Summer Associate Class of 2016 Forum

[SplitMyPants]

What's the justification for spending $150 more for park over fifth? Honestly asking, I just wear Vans and Nikes

There isn't one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... c&LH_BIN=1

Seriously though, it is slightly more versatile, but only insofar as I would not wear fifth aves to interview. Otherwise, they are interchangeable.

OP, does it really matter in Milwaukee?

In Milwaukee, the entire shoe brand discussion applies, but to boots. Even in the summer (better safe than sorry).

No AE winter line, no offer.

[Anonymous User]

AE's are nice shoes, sure. But definitely NOT necessary for SA. Or even first few years as an associate. My Cole Haans got me through fine this summer and are still in fine shape to last a while when I begin working at the firm this summer. And, IIRC, none of the guys in my SA class had AE's.

Outed as living in a fly-over secondary

But seriously, I would hope that no one actually thinks they need AE's to get offered...

I know you were just kidding about the fly-over secondary...but for the record, it was a top firm in Chicago. Maybe things are a little more "chill" there than NY.

[barkschool]

AE's are nice shoes, sure. But definitely NOT necessary for SA. Or even first few years as an associate. My Cole Haans got me through fine this summer and are still in fine shape to last a while when I begin working at the firm this summer. And, IIRC, none of the guys in my SA class had AE's.

Outed as living in a fly-over secondary

But seriously, I would hope that no one actually thinks they need AE's to get offered...

I know you were just kidding about the fly-over secondary...but for the record, it was a top firm in Chicago. Maybe things are a little more "chill" there than NY.

Can't get beef drippings on cap toe that's why

[Serett]

Even NYT is getting in on this topic's wise, timely choices.

[BigZuck]

If you stick with black or darker brown, you can get away with a bit more brogue—at least in more formal markets like ny. In texas or atlanta, just wear whatever goes well with your seersucker suit.

(it was Houston though).

All 5 of them were wearing walnut Strands.

Previous point proven.

You got me there, I have no response to this. Best I can say is that I only just recently invested in my first linen suit, so luckily it wasn't a prerequisite during my SA.

Can we talk suit brands? Is everybody sticking with Brooks Brothers/Suit Supply/J Crew level suits or is anybody really blowing their SA money on 1-3k suits? (custom suit, designer brand, etc.)

The only suit you'll wear is the one you wear on the first day when you show up in a suit despite repeatedly being told that the office is business casual because you're afraid it's a trap and no suit first day=no offer. It's the same reason you'll buy Park Aves.

AE's are nice shoes, sure. But definitely NOT necessary for SA. Or even first few years as an associate. My Cole Haans got me through fine this summer and are still in fine shape to last a while when I begin working at the firm this summer. And, IIRC, none of the guys in my SA class had AE's.

Outed as living in a fly-over secondary

But seriously, I would hope that no one actually thinks they need AE's to get offered...

I have a story for you two CRAVEN ANON COWARDS. This is the story: I was a SA in a flyover secondary market this past summer. Don't want to say the market because I'm not anon (it was Houston though). One day I was walking to lunch with 3 other male SAs and 2 associates. All 5 of them were wearing walnut Strands. I was the only one in the group not wearing walnut Strands! I don't want to say what I was wearing because I'm not anon (they were chili Carlyles though).

That is a 100% true story. No AEs=no offer is a saying for a reason. Because it's true (not really though).

I imagine it took some real courage to post this, so thank you for sharing. I don't know if I've heard of a more cringeworthy walk of shame story.

I got some no-name shoes at Nordstrom Rack that look pretty dope, one day I wore them and a first year said "Dude, those are pretty sweet, are they AE's?" I thought that was #winning myself

Real talk though: I don't even own Park Aves or Strands (just a Carlyle and a McAllister) and I somehow managed to snag an offer

[Rahviveh]

Don't buy a suit unless you work at cravath

[PeanutsNJam]

Don't buy a suit unless you work at cravath

I actually figured biz casual was a sign of prestige (too good for suits). Like Munger Tolles/WLRK/W&C are all business casual.

I'm well aware suits/shoes have no bearing on whether you get an offer or not, but I actually like suits and nice shoes.

[barkschool]

Is the tie bar only for waiters, and hotel staff?

[Rule104(a)]

At what point is it non-douchey to add your SA to your LinkedIn profile?

When you're an SA.

+1

[2014]

The level of overthinking on the shoes is out of control, the broguing on the fifth aves won't cause anyone to bat an eye.

[BmoreOrLess]

The level of overthinking on the shoes is out of control, the broguing on the fifth aves won't cause anyone to bat an eye.

Bro, we're just getting started with over thinking every single detail of our summer.

[Serett]

The level of overthinking on the shoes is out of control, the broguing on the fifth aves won't cause anyone to bat an eye.

Don't listen to this guy, he doesn't even have FEET!

[cannibal ox]

Don't buy a suit unless you work at cravath

I actually figured biz casual was a sign of prestige (too good for suits). Like Munger Tolles/WLRK/W&C are all business casual.

Egregious Quinn trolling.

[SplitMyPants]

The level of overthinking on the shoes is out of control, the broguing on the fifth aves won't cause anyone to bat an eye.

Bro, we're just getting started with over thinking every single detail of our summer.

I'm really worried partners will notice my AE cap toes are actually bloor streets and not park aves. You can really tell they were built on the 201 last instead of the 65 last.

no offer? plz hlp

[Yea All Right]

Checking in

Summer draws closer

[Vexed]

Having worked real jobs before, i'm kinda looking at it the same way as you. The money is definitely going to be fucking sweet tho. My plan is to save as much as I can and blow it during 3L, the last year I'll have minimal responsibilities for a while.

Edit: accidental anon. This is bmore.

Yeah I guess that's the way I'm looking at it too. I think my "meh"-ness about it all mostly just stems from the fact that I think school is an obnoxiously easy gig.

[BigZuck]

I think my "meh"-ness about it all mostly just stems from the fact that I think school is an obnoxiously easy gig.

Being a SA is like that, except you get paid money instead of paying money

[jbagelboy]

Don't buy a suit unless you work at cravath

I actually figured biz casual was a sign of prestige (too good for suits). Like Munger Tolles/WLRK/W&C are all business casual.

I'm well aware suits/shoes have no bearing on whether you get an offer or not, but I actually like suits and nice shoes.

Everyone needs to at least own one suit, since even if you work at a business casual firm like the above you're still expected to have a jacket and tie in the office just in case.

Also, if you're at a new york firm, bring a jacket to work because you might be going to a jacket-required restaurant, and you don't want to be the kid wearing the loaner.

[Anonymous User]

Being in a "summer class" that has pre-empt no-offer warning and a school that does not care for 2L's life, is a soft and graduate killself move.

[WeeBey]

Park Aves are well built, but I find them fucking ugly. Just get something with real leather and with leather soles and you'll be okay. Don't forget shoe trees and polish either. Oxfords are more formal then bluchers but a dark, cap toe bluchers will still fit perfectly in.

[SplitMyPants]

Park Aves are well built, but I find them fucking ugly. Just get something with real leather and with leather soles and you'll be okay. Don't forget shoe trees and polish either. Oxfords are more formal then bluchers but a dark, cap toe bluchers will still fit perfectly in.

As in you don't like cap toe oxfords generally? Or as in there's something particularly off-putting to you specifically about the park ave last?

[WeeBey]

Park Aves are well built, but I find them fucking ugly. Just get something with real leather and with leather soles and you'll be okay. Don't forget shoe trees and polish either. Oxfords are more formal then bluchers but a dark, cap toe bluchers will still fit perfectly in.

As in you don't like cap toe oxfords generally? Or as in there's something particularly off-putting to you specifically about the park ave last?

Nothing against cap toe oxfords, its just the AE park ave last isnt my thing. I feel like its too clunky or bulbous for a lack of a better word. Specific brands dont matter, just get something that you feel looks good (but no matter what no square toes) and is of decent quality (i.e. calf leather (not the corrected bs), leather soles)

[Anonymous User]

THIS POST IS SO UNBELIEVABLY FRATHOUSE AND WASP

[barkschool]

Current count leaves Mil—t8—waukee with 4 v. ATTTTlanta with 2

[runthetrap1990]

Checking in

Summer draws closer

Just out here tryna survive 2L