LA OCI 2015 Forum

[Anonymous User]

has anyone heard of anymore recent Sidley offers? (i.e. callback was at the reception two weeks ago or sometime last week)

[Anonymous User]

Can we get an offers list going too?

OP anon, updated original post with an offers list. If anyone else knows of confirmed offers post em, and I'll update!

This is awesome. Here, I alphabetized them. Asterisks next to my additions - callbacks, dings, and offers I've either had or heard of.

Callbacks:

Akin Gump
Alston & Bird
Baker Hostetler
Best Best & Krieger
Bryan Cave
Cooley
Cox Castle
Dykema
Foley
Fox Rothschild
Gibson Dunn
Goodwin Procter*
Irell
Jeffer Mangels
K&L Gates
Katten*
Latham
Manatt*
McDermott*
Milbank*
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fulbright*
OMM
Paul Hastings
Perkins Coie*
Pillsbury
Proskauer Rose*
Rutan & Tucker
Sheppard Mullin
Skadden*
Sidley
Snell & Wilmer
Troutman Sanders
Venable
White & Case
Wilson Sonsini*
Winston Strawn*


Dings:

Akin Gump
Alston & Bird
Bryan Cave*
Crowell & Moring
Gibson
Goodwin Procter*
Greenberg Traurig*
Irell
K&E
Latham
Manatt*
Munger*
OMM
Paul Hastings
Perkins Coie
Proskauer Rose*
Rutan & Tucker
Sheppard Mullin*
Sidley*
Skadden
White & Case
Wilson Sonsini*
Winston Strawn


Offers:

Irell
Sidley
Skadden*
Winston

OP anon here, you the real MVP!!

Updated first page post with this alphabetized list, and added some more from the above postings.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone received an offer from Hogan (LA) yet?

[Anonymous User]

More offers I know of:

Gibson Dunn
OMM
Munger

[Anonymous User]

Ding from K&L Gates OC Office today.

Any news from Reed Smith (LA) and Sheppard Mullin (CC/LA/OC)? I noticed that the updated list have Sheppard Mullin under CBs and dings. If you got either one, mind sharing when did you get the CB/ding and for which office?

Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

K&E offer today

CB Date?

[instride91]

Figured I would add my own knowledge. The ones I added are in bold.

Can we get an offers list going too?

OP anon, updated original post with an offers list. If anyone else knows of confirmed offers post em, and I'll update!

This is awesome. Here, I alphabetized them. Asterisks next to my additions - callbacks, dings, and offers I've either had or heard of.

Callbacks:

Akin Gump
Alston & Bird
Baker Hostetler
Best Best & Krieger
Bryan Cave
Cooley
Cox Castle
Dykema
Foley
Fox Rothschild
Gibson Dunn
Goodwin Procter*
Irell
Jeffer Mangels
K&L Gates
Katten*
Latham
Manatt*
McDermott*
Milbank*
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fulbright*
OMM
Paul Hastings
Perkins Coie*
Pillsbury
Proskauer Rose*
Rutan & Tucker
Sheppard Mullin
Skadden*
Sidley
Simpson Thacher
Sullivan & Cromwell
Snell & Wilmer
Troutman Sanders
Venable
White & Case
WilmerHale
Wilson Sonsini*
Winston Strawn*


Dings:

Akin Gump
Alston & Bird
Bryan Cave*
Crowell & Moring
Gibson
Goodwin Procter*
Greenberg Traurig*
Irell
K&E
Latham
Manatt*
Munger*
OMM
Paul Hastings
Perkins Coie
Proskauer Rose*
Rutan & Tucker
Sheppard Mullin*
Sidley*
Skadden
White & Case
Wilson Sonsini*
Winston Strawn


Offers:

Irell
Morgan Lewis
Sidley
Skadden*
Sullivan & Cromwell
Winston

OP anon here, you the real MVP!!

Updated first page post with this alphabetized list, and added some more from the above postings.

[Anonymous User]

Skadden email ding, no CB

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear anything from Greenberg Traurig?

[Anonymous User]

OMM, Sidley, Paul Hastings, MoFo. Not entirely sure what I want to do, but I'm leaning corporate. Is there an obvious selection among this group? Any feedback will be appreciated

[Anonymous User]

If corp is the only info we have to go off of, then no, there's not a real obvious leader. There's just too many other factors that go into it. I will say that if you're committed to LA, OMM is the only one of that bunch that is truly LA based.

[Anonymous User]

If corp is the only info we have to go off of, then no, there's not a real obvious leader. There's just too many other factors that go into it. I will say that if you're committed to LA, OMM is the only one of that bunch that is truly LA based.

What is the advantage of a firm being LA based? Also, should I be cautious of OMM given some of the challenges it's faced recently?

If anyone else has any feedback, I'd really love to hear it. Do any of these firms provide better exit options than the others?

[Anonymous User]

Chiefly, I'd say that within LA, OMM carries a small advantage in terms of prestige compared to the rest of that group. Sidley appears to be growing but is still kind of early in that push and its LA office is still pretty ancillary to Chicago/NYC; MoFo is similar but SF-based. Paul Hastings is a little bit more of a wildcard because it started in LA, but its NYC office is clearly its flagship. OMM just has more recognition as an LA firm in the market. That's not to say these others aren't respected, this is really more about the difference in perception. OMM does have its struggles, but at this point it seems more like a readjustment rather than something that should significantly deter you from the firm.

The real main difference between base location is work flow. Simply put, the base office location of a firm will be where the biggest / most important deals will flow through and where most of the work will be handled. This is kind of a hard thing to sort through because you're so early in your legal career and basically nothing you do for several years will likely be on anything of significance. But when you're looking at Vault rankings and the perceived "prestige" of a particular firm and where you want to go with your career, you should know that a big part of what makes working at a particular firm "prestigious" or respectable is the actual work itself and that can be client-dependent. If you're thinking about future options and what you get out of a firm, what you've gotta think about is that the firm name will help get you where you want to go, but what the bulk of your future options will depend on is the actual work that you've done.

A place like Sidley is respected because it does big work for clients that are Chicago giants; that's not to say you won't do significant work in LA, hell, you might handle workflow out of Chicago - but it's likely going to be more ancillary and addressing a smaller part of that the Chicago office is handling directly. So Sidley LA, while still carrying the name, does not get as much bang for your buck as Sidley Chicago would. Of course that's a bit of a catch 22, because on the one hand you might have an opportunity to work for more clients on different matters if you're at a Sidley/MoFo/PH because you're working for a firm that has strong offices in other cities, but on the other hand that might come at the cost of less significant work. With OMM, you know the clients will predominantly be CA-based and you'll have an opportunity to get involved with the biggest deals the firm will do with a particular client a bit easier.

There's obviously exceptions to the above, each of these might be the primary office on a particular client or a particular deal, but as a general rule that's how it goes.

[Anonymous User]

Really appreciate this feedback. Thanks

[easterbunny]

Ding from K&L Gates OC Office today.

Any news from Reed Smith (LA) and Sheppard Mullin (CC/LA/OC)? I noticed that the updated list have Sheppard Mullin under CBs and dings. If you got either one, mind sharing when did you get the CB/ding and for which office?

Thanks!

Was the ding from K&L Gates OC via snail mail or e-mail? Was this after a CB? Thanks!

[PvblivsScipio]

Really appreciate this feedback. Thanks

Except it's terrible advice. OMM has been doing terribly and tons of associates and partners are jumping ship. If you have other options I'd avoid it. Any "prestige" is bogus.

[Anonymous User]

Really appreciate this feedback. Thanks

Except it's terrible advice. OMM has been doing terribly and tons of associates and partners are jumping ship. If you have other options I'd avoid it. Any "prestige" is bogus.

Alright, guess I'm not too surprised by this difference in opinion. I've heard extremely mixed sentiments on both sides. Although some wouldn't classify PH, MoFo, Sidley as being the same "tier" as OMM (whatever that means...), would you advise taking one of those options over OMM?

[Anonymous User]

Also, regarding Sidley's work coming from Chicago, I'd ask an associate or two about that. I worked at an LA firm based in another city, and the LA office had mostly home-grown work.

I'd agree with staying away from OMM right now with other options. They'll probably be fine, and they're a really great firm, but you want to be careful.

Honestly, all those firms are on the same tier. Choose based on what firm you liked the best. You're going to be spending a lot of your life in the office at any of the firms you listed. You really want to like that time as much as possible.

[PvblivsScipio]

Also, regarding Sidley's work coming from Chicago, I'd ask an associate or two about that. I worked at an LA firm based in another city, and the LA office had mostly home-grown work.

I'd agree with staying away from OMM right now with other options. They'll probably be fine, and they're a really great firm, but you want to be careful.

Honestly, all those firms are on the same tier. Choose based on what firm you liked the best. You're going to be spending a lot of your life in the office at any of the firms you listed. You really want to like that time as much as possible.

+1. Also, I worked at an LA office of a NYC based firm. Juniors were sometimes pulled in on NY work (though it seemed to be more true for Lit), but in general the LA partners were sourcing and running the work. No idea what that poster is talking about as far as work being ancillary to NY or Chicago deals.

[Anonymous User]

Akin Gump offer

Cb 8/25

[Anonymous User]

OP Anon - new updated list on first page from this thread and info I've gathered from school

[Anonymous User]

No word of any Paul Hastings offers? See that there's dings but no word of an offer.

[Anonymous User]

No word of any Paul Hastings offers? See that there's dings but no word of an offer.

Someone from my school got a Paul Hastings offer on Tuesday, I believe.

[Anonymous User]

Well, shit. Any idea when the CB was?

[Anonymous User]

Well, shit. Any idea when the CB was?

Sorry, I don't know. My guess would be a little under 2 weeks ago.