NYC to 200k Forum

[Anonymous User]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

Proskauer just had a mass exodus of attorneys in Boston (to Kirkland). They’re reaching for bottom dwellers now from some of the very regional firms.

No one at ropes or Goodwin is going to leave when they sure as hell know that their firms will match market.

[Anonymous User]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

Proskauer just had a mass exodus of attorneys in Boston (to Kirkland). They’re reaching for bottom dwellers now from some of the very regional firms.

No one at ropes or Goodwin is going to leave when they sure as hell know that their firms will match market.

Intentional WilmerHale avoidance? Sounds like a Goodwin lackey trying to play with the big boys.

[Anonymous User]

I’ve had about enough of the bullying from folks like yourself. Please enjoy your website and stop harassing us

Nobody cares whether you post there or not, some people are just seizing the opportunity to get the word out for those who do want to post on an active forum since TLS died.

Harrison Barnes finally removed the requirement that all posts be pre-approved by mods, although his auto word filters are still in place.

If mentions of another website really stress you out, I'm sure once the mods look at this thread again

Given the relative levels of activity between the forums (esp. outside the lounge), if tls is dead I'm not sure what the new forum is.

Alright then enjoy TLS, nobody is forcing you to post anywhere, just letting people who may care know that many users have migrated to a new forum.

[Anonymous User]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

Proskauer just had a mass exodus of attorneys in Boston (to Kirkland). They’re reaching for bottom dwellers now from some of the very regional firms.

No one at ropes or Goodwin is going to leave when they sure as hell know that their firms will match market.

Intentional WilmerHale avoidance? Sounds like a Goodwin lackey trying to play with the big boys.

Ropes/Goodwin is the Yale/Columbia of Boston

[Anonymous User]

We don't care. That forum blows. This is a thread for salary discussion. If you're looking for an alternative to tls go to xoxohth

[Anonymous User]

Ropes/Goodwin is the Yale/Columbia of Boston

I thought Harvard was the Columbia of Boston? Columbia always sells 0Ls like it's the same school...

[Anonymous User]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations associates at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

FTFY. Good try at a dis tho.

thanks debevoise

[Cobretti]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

Proskauer just had a mass exodus of attorneys in Boston (to Kirkland). They’re reaching for bottom dwellers now from some of the very regional firms.

No one at ropes or Goodwin is going to leave when they sure as hell know that their firms will match market.

Intentional WilmerHale avoidance? Sounds like a Goodwin lackey trying to play with the big boys.

Ropes/Goodwin is the Yale/Columbia of Boston

Oh wow, I didn't realize Goodwin had overtaken Ropes in Boston prestige.

[Anonymous User]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

Proskauer just had a mass exodus of attorneys in Boston (to Kirkland). They’re reaching for bottom dwellers now from some of the very regional firms.

No one at ropes or Goodwin is going to leave when they sure as hell know that their firms will match market.

Isn't Quinn already grabbing big names from Ropes in Boston?

[Anonymous User]

Will there be a movement today re salary raises? What do you guys think? Which firm will make an announcement first?

[Anonymous User]

Noting the distinct lack of Boston defenders in this east-west-bodega-WF debate. They're probably all busy lateraling to Proskauer Boston, which, TBH, is really like the DPW of Boston.

Where do associations at Proskauer Boston(aka DPW of Boston) take summers for lunch? Dunkin’ Donuts?

Proskauer just had a mass exodus of attorneys in Boston (to Kirkland). They’re reaching for bottom dwellers now from some of the very regional firms.

No one at ropes or Goodwin is going to leave when they sure as hell know that their firms will match market.

Isn't Quinn already grabbing big names from Ropes in Boston?

Quinn > Proskauer

[minnbills]

Will there be a movement today re salary raises? What do you guys think? Which firm will make an announcement first?

I suspect we will see a match or two, but it seems clear that most of the pack is waiting for Cravath to weigh in

edit: and that won't happen until after the monday partner meeting probs

[Anonymous User]

Quinn > Proskauer

Huh, I never knew that! Thanks for this valuable information.

[Anonymous User]

White & Case to 200k

[Anonymous User]

There are STB Houston first-years making $190,000 per year with a $5,000 summer surprise. They pay $1,000-2,000 (if luxe) in rent.

Cravath, Skadden, other eliTTTe firm associates: $180,000 per year, $90,000 after taxes. $2,000-3,500 in rent (for walk-up). <<<No bonus.>>>

They're not really "making $190,000 per year with a $5,000 summer surprise." The "surprise" is to get them to $190k on the year; otherwise they'd be making $185. Taxes leave you with about 60% takehome in NYC, so $90k is vastly inaccurate. You can do a lot nicer than a "walk-up" (assuming you meant that literally and also were implying a crappy place) for $3,500 in NYC—do some really quick research and you'll see. Obviously Texans pay less tax and rent, but your misstatement of the situation is borderline ridiculous.

Not to mention rent can be more bit pricey than that. Not anywhere close to NYC, but I pay $2500 a month (for a 3 br townhome : ) ) and there are much more expensive options out there. Texas doesn't even come close to NYC but people tend to kneejerk on here "omg Texas is the cheapest place in the world." Desirable neighborhoods in Dallas/Houston/Austin can cost plenty and I wouldn't call it very far off from Chicago having lived in both. No state/city income tax is pretty sweet though.

Im in Chicago. Would kill myself if paying 2500 for rent. Income tax here is 5% tho so gotta add that.

This is not that hard. We pay $2495 total for 3 bed, 2.5 bath ~1700 square feet in a two-story Coach House which includes two garage spots. The issue is a lot of associates aren’t willing to live anything besides walking distance from the loop and so end up in pricier areas like Gold Coast, River North, South Loop or West Loop. I’m in Lakeview and it’s a thirty minute commute riding the L. Obviously take what’s important to you but if you’re willing to commute a little you can find really great bang for your buck by going north.

[Anonymous User]

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/06/jones-d ... eone-over/

Is this article for real? Jones Day isn't raising salaries for the current class of first years?

[Anonymous User]

White & Case to 200k

Memo pic or it didn't happen

[Pulsar]

Even the Chicago Loop isn't $2500 most places. And it's an easier re estate market so many associates buy after not too long anyway

[Anonymous User]

Non-anonymous, second-hand rumors on the other site that DPW is seriously discussing a raise to $200k. Unclear whether due to TLS mocking or savings from visionary hall-monitor system.

[Anonymous User]

Even the Chicago Loop isn't $2500 most places. And it's an easier re estate market so many associates buy after not too long anyway

Only a penis would want to live in the loop anyway

[Anonymous User]

White & Case to 200k

Memo pic or it didn't happen

Can we get more on this, please.

[Anonymous User]

Non-anonymous, second-hand rumors on the other site that DPW is seriously discussing a raise to $200k. Unclear whether due to TLS mocking or savings from visionary hall-monitor system.

I hope the rumors are true. If they are, I will forgive DPW's wrongdoing, and I will never again remember their sins.

[Anonymous User]

Texas is cheap because it sucks. Chicago is cheap because it's cold. Denver and Seattle are cheaper because until recently they were barely real cities. SF/DC/NYC/LA are expensive because they're good in one way or another.

Everyone should just own that.

No. This is not why.

NY is overpriced because that was the random spot the slave market operated in the late 17th century and then that gradually morphed into where trading securities developed and now you got what we consider Wall Street and the Financial Center of the world.

DC is overpriced because that swampy area is where the nations capital was established as a compromise for the Virginia political power base (idk at least according to Hamilton that was why they picked it so I’ll take their word for it).

San Francisco is overpriced because of really dumb and shitty zoning laws and lots of short term selfish thinking leading to a shortage in housing particularly as the tech boom occurred which could have easily been fixed by building more high rises.

LA is similarly choked out by regulations. It is the capital of the entertainment industry where top end salaries are incredibly high. It at least has great weather going for it as a positive draw (also why it is the entertainment capital to begin with) pushing demand up.

DC and San Francisco are objectively shitty places with shit weather. They are not expensive because they are good and people want to live there for their inherent awesomeness.

[toast and bananas]

White & Case to 200k

Memo pic or it didn't happen

Can we get more on this, please.

Can we out people just trolling with fake updates?

[Anonymous User]

Texas is cheap because it sucks. Chicago is cheap because it's cold. Denver and Seattle are cheaper because until recently they were barely real cities. SF/DC/NYC/LA are expensive because they're good in one way or another.

Everyone should just own that.

No. This is not why.

NY is overpriced because that was the random spot the slave market operated in the late 17th century and then that gradually morphed into where trading securities developed and now you got what we consider Wall Street and the Financial Center of the world.

DC is overpriced because that swampy area is where the nations capital was established as a compromise for the Virginia political power base (idk at least according to Hamilton that was why they picked it so I’ll take their word for it).

San Francisco is overpriced because of really dumb and shitty zoning laws and lots of short term selfish thinking leading to a shortage in housing particularly as the tech boom occurred which could have easily been fixed by building more high rises.

LA is similarly choked out by regulations. It is the capital of the entertainment industry where top end salaries are incredibly high. It at least has great weather going for it as a positive draw (also why it is the entertainment capital to begin with) pushing demand up.

DC and San Francisco are objectively shitty places with shit weather. They are not expensive because they are good and people want to live there for their inherent awesomeness.

We found the butt hurt texan...