Duke Law OCI 2015 (C/O 2017) Forum

[Anonymous User]

The acceptance letter from my exclusive journal literally said as much. I guess it's just more opportunities for publication?

[Anonymous User]

Is it acceptable to use your casenote as your writing sample? I'm really hesitant to use my appellate brief b/c it was below median, and my employer isn't allowing me to submit work product.

[Anonymous User]

Is it acceptable to use your casenote as your writing sample? I'm really hesitant to use my appellate brief b/c it was below median, and my employer isn't allowing me to submit work product.

Also curious about writing samples; I have a number of non-standard documents that I've produced this summer and am curious what some might think would make for a good writing sample. For example, a memo that analyzes one statute without really any case law, or a memo that outlines possible claims a client has against a particular party that also is light on case law.

[Anonymous User]

Also a rising 2L, so I have no real insight. But, isn't the TLS wisdom that employers hardly look at the writing sample anyways? In which case, I would think that an edited LARW appellate brief for which we were coached through the structure, etc. would come off as a better sample upon a quick skim regardless of where it fell on the rather tight LARW curve.

[Anonymous User]

Also a rising 2L, so I have no real insight. But, isn't the TLS wisdom that employers hardly look at the writing sample anyways? In which case, I would think that an edited LARW appellate brief for which we were coached through the structure, etc. would come off as a better sample upon a quick skim regardless of where it fell on the rather tight LARW curve.

My thinking exactly. I feel like CSO put a lot of emphasis on getting a writing sample from your summer employer, but with work product concerns + the fact that, as stated above, our appellate brief was reviewed and edited, I think that's the move.

[Anonymous User]

This might be somewhat silly/off topic, but people put journals on their resume even if they haven't actually started working on it right?

[Anonymous User]

This might be somewhat silly/off topic, but people put journals on their resume even if they haven't actually started working on it right?

Yes, obviously.

[Anonymous User]

This might be somewhat silly/off topic, but people put journals on their resume even if they haven't actually started working on it right?

My career counselor just told me to put my journal under "Honors" since it's an exclusive. It sounds weird since it's non-DLJ, but I do what I'm told.

[Anonymous User]

Seems pretty odd to me. I put mine under activities.

[Anonymous User]

Seems pretty odd to me. I put mine under activities.

How do I become a career counselor at a law school? That job seems cushy af. Don't have to do anything except give speculative, bad advice.

[Anonymous User]

When I came into law school I thought it was weird that so many JDs ended up working in the law school back-end. And then I realized: it's actually the dream.

[Anonymous User]

Anonymous User wrote:
This might be somewhat silly/off topic, but people put journals on their resume even if they haven't actually started working on it right?


My career counselor just told me to put my journal under "Honors" since it's an exclusive. It sounds weird since it's non-DLJ, but I do what I'm told.

Even for DLJ, I don't think it should go under "Honors." Yes, it is an honor, but its an honor only in as much as prestige/exclusivity is derived from participating in the activity. Regardless of journal, I think they all should go under "Activities" because that's what they are. CS don't know shiiit.

[Anonymous User]

Even for DLJ, I don't think it should go under "Honors." Yes, it is an honor, but its an honor only in as much as prestige/exclusivity is derived from participating in the activity. Regardless of journal, I think they all should go under "Activities" because that's what they are. CS don't know shiiit.

I'm putting mine under Honors. I want it as close to the top of the resume as possible. Highlight whatever you can that helps you out. In my case, don't look at my GPA! Can I interest you in DLJ instead?

[Anonymous User]

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[Serett]

Bump from obscurity. In case any of you are chilling around, if any Duke 3Ls or beyond feel like anonymously posting their bid lists and hits/misses from past years, I'm sure we'd all love you for it. The previous years' topics are pretty light on this sort of data, but it's among the most useful information as we finalize bid lists.

[PrideandGlory1776]

Bump from obscurity. In case any of you are chilling around, if any Duke 3Ls or beyond feel like anonymously posting their bid lists and hits/misses from past years, I'm sure we'd all love you for it. The previous years' topics are pretty light on this sort of data, but it's among the most useful information as we finalize bid lists.

Bump. This would be great.

[Anonymous User]

When will we know which interviews we landed from bidding?

[Serett]

When will we know which interviews we landed from bidding?

The OCI page in Symplicity lists important dates that imply approximately when we'll know:

Important Dates
Bidding Jul 20, 12:00 pm to Jul 27, 12:00 pm
Class Schedules/Conflicts Review May 29, 12:00 pm to Jul 27, 12:00 pm
Waitlist Review Jul 29, 12:00 pm to Jul 31, 12:00 pm
Cancellations Jul 29, 12:00 pm to Jul 31, 12:00 pm
Resume Review Jul 29, 12:00 pm to Jul 31, 12:00 pm
Open Sign-Up Aug 01, 12:00 pm to Aug 02, 12:00 pm

So between July 27 and July 29 at noon, I would think, or in any case, before August 1.

[PrideandGlory1776]

In a related question, what happens during the waitlist review period? I'm assuming this means we can sign up for interviews for which we are waitlisted in the first period and then sign up for any remaining open interviews for which we were not initially waitlisted in the period that follows. Just wanted to double check that this is accurate.

Also would appreciate a bid list review and/or swap from anyone so inclined, feel free to PM me. Thanks!

[Anonymous User]

3.3 with 3 years WE, exclusive non dlj journal, no moot court mock trial etc

Schulte Roth (NYC) Interview + Callback
Paul Hastings (NYC) Interview
Freshfields (NYC) Interview
Linklaters (NYC) Interview
Hogan Lovells (NYC) Interview + callback
White & Case (MIA) Interview
Morgan Lewis (NYC) Interview
Proskauer(NYC) No interview
K&L Gates (NYC) Interview
Curtis Mallet-Provost No interview
Seward & Kissel Interview + callback
Bracewell Giuliani (NYC) Interview
Lowenstein Sandler (NYC) Interview+callback
Cahill Gordon (NYC) No interview
McDermott Will Emory(NYC) Interview + Callback
Allen & Overy (NYC) No interview but picked one up during oci
Shearman Sterling(NYC) interview
Orrick Herrington(NYC) no interview
Jones Day(NYC) no interview
Stroock Stroock interview + callback
Clifford Chance No interview
Ropes Gray no interview
Weil(NYC) interview
Baker Botts no interview
Baker & Hostetler (NYC) no interview but picked one up during oci
Holland & Knight no interview
Hunton Williams no interview
Davis Polk no interview
Cadwalader (NYC) no interview
Milbank (NYC) no interview

[Serett]

Thanks, on behalf of all of us!

[Anonymous User]

does anyone know how far down Wilkie dips for callbacks?

[Anonymous User]

Sub 3.3, no journal, no moot, nothing else. 1-2 years WE

Callbacks at Seward, Fried Frank, Winston, Schulte. All NY.

[Anonymous User]

Posting my bidlist from last year. Hope it helps. The office of the firm is New York unless it says otherwise.

Stats: 3.6 / Non-DLJ exclusive journal / No moot court / 2 years WE

1 Proskauer Rose - Interview
2 Cahill, Gordon & Reindel - Interview + callback
3 Debevoise & Plimpton - Interview
4 Gibson, Dunn, & Crutcher - Interview + callback
5 Simpson, Thacher, & Bartlett - Interview
6 Cleary Gottlieb - Interview + callback
7 Paul Weiss - Interview
8 Morgan Lewis - No interview (I missed this by one spot - it went at 7 )
9 Davis Polk & Wardwell - Interview
10 Sidley Austin - Interview + callback
11 WilmerHale - Interview
12 Weil, Gotshal & Manges - Interview + callback
13 Kirkland & Ellis - Interview + callback
14 Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP - Interview + callback
15 Milbank Tweed - Interview + callback
16 Allen & Overy - No Interview. but picked one up at the Hospitality Suite and they mistakenly set me up with A&O DC - Awkward.
17 Drinker, Biddle, & Reath (PHL) - No interview
18 O'Melveny & Myers - Interview
19 Ballard Spahr (PHL) - No interview through OCI, but got one through email + callback
21 Hogan Lovells - Interview + callback (Someone dropped this interview and either I was next in line or they chose me from the waitlist)
22 Cadwalader - Interview
23 White & Case - No interview
24 Paul Hastings - No interview
25 Jones Day - No interview
26 Dechert - No interview
27 Morrison & Foerster LLP - No interview
28 Bracewell & Giuliani - No interview
29 Latham & Watkins - No interview through bidding, but got one through email + callback
30 Skadden - No interview

[Serett]

You guys rock, thanks.