Reminder: Stop Reading Tea Leaves; Start Mass Mailing Forum

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

3.65+LR at CNN. 8 cbs. 0 offer. MMed 100+ in NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC. Weeping day and night.

MM 200. Do more. Apply more.

[Anonymous User]

3.65+LR at CNN. 8 cbs. 0 offer. MMed 100+ in NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC. Weeping day and night.

Similar boat minus law review and 8 cbs. Keep mailing and hope for the best!

[Anonymous User]

Some words of encouragement. I also had a disappointing OCI / early part of the process and ended up with 3 more CBs and a higher vault NYC offer through recent MM. Do not give up and do not listen to anyone who says things are fruitless. There are definitely still spots available, especially as people sitting on 5 offers cut down. Keep following up and something will come through.

[Anonymous User]

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[whm0829]

Mass Mailing really does work! I'm at a lower T14 with median grades and LR, and have gotten 2 CBs(1 V100, 1 V50) and 2 screeners(1 V30, 1 NLJ 250) from about 75 mailings. Every email I sent was to the recruiting contact NALP had, and my format was cover letter(barely individualized) as the email text with resume and transcript attached as PDFs.

If people want to see my cover letter for ideas, post non-anon below and ask for it so I can Pm you.

I would like to see it as well

[Anonymous User]

Friday night at 10:33 pm and all I can think about is the offers I don't have as I compile more and more firms to mail.

[Anonymous User]

Yeah I'm feeling pretty fucked.

[bsktbll28082]

MM'd a bunch of firms for SAs last year, no luck. Time to start up again. Hopefully spots are opening up for full-time offers like previous posters mentioned.

[Anonymous User]

MM'd a bunch of firms for SAs last year, no luck. Time to start up again. Hopefully spots are opening up for full-time offers like previous posters mentioned.

Sorry, are you just starting MM'ing now?
That might be your problem right there. You're waiting until near the end of the hiring process to start sending out apps? You're in trouble, mate.

[Kratos]

MM'd a bunch of firms for SAs last year, no luck. Time to start up again. Hopefully spots are opening up for full-time offers like previous posters mentioned.

Sorry, are you just starting MM'ing now?
That might be your problem right there. You're waiting until near the end of the hiring process to start sending out apps? You're in trouble, mate.

i agree with your overall sentiment, but why anon?

[Mactx]

End of hiring process? Why is it the end of the hiring process if half the country hasn't released bar results?

[Anonymous User]

any point in still emailing NY v50 firms or are the classes pretty much set at this point?

[Winter is Coming]

Guys c'mon. One of the best posts about mass mailing on TLS is really filled with a bunch of questions about "should I still mass mail?"

Yes, its really late in the process and you should have been mass mailing weeks ago.

Yes, you should still do it.

Also to clarify this thread is largely directed at market paying SAs at big firms (generally for summer going into 3L year). Other job hiring timelines are different. It's nuts to see people with join dates of almost five years ago posting such odd stuff.

[Anonymous User]

If you are looking for patent lit, mass mail Paul Hastings DC right now and I'm pretty damn sure you'll get a CB if your tech background passes a smell test. My friend there said they had a tough time converting offers to acceptances.

So yes, V50's are still hiring. But its getting late, mass mail yesterday.

[Anonymous User]

Also w/ regard to Paul Hastings, I was informed from a learnleo email that they are still looking for:

Orange County - Corporate
San Diego - Transactional
Los Angeles - Transactional
Houston - Litigation
Chicago - Corporate

[Anonymous User]

How's the mailing?

[Anonymous User]

How's the mailing?

Lots of mailing, not lots of success. I am getting a lot of "while your credentials are impressive, we don't want you here at Sweat Shop LLP" or something to that effect

[Anonymous User]

If you are looking for patent lit, mass mail Paul Hastings DC right now and I'm pretty damn sure you'll get a CB if your tech background passes a smell test. My friend there said they had a tough time converting offers to acceptances.

So yes, V50's are still hiring. But its getting late, mass mail yesterday.

Had CB with them a week ago, got the rejection yesterday, which took me a little by surprise.

[ymmv]

Consensus is no thank-you emails after callbacks, right? Or is it definite? Or does it depend?

I interviewed with one firm I MM'd, and I really like the firm, but I can't say I had an "exceptional" interaction with any of them. They're a D.C. office, if it makes any difference.

If by "consensus" you mean "fifty pages of rabid disagreement," sure.
But no, I never sent any.

[Anonymous User]

Struck out at OCI. Are there any secondary markets that move a little big more slow that I should target to MM?

[Anonymous User]

And the coveted Dingy Award goes to Andrews Kurth for the most polite and least superficial ding I've gotten all summer.

[MCFC]

Struck out at OCI. Are there any secondary markets that move a little big more slow that I should target to MM?

Think NY is still your best bet, even at this lateish stage. But I wouldn't discriminate.

[Anonymous User]

Before I ask my question, I have been mailing religiously so I don't need the you should be mailing routine. I have a logistical question about how a waitlist operates. For candidates on post CB, pre-offer waitlists, do firms generally deny people off the waitlist at each hiring committee meeting, while they are waiting to hear from those who have offers, or is the decision of which waitlisted candidates will receive offers one that will be made after they have heard from all of their outstanding offers?

[Kratos]

Before I ask my question, I have been mailing religiously so I don't need the you should be mailing routine. I have a logistical question about how a waitlist operates. For candidates on post CB, pre-offer waitlists, do firms generally deny people off the waitlist at each hiring committee meeting, while they are waiting to hear from those who have offers, or is the decision of which waitlisted candidates will receive offers one that will be made after they have heard from all of their outstanding offers?

this sure sounds like you're trying to read tea leaves...

probably depends and doubt you're gonna get a definitive answer since there don't appear to be too many hiring committee members posting around her