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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:10 pm

I'm seriously tempted to start a new thread to recount my story of what happened. It's probably not ATL-worthy only because it didn't happen at a bigger firm. The only downside is that if the employer was reading it that'd instantly out me. It's not so much the argument that was noteworthy but what the argument was about...

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Old Gregg » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm seriously tempted to start a new thread to recount my story of what happened. It's probably not ATL-worthy only because it didn't happen at a bigger firm. The only downside is that if the employer was reading it that'd instantly out me. It's not so much the argument that was noteworthy but what the argument was about...
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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Old Gregg » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:12 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: Got into an argument with a partner. Don't know what happened. I just snapped after ten weeks of acting professional.
You should seriously consider finding another career (or at least a career in the law that does not entail working at a firm). If you snapped after a 10-week long recruiting party, just imagine what will happen when you're an actual associate.
The vast majority of people in law shouldn't even be in law (i.e., people who hate what they do, around 75% of lawyers), so I'm sure we can let this one slide.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by rpupkin » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:21 pm

zweitbester wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: Got into an argument with a partner. Don't know what happened. I just snapped after ten weeks of acting professional.
You should seriously consider finding another career (or at least a career in the law that does not entail working at a firm). If you snapped after a 10-week long recruiting party, just imagine what will happen when you're an actual associate.
The vast majority of people in law shouldn't even be in law (i.e., people who hate what they do, around 75% of lawyers), so I'm sure we can let this one slide.
Fair point.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm seriously tempted to start a new thread to recount my story of what happened. It's probably not ATL-worthy only because it didn't happen at a bigger firm. The only downside is that if the employer was reading it that'd instantly out me. It's not so much the argument that was noteworthy but what the argument was about...
OP again. To add to the above: in fact, I'm pretty sure if I were fired as a permanent employee for doing what I did, it would make for a great employment law case. Not in the I'm-super-litigious sense, but in the there-is-no-case-law-in-my-circuit sense.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Mal Reynolds » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:28 pm

Say what happened or shut up.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by M458 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:32 pm

Regulus wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:I'm seriously tempted to start a new thread to recount my story of what happened. It's probably not ATL-worthy only because it didn't happen at a bigger firm. The only downside is that if the employer was reading it that'd instantly out me. It's not so much the argument that was noteworthy but what the argument was about...
OP again. To add to the above: in fact, I'm pretty sure if I were fired as a permanent employee for doing what I did, it would make for a great employment law case. Not in the I'm-super-litigious sense, but in the there-is-no-case-law-in-my-circuit sense.
Oh come on... you have to at least give some details. It is no fun for everyone if you say that you have this crazy thing inside a box but refuse to let us see the contents of the box. At least tell us the topic of the conversation or something. :P
The masses want to hear your story. Regale us with tales of your rebellion.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Nammertat » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 pm

M458 wrote:
Regulus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm seriously tempted to start a new thread to recount my story of what happened. It's probably not ATL-worthy only because it didn't happen at a bigger firm. The only downside is that if the employer was reading it that'd instantly out me. It's not so much the argument that was noteworthy but what the argument was about...
OP again. To add to the above: in fact, I'm pretty sure if I were fired as a permanent employee for doing what I did, it would make for a great employment law case. Not in the I'm-super-litigious sense, but in the there-is-no-case-law-in-my-circuit sense.
Oh come on... you have to at least give some details. It is no fun for everyone if you say that you have this crazy thing inside a box but refuse to let us see the contents of the box. At least tell us the topic of the conversation or something. :P
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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Old Gregg » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 pm

Petition to ban OP for blue balling us.

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zweitbester wrote:Petition to ban OP for blue balling us.
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Post by beepboopbeep » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:48 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Say what happened or shut up.

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Mal Reynolds wrote:Say what happened or shut up.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by goldeneye » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:49 pm

Posted this elsewhere but also relevant here.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=233775

It's no longer til Nov 1 but Oct 1 to accept.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by scholarlyprance » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:00 pm

zweitbester wrote:Petition to ban OP for blue balling us.
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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by LRGhost » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
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El Pollito wrote:Maybe his fake assignments were like really hard man.
Or you just get fed up with the false decorum.
Lol I smell a k-jd
No, not really. I can just understand being short with the passive aggressive behavior that some people exhibit. It's also extremely easy to not give a fuck if you have an offer locked down already.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Mal Reynolds » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:12 pm

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Mal Reynolds wrote:
LRGhost wrote:
El Pollito wrote:Maybe his fake assignments were like really hard man.
Or you just get fed up with the false decorum.
Lol I smell a k-jd
No, not really. I can just understand being short with the passive aggressive behavior that some people exhibit. It's also extremely easy to not give a fuck if you have an offer locked down already.
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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:29 pm

Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know the skadden post SA offer timeline?
I know 3 people in NY who have offers in hand.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by franklyscarlet » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:53 pm

goldeneye wrote:Posted this elsewhere but also relevant here.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=233775

It's no longer til Nov 1 but Oct 1 to accept.

Good to know, though if I get an offer I'm leaping on it and bear hugging it for the next year so no one can take it from me. No waiting required.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by LRGhost » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:26 pm

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Mal Reynolds » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:30 pm

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Yeah keeping your mouth shut when you know what's good for you is a terrible life skill to have.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by LRGhost » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:34 pm

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Mal Reynolds wrote:K-JD
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Yeah keeping your mouth shut when you know what's good for you is a terrible life skill to have.
Yeah, being something other than a pushover when you have a different offer in hand is obviously a life skill.

If you don't have a job lined up or you care about your future at your firm, don't get into an argument with a partner. But even then, let's not pretend that it's not a passive aggressive job where your job is to swallow a lot of cock and be grateful that it's not too girthy. Being pliable and submissive isn't a life skill. It's an unfortunate requirement.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by gk101 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:06 pm

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Mal Reynolds wrote:
LRGhost wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:K-JD
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Yeah keeping your mouth shut when you know what's good for you is a terrible life skill to have.
Yeah, being something other than a pushover when you have a different offer in hand is obviously a life skill.

If you don't have a job lined up or you care about your future at your firm, don't get into an argument with a partner. But even then, let's not pretend that it's not a passive aggressive job where your job is to swallow a lot of cock and be grateful that it's not too girthy. Being pliable and submissive isn't a life skill. It's an unfortunate requirement.
I don't know which market the dude is in but the legal market in most cities is fairly small. We don't know the extent of arguing with the partner here or the reasons for it, but having another offer is not a good reason to forget how to behave in a work place.

He was working for 10 weeks as a SA (presumably for a much shorter period of time at the second firm since he split the summer). Barring absurd circumstances, I would suggest shutting up and bending the fuck over instead of snapping because you are tired of acting professional (again for only 10 fucking weeks as a SA where you are basically a waste of space).

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by LRGhost » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:10 pm

I'm not saying it's not dumb but the dude seems fairly nonchalant about it. If he doesn't care, berating him like he doesn't know he committed a faux pas is dumb as shit. Obviously it's bad to yell at your boss. I doubt an SA who does that cares. I want my job. If I had multiple offers or a well off family or a career I could go back to before this, I'd probably be more likely to say "fuck it" fairly quick. Maybe not during an SA but are we really going to chastise the dude for something he doesn't care that much about? He should be ostracized for not sharing the story.

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