better if I just knew what I did to piss him off so bad, but it seems no one knows but him.

How did you get along with the other associates?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?

I know 3 people in NY who have offers in hand.

Also interested in this, but this can't be right. People have their reviews Wednesday-Friday...

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?

I know 3 people in NY who have offers in hand.

Also interested in this, but this can't be right. People have their reviews Wednesday-Friday...

I stand by what I said: I know of 3 offers that have gone out from Skadden.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?

I know 3 people in NY who have offers in hand.

Also interested in this, but this can't be right. People have their reviews Wednesday-Friday...

I stand by what I said: I know of 3 offers that have gone out from Skadden.

If by 3 "offers" you mean recruiting or a partner telling them "you'll get an offer" then probably 100 offers have gone out.

[Anonymous User]

I stand by what I said: I know of 3 offers that have gone out from Skadden.

If by 3 "offers" you mean recruiting or a partner telling them "you'll get an offer" then probably 100 offers have gone out.[/quote]

Also could be that those people ended early/are splitting

[Anonymous User]

I stand by what I said: I know of 3 offers that have gone out from Skadden.

If by 3 "offers" you mean recruiting or a partner telling them "you'll get an offer" then probably 100 offers have gone out.

Also could be that those people ended early/are splitting

By "offers" I mean have actually received official offers. They did split, but the offers were over the past couple days.

[Neal Patrick Harris]

What kind of errors? Did you make it seem like you didn't care about the errors when it happened. Or is this guy just pyscho.

Minor citation errors, like citing to the Pacific Reporter instead of California Appellate Reporter (because I was blindly following the Bluebook...). I was told that this partner's biggest pet peeve is citation errors, but I didn't know pet peeve = no offer. I fixed the errors in less than 10 minutes and sent it back to the partner; he just said thanks and that was it.

Also, I know for a fact that the other summer turned in his first assignment to this partner late, but he was okay with that. Just not okay with my citations...

They guy is either psycho or you did something else to piss him off. Him telling people that you are anti-social is a tip off there is something else going wrong here.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I talked to a bunch of associates about it, but they didn't know anything. I also tried talking to this partner several times afterwards, trying to get back into his good graces, but he would just ignore me. Like I went to a lunch with him and tried to casually strike up a conversation with him multiple times, and he would just walk away from me and talk to one of the associates. To be honest, I would feel so much better if I just knew what I did to piss him off so bad, but it seems no one knows but him.

Really sorry to hear this, man. Best of luck going forward. Feel free to share anxieties here or via pm. Happy to lend an ear.

[Charger]

Just got no-offered by my firm... reason given was "work product." Based on conversations I had throughout the summer with my mentor associate, I know the real reason was that I got on the bad side of an influential partner and he made sure I didn't get hired. I only wish I knew what put me on his bad side. I did an assignment for him my second week where I made some (imo very minor) errors, but he seemed to take offense to them. After that, the guy just started avoiding me in the office and acted like I didn't exist when we were part of the same group conversations. He then felt the need to call me anti-social when asked about me before the mid-summer review... In the end, I guess I'm better off not working with a partner that despises me. Time to start working on job applications...

Sorry to hear. Hope you land on your feet soon.

*cue nailbiting* What a stressful week.